Minutus

i have just read that a homeopath who has been using homeopathy for years, needed hip replacement surgery , but shouldn't homeopathy have prevented such an issue.
doesn't it prevent future disease and strengthen the body.....so this should not have happened right...
I also remember one of my own past homeopaths who has taken remedies since little, had some miscarriages but why would that happen if you've grown on remedies.......

This is a really good question and the type of feedback quack busters use to try and debunk homeopathy.
Many issues, like a deteriorating hip, may be due to inherited issues, called miasms which are part of genetics.
Proper homeopathic treatment of possible future health issues requires a knowledge to identify which miasms one may have based on family history, current health evaluation, symptoms, then provide homeopathic remedies and nosodes that are anti-miasmatic which include anti-psoric, anti-sycotic, anti-syphilitic and anti-tubercular and more recently anti-cancer.
Hip, knee and similar deterioration when older may be due to having the syphilitic miasm, known to cause more destruction of tissues and also can be seen in some personalities who have destructive aka syphilitic behavior.
Learning and properly implementing homeopathic miasmatic prescribing takes time and is an acquired knowledge as homeopaths progress through their careers and treat patients. Think of it as graduate study best done when one masters the basics.
Generally, initial homeopathy training focuses on what one observes and conditions that are here and now.
Miasmatic prescribing includes that but also the ability to discern what is not yet apparent but likely to occur.
Since the benefits are not immediately noticeable, and may never be truly known, and can take years
many homeopaths don't spend time focusing on it.
So, to avoid a hip replacement by homeopathy may have required years of prior knowledge and correct miasmtic nosode and remedies to prevent.
Not commonly or easily done.
The term latent psora is an example.
When one gets sick, like cold or flu, how severe and for how long and other conditions that can occur during and after, may suggest if one has the inherited psora miasm and portend how severe it may play out when aging.
Additionally, proper homeopathic treatment overall strengthens on various levels, physical, emotional, etc.
Some constitutional remedies may also be anti-miasmatic ones which should help even more
Susan

thanks makes sense

I asked a question like this a few months ago and got slammed for doing so.

Roger Bird
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Subject: [Minutus] random question
i have just read that a homeopath who has been using homeopathy for years, needed hip replacement surgery , but shouldn't homeopathy have prevented such an issue.
doesn't it prevent future disease and strengthen the body.....so this should not have happened right...
I also remember one of my own past homeopaths who has taken remedies since little, had some miscarriages but why would that happen if you've grown on remedies.......

hmm slammed but why, I ask many questions all the time...
I by no means feel homeopathy does not work because I have seen it work but I don't understand what all it can cure and how deep and so on, that's why this situation made me wonder

This is a very good and interesting question.
We are the results of genetics and our inheritance.

We have inherited a lot of miasmatic influences (syphilis, gonorrhoea, tuberculosis, rabies, flu, etc ….) from previous generations and it cannot be expected that after a few years of homeopathy someone will be perfectly healthy. And even then, the perfectly healthy MUST die too.
I once posed a question to Sheilagh Creasy. I asked: Let us assume that we want to establish a colony on the Moon, but we want everybody there to be healthy. How many generations do you require? Her answer was about 10. Assuming each generation is about 20-25 years, you would require about 200 – 250 years to achieve a selected healthy group.
So sadly one life time won’t do it.
Rgds

Soroush
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I asked a question like this a few months ago and got slammed for doing so.

Roger Bird
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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 12:23:45 -0700
Subject: [Minutus] random question
i have just read that a homeopath who has been using homeopathy for years, needed hip replacement surgery , but shouldn't homeopathy have prevented such an issue.
doesn't it prevent future disease and strengthen the body.....so this should not have happened right...
I also remember one of my own past homeopaths who has taken remedies since little, had some miscarriages but why would that happen if you've grown on remedies.......

Because we are mortals.

Because there are many reasons for pathologies, they are not linear, but multi-factorial, some of them you can control, others you cannot and many you do not even know exist.

In your example of hip replacement, that homeopath might have been a tri-athlete also involved in rock climbing and martial arts; over the years, micro traumas combined to eventually lead to cartilage and bone destruction that, when picked up, was too advanced to be treated by non surgical methods.

Even people who have been living "homeopathically" since their conception are not immune to the stresses of life, their accumulation can lead to chronic disease.

And homeopathy, like every technique, has its limitations, even in the best of hands.

Joe.

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.

"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz

This has to do with "45 and a half" syndrome (as I call it):
My dad was brought up early 20th cent by his homeopath dad, who died of a burst appendix when his three sons were children.
Per my dad, that meant homeopathy was worse than snake oil, (as his dad failed to cure himself).
.....Some people add two and two and get 45 and a half.
Strange math for a finance manager:-)
Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Inherited (genetic) aspects and environmental aspects I suspect you meant?
Not that many!

Cats make a good model here. They are subject to drugs and vaccines and stresses and toxins unsuited to their species and also fed nutritional horrors for their species, all the time, so they are really a messed up species. So much so that currently ten percent of them die annually from ONE disease that never existed before man imposed its toxins on them. And that's not their leading cause of death either, top is cancer and second is kidney disease. Thjis is one messed up species - messed up by man's idiocy.
But it makes them a good candidate for finding out how many generations it takes to get healthy kittens born.

It's also much easier to answer the question when the generation time is much shorter than ours and one is permitted to manipulate the entire life of the individuals involved, to be healthy.

I have done this with my and my clients cats for several decades.
After three generations of cats kept healthy and/or made healthy, you can predict there will be healthy ones born as the fourth generation.
Definitely impossible. It shocks cat owners but that is how it is. There are too many inherited miasms and other inherited problems (DNA as opposed to epigene issues) that do not emerge in one generation to be handled all at once.

The three generations of damage potential, also applies to inherited defects in major genes (as opposed to acquired epigene switch position issues which align IMO with miasms).
You need to selectively breed away from defective genes (a potential ethics issue in humans but not in cats) and can breed out a recessive gene in three generations. Dominant genes breed out in one. (People who say recessives are for ever, are not looking at ALL the offspring and are looking only at one direct line. You must include all siblings and their offrsping to achieve zero of the recessive gene in the 4th generation after three controlled generations). This too I have proved in practice with breeding out nasty genes in cats, including recessive ones.
(Before homeopathy, most of my work was in cat genetics.)

So three generations will be affected unavoidably by what they inherit, however well you handle them. Not all will be affected but some will, less in each generation depending what was there, and what was allowed to emerge and be handled along the way. The first generation all are going to be ill however well their parents were handled.

As you say we all do die. The cats I bred of 4, 5 or 6th generation also died. With two exceptions who died from commercial catfood contamination, they all got older and had less life force, and got slower, and one day, just stopped, gently. No chronic disease.
EVERY vaccinated cat died of chronic disease or inherited defect. NO exceptions.
My current cat was heavily vaccinated before I got her. She has no chance to avoid the problems by homeopathy.

Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

i also read in one example that a lady had appendicitis and was given a remedy, the remedy the pain go away but the homeopath insisted she go to the doctor anyways and it turned out that her appendix did burst. Now I don't know if this is a true story or not but can homeopathy also do this, mask serious symptoms....and the person may think its gone but really its still there.........