Astrology vs homeopathy
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:17 pm
I don't even understand exactly what "science based" means. Is it code for materialism? If so, astrology is clearly not materialism and therefore not scientific. But if "science based" is code for materialism, then how do homeopaths get around Avogadro's number? I hear a lot of ideas about that, but I see no proof.
If "science based" means the use of the scientific method, then also homeopathy is a little light on that and may land in the same category as astrology. Pharmaceutical companies, damn their hearts, demonstrate the gold standard of the scientific method with their randomized, crossover, double blind tests. I don't see that in homeopathy or astrology. There is some refinement in the empirical testing of homeopathy, like those tests in Cuba which demonstrated the efficacy of homeopathy quite nicely. I see none of that in astrology. With both homeopathy and astrology, I see mostly observation.
The similarities of homeopathy and astrology are that they are both mostly simple observation based, but I see better observation refinement in homeopathy. The differences is that astrology doesn't (and can't) even pretend to be physical or material. Homeopathy tries to show material or physical causation, but I just don't see how that is possible.
Roger Bird
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 03:30:26 -0800
Subject: [Minutus] Re Astrology - was Flu
It's not o easy to prove that it is not science based.
The facts in favor of its predictions have yet to be scientifically explained, but that does not necessarily make it unscientific.
One only has to work out a natal birth chart to see its validity, whether scientifically proveable at this point or not:-)
It can be proved that it has validity but maybe not shown how it works.
Many say that of homeopathy - but, as for astrology, it does not make the subject invalid.
What can be demonstrated is validiy - much as it is easy to show validity of homeopathy.
How it works, or why it works? As with homepathy, it is uncertain.
The same applies to Numerology. It is eqally valid but hard to explain scientifically - though there are books on it. I found one of them but even as a math major myself, I found the book extremely hard to followaadn gave up before I was halfway. It needs an up to date mathematician to follow it. A bit like books on any in-depth subject requiring more understanding of the terms than the average reader may have.
i do not think that is a reason to assume it unscientific, any more than we assume homeopathy unscientific. Nothing proves asttronomoy or numerology or other systems keyed to universe objects or activities, to be unscientific, to put it another way. Can you prove it is unscientific?
Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
If "science based" means the use of the scientific method, then also homeopathy is a little light on that and may land in the same category as astrology. Pharmaceutical companies, damn their hearts, demonstrate the gold standard of the scientific method with their randomized, crossover, double blind tests. I don't see that in homeopathy or astrology. There is some refinement in the empirical testing of homeopathy, like those tests in Cuba which demonstrated the efficacy of homeopathy quite nicely. I see none of that in astrology. With both homeopathy and astrology, I see mostly observation.
The similarities of homeopathy and astrology are that they are both mostly simple observation based, but I see better observation refinement in homeopathy. The differences is that astrology doesn't (and can't) even pretend to be physical or material. Homeopathy tries to show material or physical causation, but I just don't see how that is possible.
Roger Bird
________________________________
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 03:30:26 -0800
Subject: [Minutus] Re Astrology - was Flu
It's not o easy to prove that it is not science based.
The facts in favor of its predictions have yet to be scientifically explained, but that does not necessarily make it unscientific.
One only has to work out a natal birth chart to see its validity, whether scientifically proveable at this point or not:-)
It can be proved that it has validity but maybe not shown how it works.
Many say that of homeopathy - but, as for astrology, it does not make the subject invalid.
What can be demonstrated is validiy - much as it is easy to show validity of homeopathy.
How it works, or why it works? As with homepathy, it is uncertain.
The same applies to Numerology. It is eqally valid but hard to explain scientifically - though there are books on it. I found one of them but even as a math major myself, I found the book extremely hard to followaadn gave up before I was halfway. It needs an up to date mathematician to follow it. A bit like books on any in-depth subject requiring more understanding of the terms than the average reader may have.
i do not think that is a reason to assume it unscientific, any more than we assume homeopathy unscientific. Nothing proves asttronomoy or numerology or other systems keyed to universe objects or activities, to be unscientific, to put it another way. Can you prove it is unscientific?
Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
