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Medical Freedom: What Rights Are You Willing To Lose?

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:27 pm
by Sheri Nakken
Medical Freedom: What Rights Are You Willing To Lose?

http://fearlessparent.org/medical-freed ... g-to-lose/

Whether you're pro-vaccine, anti-vaccine, or fall somewhere in the middle, the questions you need to ask yourselves are as follows: Do you want to live in a world, where you cannot freely refuse a medical procedure that carries risk of injury or death?

I'm not questioning your comfort level with today's vaccine schedule, because today's vaccine schedule will change. New vaccines and additional doses are added all the time. Children today receive as many as 49 doses of 14 vaccines before they reach age six, which is roughly 12 times higher than the number of vaccines administered to children back in 1940.

With more than 220 new vaccines in the developmental pipeline for children and adults...and no end in sight..the question you must ask yourself is ARE YOU CERTAIN you will be 100% comfortable when 200 more vaccines are added to the mandated list in the future?
If you say that yes, you're comfortable, then you're either:

a) not expecting to be a parent or grandparent,
b) don't think about it much because your kids are grown and out of the house, or
c) lying to prove a point.

No critical thinker, no honest person, would ever sign off on the sight-unseen vaccine schedule of the future. And yet that's what you're doing when you condemn the people who are fighting for your right to refuse. YOU have the right to refuse, should you ever choose to use it, because the very "anti-vaccine" people you demonize have been fighting for us all.

Right now, the burden of "herd immunity" falls on small children, but that is changing. Vaccine manufacturers see an untapped market in adolescent and adult vaccine. They are coming for you next. What will you do if your state, your employer, or your insurance company forces you to get a vaccine that you simply don't want. It hasn't happened to you yet, but if the right to refuse is eroded, it will happen to you sooner than you might think. Who will you turn to? Your legislators who get campaign donations from pharmaceutical companies? The CDC that has former pharma executives sitting on the board? Who will you turn to if you ever want to say no?
What if it harms you, even kills you or your family member? There will be no recourse. No one to blame. You absorb all the medical bills. Deal with all the anger, all the guilt. Alone.

Once we enter the slippery slope of removing and individual's right to refuse medical procedures that carry a risk of injury or death, once we remove an individual's right to speak for him/herself and his/her children, we open ourselves up to an insidious new era, where other drugs and other procedures can be mandated.

I heard (on NPR, interestingly enough) that there are people who want to test for a gene marker that's been found in mass shooters in the hopes that they can put the carriers of that gene on medications in early childhood. Sounds great, right? But many of us carry genes that will never be expressed. You could be a carrier of that gene. Or your child could be a carrier.

So if we follow the "for the greater good" mentality behind vaccines (or the Nazi's "for the greater good" mentality behind eugenics - the breeding out illness. We are looking at forcing people who may never express a sociopathic gene to take antipsychotics, just in case.
Because that's what forced vaccination does. It asks children who may never come into contact with a particular virus to accept a vaccine, just in case. And that's what eugenics was all about. It sterilizes people who can pass on a genetic disease - just in case.

Forced vaccination is a human rights violation. To support it when you know that the government's own National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (NVICP) has paid nearly $3b to damaged persons. The government's Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) lists people who have died as a result of vaccines. Vaccination is unethical at best, sociopathic at worst.
What can we do?

1. The ethical thing to do is to allow people their right to refuse. Let doctors and big pharma - who has marketing budgets larger than the GDP of some countries - to do a better job of convincing parents that vaccines are safe, protective and harmless.

2. Reverse the law that grants vaccine manufacturers total immunity from vaccine injury lawsuits. You can't sue a vaccine manufacturer if your child is injured or killed by a vaccine, even in cases where a safer vaccine was available and not chosen.

Think about that. You can't sue the manufacturer. What other product has legal and government protection? The complete immunity from liability does more to shake a parents' confidence in vaccines than anything else. Be sure they know that with an adverse outcome from a vaccine, they are completely on their own."
Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com/ & http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/
ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood Diseases

Re: Medical Freedom: What Rights Are You Willing To Lose?

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:14 pm
by Rachel
yes, things are getting really alarming. here in PA, a state senator is introducing legislation to eliminate the philosophical exemption. i've heard that there is a move to get the major religious leaders on board with endorsing vaccination as well, so that people can no longer claim religious exemptions. i believe the pope has endorsed vaccinations. i'm starting a slow panic.

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From: "Sheri Nakken homeopathycuresyou@gmail.com [minutus]"
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Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 1:27 PM
Subject: [Minutus] Medical Freedom: What Rights Are You Willing To Lose?
Medical Freedom: What Rights Are You Willing To Lose?

http://fearlessparent.org/medical-freed ... g-to-lose/

Whether you're pro-vaccine, anti-vaccine, or fall somewhere in the middle, the questions you need to ask yourselves are as follows: Do you want to live in a world, where you cannot freely refuse a medical procedure that carries risk of injury or death?

I'm not questioning your comfort level with today's vaccine schedule, because today's vaccine schedule will change. New vaccines and additional doses are added all the time. Children today receive as many as 49 doses of 14 vaccines before they reach age six, which is roughly 12 times higher than the number of vaccines administered to children back in 1940.

With more than 220 new vaccines in the developmental pipeline for children and adults...and no end in sight..the question you must ask yourself is ARE YOU CERTAIN you will be 100% comfortable when 200 more vaccines are added to the mandated list in the future?
If you say that yes, you're comfortable, then you're either:

a) not expecting to be a parent or grandparent,
b) don't think about it much because your kids are grown and out of the house, or
c) lying to prove a point.

No critical thinker, no honest person, would ever sign off on the sight-unseen vaccine schedule of the future. And yet that's what you're doing when you condemn the people who are fighting for your right to refuse. YOU have the right to refuse, should you ever choose to use it, because the very "anti-vaccine" people you demonize have been fighting for us all.

Right now, the burden of "herd immunity" falls on small children, but that is changing. Vaccine manufacturers see an untapped market in adolescent and adult vaccine. They are coming for you next. What will you do if your state, your employer, or your insurance company forces you to get a vaccine that you simply don't want. It hasn't happened to you yet, but if the right to refuse is eroded, it will happen to you sooner than you might think. Who will you turn to? Your legislators who get campaign donations from pharmaceutical companies? The CDC that has former pharma executives sitting on the board? Who will you turn to if you ever want to say no?
What if it harms you, even kills you or your family member? There will be no recourse. No one to blame. You absorb all the medical bills. Deal with all the anger, all the guilt. Alone.

Once we enter the slippery slope of removing and individual's right to refuse medical procedures that carry a risk of injury or death, once we remove an individual's right to speak for him/herself and his/her children, we open ourselves up to an insidious new era, where other drugs and other procedures can be mandated.

I heard (on NPR, interestingly enough) that there are people who want to test for a gene marker that's been found in mass shooters in the hopes that they can put the carriers of that gene on medications in early childhood. Sounds great, right? But many of us carry genes that will never be expressed. You could be a carrier of that gene. Or your child could be a carrier.

So if we follow the "for the greater good" mentality behind vaccines (or the Nazi's "for the greater good" mentality behind eugenics - the breeding out illness. We are looking at forcing people who may never express a sociopathic gene to take antipsychotics, just in case.
Because that's what forced vaccination does. It asks children who may never come into contact with a particular virus to accept a vaccine, just in case. And that's what eugenics was all about. It sterilizes people who can pass on a genetic disease - just in case.

Forced vaccination is a human rights violation. To support it when you know that the government's own National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (NVICP) has paid nearly $3b to damaged persons. The government's Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) lists people who have died as a result of vaccines. Vaccination is unethical at best, sociopathic at worst.
What can we do?

1. The ethical thing to do is to allow people their right to refuse. Let doctors and big pharma - who has marketing budgets larger than the GDP of some countries - to do a better job of convincing parents that vaccines are safe, protective and harmless.

2. Reverse the law that grants vaccine manufacturers total immunity from vaccine injury lawsuits. You can't sue a vaccine manufacturer if your child is injured or killed by a vaccine, even in cases where a safer vaccine was available and not chosen.

Think about that. You can't sue the manufacturer. What other product has legal and government protection? The complete immunity from liability does more to shake a parents' confidence in vaccines than anything else. Be sure they know that with an adverse outcome from a vaccine, they are completely on their own."
Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com/ & http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/
ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood Diseases

Re: Medical Freedom: What Rights Are You Willing To Lose?

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:57 pm
by Maria Bohle
They cannot overturn Row vs Wade to overturn abortion. We, everyone, has a right to decide what we do with our bodies.

They cannot demand we become vaccinated.

The new info is now hitting the street. Vaccinations are going to go down shortly. This is a money grab. Politicians have accepted money from the pharmaceuticals and have passed laws to protect them.

We need to get the word out one person at a time.
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Re: Medical Freedom: What Rights Are You Willing To Lose?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:35 am
by Roger B
I will take my son out of school and home school him if necessary. I will lie if necessary. Since my wife works for the school district, we can't give them a hard time and can't tell them why.

Roger Bird
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:32:28 -0800
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Re: Medical Freedom: What Rights Are You Willing To Lose?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:06 pm
by Rachel
in california, from what i understand, upcoming legislation could remove both the personal and religious examption, and would not exempt home schoolers.

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From: "Roger B rogerbird2@hotmail.com [minutus]"
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 10:28 PM
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Medical Freedom: What Rights Are You Willing To Lose?
I will take my son out of school and home school him if necessary. I will lie if necessary. Since my wife works for the school district, we can't give them a hard time and can't tell them why.

Roger Bird
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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:32:28 -0800
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Medical Freedom: What Rights Are You Willing To Lose?

Re: Medical Freedom: What Rights Are You Willing To Lose?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:49 pm
by Cathy Lemmon
The fight won't be easy, especially when those pushing for the "other side" to win begin seeing the power that is in an educated populous. I want to remain confident that it will happen-- that people will know and it will be publically acknowledged and accepted that, when it comes to the idea of disease prevention, there is a choice
In health!
- Cathy Lemmon, BA, CHP
List Owner, Homeopathy-and-SN
(http:groups.yahoo.com)
Co-Director, Homeoprophylaxis: A Worldwide Choice
(www.HPWorldwideChoice.com)
---In minutus@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
in california, from what i understand, upcoming legislation could remove both the personal and religious examption, and would not exempt home schoolers.

From: "Roger B rogerbird2@... [minutus]"
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 10:28 PM
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Medical Freedom: What Rights Are You Willing To Lose?
I will take my son out of school and home school him if necessary. I will lie if necessary. Since my wife works for the school district, we can't give them a hard time and can't tell them why.

Roger Bird
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:32:28 -0800
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Medical Freedom: What Rights Are You Willing To Lose?

Re: Medical Freedom: What Rights Are You Willing To Lose?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:07 pm
by Roger B
Fortunately I don't live in that groupthink empire any more.

Roger Bird
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:06:17 +0000
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Medical Freedom: What Rights Are You Willing To Lose?
in california, from what i understand, upcoming legislation could remove both the personal and religious examption, and would not exempt home schoolers.

________________________________

From: "Roger B rogerbird2@hotmail.com [minutus]"
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 10:28 PM
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Medical Freedom: What Rights Are You Willing To Lose?
I will take my son out of school and home school him if necessary. I will lie if necessary. Since my wife works for the school district, we can't give them a hard time and can't tell them why.

Roger Bird
________________________________

To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:32:28 -0800
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Medical Freedom: What Rights Are You Willing To Lose?

Re: Medical Freedom: What Rights Are You Willing To Lose?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:18 pm
by Steve Scrutton
There are some links in this article that show how Health Freedom is under attack, especially in the USA, but really throughout the world.
Homeopathy Safe Medicine: Health Freedom, Patient Choice. Why does our media not discuss this issue?

Homeopathy Safe Medicine: Health Freedom, Patient C...
Thomas Jefferson once wrote this about Health Freedom.
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It is a serious situation that we are all going to have to fight against, whenever and wherever it appears.

Steve Scrutton
Steve Scrutton