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Hello All,
Can someone tell me if they’ve had any success treating a (2yr.old young) cat with Oral Squamous Cell Carcinoma? I’d really like to streamline remedies she’s receiving now.
I’d appreciate any input please.
Thank you,
Aileen
Rev. Aileen W. Donovan CHt. RM/T

www.aileendonovan.com

Hi, that is young to have cancer, but it happens that cancer is now the leading cause of death in cats these days, and has been tha way ever since the "no grain" fad started and peopl eused MORE toxic foods with herbs, fruit and vegetables in them. The previous leadig cause of death - kidney failure from plant protein in foods is now second.
(I do not know what caused the problem here.)

Your question asks for an allopathic approach. In homeopathy it is not the name of the illness that counts, but the homeopath's experience with chronic immune compromise diseases, and understanding of feline metabolism and immune system. Homeopathy does not treat a specific cancer, it heals the immune system so that the cat can do that.

It helps to also use suitable nutrients and supplements appropriate to feline carnivores, as the matched SINGLE main remedy for this can not supply ANY of the needed building blocks for healing. (Only one main remedy is appropriate, and it works like instructios to the system on how to heal - but needs the healing equipment to also be supplied - though there may be local remedies needed as well depending on the situation.)
It is important for every remedy to be used for the right reasons.

So I feel you need to choose your homeopath based on these kinds of factors and not on whether they had previous specific-diseease experience. No specific disease is addressed by a remedy. That is what I meant by "allopathic" approach; allopathy aims at opposing a specific disease. Homeopathy works by healing the immune system and cell strength of the body to make it resistant to attack and to enable the restored immune system to perform its function - the one that was missing/damaged to allow the disease in the first place.

That is how I see it in any immune compromise disease and is how I work when I am helping an owner to treat their own cat.
I hope these ideas help your search.

Namaste,
Irene

--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

HI Irene, et al,
Thank you for responding Irene! Sorry I am on digest and didn’t receive your response till this morning. Below is the ‘non-allopathic’ way of describing Jamocha’s issue Hope someone has some ideas that would help us.
Jamocha, is a Torti-shell, feral female that was born on my farm two summers ago. I feed and care (as best I can) for a clowder of about 35-50 (numbers always go higher in summer, then balance out to our core group, around 35 again as there is a forest next to us and the cats, being feral, come and go as they please with the friendlier ones sticking around all year round.)
They live in the barns and outbuildings we’ve set up for them. Over the years, we’ve brought a few of them inside the house. Blind, deaf, blind and deaf, ‘mentally challenged’ etc…Jamocha came inside, when around 8 weeks old, she literally came up on my doorstep bawling for food. She’d developed an ‘upper respiratory’ and couldn’t smell the food we put out for the others to eat. There was something about her, from all the others that really stood out to me and grabbed my heart so in she came! J
She got better. But has always had a ‘snotty nose’…Her eyes are (and have always been) clear, gorgeous, and look right into your soul.
Last fall, we took her in to the low cost clinic to be spayed. Well, they wanted to put her down right away! Saying she ‘probably’ had Leukemia! Jamocha was still presenting with ‘snotty nose’ and now, there was a rim of ‘red’ around her gums. The vet refused the low-cost surgery. She sold me a product called, ‘Onisor’ and said if she gets better to bring her back to be spayed. It just made matters initially better, then immediately upon stopping, much worse. I gave her ‘Aconite 30ch’ and things appeared better for a while (as I went through a crisis with one of my other cats, and then a crisis with my stage 4 multiple myeloma Mother who I also care for here at the farm)
Last February, I was able to bring Jamocha into a ‘regular’ vet’s office, for the ‘gum’ issue and the fact it was getting difficult for her to eat her raw diet. They tested her. No leukemia, but rather ‘calici virus’. Red blood cell very low, white blood cell, very high…They offered anti-biotic’s, I said no, as I knew it was a viscous cycle that would never end…After that visit, her mouth veritably exploded into much redder gums, that then began to swell, copious green mucousy drool.…Now presenting as a Stomatitis! They charged me $600.00 (which I had to borrow) and wanted $3,000 to pull all her teeth out! I have been trying MMS to flush her mouth (as the ‘anti-biotic) which I think has helped a bit, but she hates it so much it’s extremely difficult to give. But it does help lessen the copious, ‘green mucousy drool’ if I can get enough into her.
Red, swollen gums, cold-sore type sores at the sides of mouth, I tried a few different remedies from a homeopathic vet book for the issues presenting. Merc Sol…Nat Mur(was told Nat Mur was ‘most cats’ Constitutional remedy)…Pulsatilla…Baryta Carb…. I’d dose her if it got worse, stop when it got better…(I put a pillule into a water bottle and would shake the bottle between doses to ‘succuss’ then dose about a tsp. in a needle-less syringe. Again the Aconite 30ch helped for a while…Eventually, that stopped working and I didn’t know where to go from there.
Finally I ‘opened’ up to a multi-remedy called, ‘Dr. Barbara Hendels Periodontal Gum Disease Relief’(Borax 8x,calc phos12x,Kreosotum 6x, merc sol 12x, silicea 12x)….There was very little success…I was/am very overwhelmed with all my charges at the farm, but right now, especially this darling Jamocha as I’ve never seen anything like it…
Now I noticed a red ‘bump’ growing under her tongue on the right side, but at first, it was hard to distinguish as the whole mouth is red and swollen…
Finally, (money always tight when you care for so many on the farm) I was able to hire a homeopath (on email) in June to help me. She was ‘clinical’ as it turned out…She was extremely difficult to work with, ignoring my questions, barely gave me the time of day, wanting to just sell me a bunch of remedies that ‘may/may not’ get here (I’m in Canada/she was in the States) Anyway by middle of July (about a month ago now) she gave me this list as a parting ‘gift’(her mind being on an upcoming trial) to give Jamocha, which I did, as I am frantic at this point…But I know it cannot possibly be right for her! (for anyone to take so many remedies!)
Prostaglandin: 30ch

Merc Viv: 30ch

Rhus Tox: 12 ch

Plantago Major 9ch

Calc Phos: 30ch

Pulsatilla 9ch

Pau D’ arco: 6ch
Dr. Reckeweg: BC 18

Which has:
Calc Fluorica 3x

Calc Sulphurica 3x

Silicea: 6x
Dr. Reckeweg: R1

Which has:
Apis D4

Barium chloratum D6

Belladonna: D4

Calcium Iodatum D4

Hepar Sulph D12

Kali Bich: D4

Lachesis: D12

Marum Verum: D6

Merc Sublimatus corrosivus: D6

Phytolacca D4
All this tossed into a bottle of water, (succussed between doses)and dosed twice per day….I did this for 3 weeks. Then stopped it, when it just seemed ludicrous to continue and the red ‘bump’ has grown exponentially making it almost impossible for her to eat anything at all. From my internet research, and from the photo’s I’ve seen, it’s named, Oral Squamous Cell Carcinoma. (sorry Irene but it does give a ‘picture’ to it) The allopathic vet’s treatment is: Surgery/chemo/radiation/death….(and about $5,000.00) Not an option…
She can still swallow...So far has maintained her adult weight of 7 pounds. I ‘form’ into a ‘soft wall’ raw ground turkey or chicken which seems ‘softest’ for her to swallow, poking it up to a point so she can lower her mouth and take some food in swallow and I repeat. I give her some vitamins that I liquefy and syringe into her mouth. I started her on (basically) Essiac Tea. (a product called ‘Life Gold’ from Pet Wellbeing) and ‘Vibactra’ from Amber Technology.
I don’t have a lot of money, but I really want to help Jamocha live. She still has a strong ‘vital’ force that wants to stay, despite the pain and suffering she’s been through. I would highly appreciate any help.
The only thing that seemed to help her at all, was the Aconite 30ch…but only for a while…
Thank you to anyone still reading if you are, honestly, thank you from my heart.
Aileen
Re: Oral Squamous Cell Carcinoma in a Cat
Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:29 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Irene de Villiers" furryboots_usa
Hi, that is young to have cancer, but it happens that cancer is now the leading cause of death in cats these days, and has been tha way ever since the "no grain" fad started and peopl eused MORE toxic foods with herbs, fruit and vegetables in them. The previous leadig cause of death - kidney failure from plant protein in foods is now second.
(I do not know what caused the problem here.)

Your question asks for an allopathic approach. In homeopathy it is not the name of the illness that counts, but the homeopath's experience with chronic immune compromise diseases, and understanding of feline metabolism and immune system. Homeopathy does not treat a specific cancer, it heals the immune system so that the cat can do that.

It helps to also use suitable nutrients and supplements appropriate to feline carnivores, as the matched SINGLE main remedy for this can not supply ANY of the needed building blocks for healing. (Only one main remedy is appropriate, and it works like instructios to the system on how to heal - but needs the healing equipment to also be supplied - though there may be local remedies needed as well depending on the situation.)
It is important for every remedy to be used for the right reasons.

So I feel you need to choose your homeopath based on these kinds of factors and not on whether they had previous specific-diseease experience. No specific disease is addressed by a remedy. That is what I meant by "allopathic" approach; allopathy aims at opposing a specific disease. Homeopathy works by healing the immune system and cell strength of the body to make it resistant to attack and to enable the restored immune system to perform its function - the one that was missing/damaged to allow the disease in the first place.

That is how I see it in any immune compromise disease and is how I work when I am helping an owner to treat their own cat.
I hope these ideas help your search.

Namaste,
Irene

--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

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Dear AIleen,
I shall write more when I can, Fri has comitments all day.

First I suggest you stop all the toxic items for cats as they can only make things much worse.
So please... NO herbs (essiac tea is total poison to cats), and no fruit or vegetable foods either. No plant protein and no plant fat.

Feed high animal protein, and animal fat, it will be better cooked than raw, unless you can get fresh-slaughtered food and feed it in 20 mins after slaughter..
ALL stored food, frozen food, shipped food, etc has bacterial toxins on it that harm the cat.
Cooked meat has the same nuitrients as raw meat, but the cooked is wihout the toxins.
It will be kinder to the sore mouth to feed cooked here.

Suggest you Add:
Vit E 200 IU per day
1000 mg fish oil from a capsule per day
500 to 100 mg taurine
Ascorbic acid well mixed with glucose or dextrose to taste good, then mixed into food. Be sure to dissolve it first so it will not burn the sore area. Start with 250 mg a day.
Moducare 1 capsule a day to help thymus.

She also needs half a teap each of rice bran and plain cooked pumpkin daily to feed beneficial gut bacteria for a myriad of functions in cats.
A good commercial food is canned PurrfectDinner by Cornucopiapetfoods.com
It has a soft texture she will likely manage. (I was instrumental in getting it developed, I get nothing in return, so the recommendation is genuine. Put my first name in the "recommended by" section in order not to get a bunch of sales pitch for the other products that are toxic)

Squamous cell carcinoma needs diagnosis by a vet pathologist who will look at it under a microscope. The actual diagnosis is not esential for selecting a MATCHED (single) homeopathic remedy.

Stop all the non-carnivore stuff.
You can not use human or vegetarian etc ideas with cats.

Stomatitis is severe and life threatening mouth infection in cats which often leads to cancer, and which is based on a prior chronic suppressed disease - and here that looks to be Calici virus, which is quite a typical precursor of stomatitis.

Having the orange gene (makes the orangey part of a tortie) means she is very susceptible to toxins (like herb teas) which will make it hard for her liver to cope. You need it to be healthier. Do not use toxins on her.

I would not use Onisor. Vit E, fish oil etc above will do better and Onisor would block them.
You can also make a mouthwash with hypericum and calendula in 1 cup water water, (30C or preferably 200C) to soothe her mouth after each meal. Squirt in a ml or two. (Hypericum for pain and calendula against infection.)

(WHat is MMS? I hope not one of those metal silver things - poison to her if so?)
I would skip any drugs or other products wihout a known safe effect to help.
DO not use a whole mixture of remedies as you were advised.

Pet-tinic is the supplement to use to provide iron,copper and vits to absorb them, to help the anemia.

You still need a MAIN REMEDY matched to her - requires a consult to determine. But this is the ONE main remedy needed to restore her immune system and ability to resist disease.

I hope this helps meantime.
Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: Oral Squamous Cell Carcinoma in a Cat
Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:16 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Irene de Villiers" furryboots_usa
Dear AIleen, HI Irene,
I shall write more when I can, Fri has comitments all day.
Thank you so much for your input here. I’m booked today(Sat) but will respond if you do again, as soon as I can.
First I suggest you stop all the toxic items for cats as they can only make things much worse.
So please... NO herbs (essiac tea is total poison to cats), and no fruit or vegetable foods either. No plant protein and no plant fat.

Feed high animal protein, and animal fat, it will be better cooked than raw, unless you can get fresh-slaughtered food and feed it in 20 mins after slaughter..
ALL stored food, frozen food, shipped food, etc has bacterial toxins on it that harm the cat.
Cooked meat has the same nuitrients as raw meat, but the cooked is wihout the toxins.
It will be kinder to the sore mouth to feed cooked here.

Suggest you Add:
Vit E 200 IU per day
1000 mg fish oil from a capsule per day
500 to 100 mg taurine
Ascorbic acid well mixed with glucose or dextrose to taste good, then mixed into food. Be sure to dissolve it first so it will not burn the sore area. Start with 250 mg a day.
Moducare 1 capsule a day to help thymus.

She also needs half a teap each of rice bran and plain cooked pumpkin daily to feed beneficial gut bacteria for a myriad of functions in cats.
A good commercial food is canned PurrfectDinner by Cornucopiapetfoods.com
It has a soft texture she will likely manage. (I was instrumental in getting it developed, I get nothing in return, so the recommendation is genuine. Put my first name in the "recommended by" section in order not to get a bunch of sales pitch for the other products that are toxic)

Squamous cell carcinoma needs diagnosis by a vet pathologist who will look at it under a microscope. The actual diagnosis is not esential for selecting a MATCHED (single) homeopathic remedy.
Yes, I hope to find a matched single homeopathic remedy. She will not be getting a biopsy in any case.
Stop all the non-carnivore stuff.
You can not use human or vegetarian etc ideas with cats.
While I’ve been a vegetarian for over 35 years, I’d never force my animals to eat as I do.

But we do feed a species appropriate, raw diet and since we started feeding raw 20 years ago, all our animals have flourished. For the past 51 years I’ve done every diet under the sun for them to get to that conclusion, but now, I’ll never change back. Though I do keep a box of canned wet cat food for the outside ferals if one goes off eating, as that food is so stinky, it usually jump starts them again nicely. I actually do offer a can to Jamocha whenever she is slow to eat. She won’t touch the stuff…no matter what ingredients, flavour, company etc…All my inside animals refuse ‘commercial’ food. The outside ferals will eat some when they can’t smell the raw meat we give them.
Stomatitis is severe and life threatening mouth infection in cats which often leads to cancer, and which is based on a prior chronic suppressed disease - and here that looks to be Calici virus, which is quite a typical precursor of stomatitis.
Yes, I’ve come to learn that.

Having the orange gene (makes the orangey part of a tortie) means she is very susceptible to toxins (like herb teas) which will make it hard for her liver to cope. You need it to be healthier. Do not use toxins on her.

I would not use Onisor. Vit E, fish oil etc above will do better and Onisor would block them.
The Onisor was a six day treatment a year ago which I still regret giving her…I’d never give it again…Jamocha receives 500mg of fish oil per day do you think I should double that? I have taurine on hand, but didn’t think to give it to her as she receives it in the raw meat. Mind you, she’s not eating a lot now…a few bites at every seating, 3 times per day.
You can also make a mouthwash with hypericum and calendula in 1 cup water water, (30C or preferably 200C) to soothe her mouth after each meal. Squirt in a ml or two. (Hypericum for pain and calendula against infection.)
Thank you, great idea! What is the general consensus about how long a remedy is good for in a bottle of water? Some say keep in fridge, others say don’t…I’ve heard it’s good for ‘two weeks’ outside the fridge before some ‘fungusy’ thing may happen…What is your consensus on this?

(WHat is MMS? I hope not one of those metal silver things - poison to her if so?)
Lol…I know you don’t like Colloidal silver, but it has saved literally, hundreds of animals on my farm over the years…Especially saving ulcerated eye-balls, when used as an eye wash….But no, Jamocha is not receiving it for this. But we do always keep a fresh bowl of it next to the water dish/fountains and the animals can choose what they want to drink from anytime.
MMS is Sodium Chloride. Water purification drops, the government uses it all the time…people use it for various reasons…Then someone had the brilliant idea to use it for pathogens in the body…It’s done a lot of good here at the farm for us…and It has saved millions of people and animals from a lot of different pathogens around the world, most noteworthy its work on people with malaria. The problem with treating cats with it, is you (well, me anyway) can’t seem to get enough of the stuff inside of them. AND it has a horrible taste. (Dogs are SO easy treat)….Cats less so, unless you can treat them homeopathically, which I hope to do here.
I would skip any drugs or other products wihout a known safe effect to help.
DO not use a whole mixture of remedies as you were advised.
I agree 100%!!!

Pet-tinic is the supplement to use to provide iron,copper and vits to absorb them, to help the anemia.
Strange, I’ve never heard of this. Thank you so much for bringing it up! Where can it be purchased?
You still need a MAIN REMEDY matched to her - requires a consult to determine. But this is the ONE main remedy needed to restore her immune system and ability to resist disease.
Exactly! That’s what I need…

I hope this helps meantime.
It does, and I highly appreciate you taking the time to input and share your knowledge here, I really am grateful Irene. Thank you! Aileen.
Namaste,
Irene