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I suggest it doesn't even spread through faeces (feces for those of us in US)

Polio was NEVER proven to be caused by a virus and never proven to be infectious. It has the same symptoms as toxic poisoning.

As Soroush has said......no doctor or nurse ever got it from a patient. No family member ever got it from another family member. So there is much question about the whole vaccine thing - how could it ever work at all, when this is poisoning.

And after the vaccine started, they manipulated the numbers and criteria of what could be called polio and it made it look like the vaccine caused the decline.

Also DDT use started to decline and then polio cases declined. Read more here http://www.wellwithin1.com/PolioWest.htm NO vaccine gives immunity anyway

What is something labeled 'poliomyelitis' ? Neurological injury from DDT and possibly other pesticides
worse because of immune impairment due to vaccines (often would get paralyzed in an arm that had just gotten DPT - gave in arms back then), diagnosis after tonsillectomy (tonsils part of the immune system), worse in summer with sugar intact (immune system suppression again) and caught it in pools (heavily sprayed with DDT due to fear of polio).

The only case my mom, born in 1925 and an RN graduating in 1948, knew personally was a girl who "came down with it" after going the fair.........of course fairgrounds would have been sprayed with DDT. My mom saw them as a nurse, and worked in polio wards (and never wore masks or protective garments) but I am talking about personally when she was growing up.
I was born in 1950 and NEVER knew one.

Sheri
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I have answered this many times. Sorry you aren't able to think outside the box on viruses and bacteria

We don't know the truth about the supposed cases passed via diapers. It certainly would behoove a vaccine maker to go along with that to re-enforce their lie of viruses causing polio, even as far as to 'admit' that. Go back and find the proof of all of that. And how many of the 'diaper thing' have their been, Shannon.

Actually with polio, they say the improvement in water quality contributed to the increase in polio.......................because people weren't being exposed all the time to so-called virus, after chlorine added to water, it made them more susceptible to more serious injury

I encourage you to read the info on the page, as I have many times before, instead of trying to prove me wrong. It is your choice what you believe.
Sheri

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I don't think that I have said NO microbe ever causes any illness. When bacteria do their jobs and clean up messes they produce toxins that can make us sick if not in optimum health. It really isn't the bacteria making us sick, but the results of them doing their job. And if in a very depleted state, that is a disaster.
I suggest you focus (and most people focus) too much on being attacked from outside.....................and that is what sells drugs and vaccines.
And I cannot go back in time and see what happened with invaders. These things are not carried on our clothes. A husband can't bring something home to his family from working with measles that day. Sometimes this is just a story..................

And what kills them? Their depleted state? Bring this into the now.

Sheri

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I don't know, pure and simple. I use the miasms as they are without worrying about where they started from. That is not important.
He also was a product of his time when it comes to disease and bacteria and fear of them. So little was even known about 'them' at that time.
Later people explain as pleomorphism which really didn't serve the purposes of the drug companies so Pasteur won out.

I just don't fear bacteria and so-called viruses - we will NOT know the truth about viruses ever, possibly, as they have been co-opted and blamed for so much, to sell drugs and vaccines. What if they are messengers between the cells doing a job..............................(now foreign viruses injected in, and not produced by the body in its wisdom to do a specific job, may be a different story - not there as messengers but foreign). I don't have all the answers but know that we have not been told the truth about most of it.
Sheri

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Hi Sheri,
Without debating the "it's a virus, it's not a virus", for me the argument that doctors, family members etc didn't get polio doesn't hold. I know someone else has posted on this, but I'll say it again. The virus causes flu like symptoms. Only some (susceptible) people get paralysis.

Personally I believe it is a virus, but I am no virologist.

Regards,
Paul
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Hi Sheri,

But in your example, the bacteria cause toxins and those make us ill.

Yes, there is a process in play, but it is the organism that causes the ailment and the toxins are the mechanism. You cannot divorce the two.

I am not sure how bacteria clean up messes. They grow where susceptibility allows. They don't improve health by cleaning up anything.

Regards,
Paul
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Then you need to explain away those cases where it appeared that the disease spread from (the only examples I have recently heard of) a recently vaccinated child. Googling brings up various things to explore, but two references from opposite ends of the spectrum:

E.g. http://www.vaccineriskawareness.com/Vaccine-Shedding

http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/diseases/immpol.shtml

So far as I can tell, you are simply arguing dogma, with no effort to refute any apparent evidence. I don't understand *why* you (and the people you quote) are so invested in some of these ideas.

There's some rather tortured logic here, so far as I see, and it seems that accuracy is being scarified to semantics. But -- can you explain why we be a more useful perspective?

Hi Sheri

Then again, as l usually do when its something I haven't looked at, I do take a look. There does seem to be some evidence concerning poisons etc. So I'll study this a bit more.
Regards,
Paul
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all I can say is dig deeper and try to let go of the programming of viruses and bacteria that has been imposed upon us.

It is not useful to me anymore.

Start with the polio issue if you want.....................................I can't tell you all the steps to take that I have taken in the last 34 years to get where I am now.

Pleomorphism
Polio never proven to be cause by a virus
and on and on.
Sheri

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