Minutus

Hi!

I find that when I am in suburban areas and outside of cities for a prolonged period of time, I tend to develop low-grade depression. I don't really mean rule areas however I've only been to rule areas for a few days to a spa or perhaps camping or sightseeing four something. But being in national parks or on farms is a very different experience from living in suburbs that aren't really cities.

Now that I am attending school in a small town, that's very spreadout with strip malls and long roadways. Anyway, it's not my definition of a city. It's pretty dead around here.

I am finding that I am feeling depressed. And I'm wondering if it has a lot to do with the environment that I am currently residing in? I try to get away as frequently as possible and luckily I've only had to spend two weekends there. It's a 2 Hour drive from home and about 30 to 45 minutes into the ride exiting the place, I get this sense of relief that overcomes me similar to a reflex (It's similar when you're on the train coming in from Brooklyn and once you hit Manhattan you get that sigh of relief that you're back in Manhattan.)

So my question to the group is, am I imagining this or does such a depression syndrome really exist? I believe that there are some people who are predisposed to living in cities and being away from them for a prolonged period of time creates a certain form of anxiety and depression, but mostly depression.

Your thoughts and comments are appreciated.

Thanks.

A.

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My own feeling, wholly subjective and not scientifically verified, is that your depressed feelings have to do with missing the stimulation provided by a city.
When I was your age, I, too, had that sense of relief passing from Long Island (worse even than Brooklyn) into Manhattan. Manhattan represented decent hairdressers, clothing shops, bookstores, and restaurants, all of which I found missing in suburbia.
Now that I'm older, however, I look upon NYC with dread and enjoy my farm in the country. Less stimulation is better at this stage in life. Perhaps you'll feel that way some day, too -- but not now.
Peace,
Dale

I can not remember where got the idea that Nitric Acid longed for a buzz of excitement. I agree with Dale one eventually can survive with less, Jean

Interesting Dale as I am also from Long Island and I felt the same way in my youth. Now that I am older and have really traveled the world I have learned to see and really feel the BLESSING and JOY that exists in ME. I am in control of and responsible for my emotions and nothing external can interfere with that unless I allow it.

Once I came to understand this concept I realized how very blessed we ALL are and the opportunities we have to excel in our lives every moment of every day by taking responsibility for it.

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All the best, Tamar

I agree with Dale.

It really has to do with understanding your own energy and interests and what the environments mean to you mentally/emotionally.

When I left NYC years ago, it was a big relief to me as I then had cleaner air, quiet, skies, etc that I was craving. I didn’t like
the way things closed down so early in those days but I knew what I was leaving and what I was looking towards.
It was a matter of understanding my personal priorities.

t

I have moved countries several times, never mid city-rural differences.
I think one gets accustomed to an environment and what is available in it. When moving, one expects the usual t hings to be available, and it can cause disappointment when they are not there.

An example: When I first moved to USA, in 1969, I was trying to be a South African still. I wanted boerewors, marmite, guavas, grenadillas, gem squash, devonshire cream fudge, coconut ice, mintcrisp chocolate, and hot custard sauce . etc etc -
and the cloting options were also all mising. (SA had a great textile industry).
Eventually I realized that USA has its own special things and I had to BE an American and look at the glass as half full. It took me quite a while to LOOK for what was good here that I did not have in SA.
For example I could go shopping late at night, salads come with marshmallows, cars cost a quarter as much, there are new winter vegetables I had never heard of to explore, and berries of all kinds... also the rate of poisonous snake, scorpion encounters was essentially nil.
Other things were plus and minus: Snow exists. Bus transport is safe. Computers cost less.

I HAD to adapt consciously and LOOK for the pluses rather than bemoaning the missing stuff.
I first t hought I couidl have it both ways and try to import or make ort acquire what is missing, but that does not work.
"When in Rome, do as the Romans do" is a far happier way to live and I DO believe happiness is a choice.
So I chose to "be American" and be happy.
It does not always go well, for example I made te huge mistake of thjinking that there was a form of justice here by which truth woudl be used. Clearly that was wrong, adn I am trying to figure how to deal with being teice convicted of somethign i did not go near to doing. In fact the second one is an activity not even physically possible t hat the judge invented. I am now guiilty of - and fined for - determining a homeopathic remedy worth $263 with selection based on blood tests of a cat.
If anyone can tell me:
How does one do that?
and
Why am I convicted of doing it?
Where can I pay $263 for a homeopathic remedy?

I would like to know:)
PLease - Feel free to write to Judge Kathleen M O'Connor at Spokane Superior Court to ask how to do that?
Maybe she has a book coming out on it for us to read?
Her address is
Dept 4,
Superior Court for Spokane County, WA
1116 W Broadway Ave.
Spokane, WA 99260

My point: ANY change of environment is going to have its own unique good and bad things associated with it. The trick is to embrace the good ones and look for MORE of them - NEW ones (they will be there for the looking) - that you did not know of before, to enjoy.
After that is it not so much what happens to you that matters, but how you deal with it.
Being happy with what you DO have, is a conscious CHOICE.
Being unhappy about what you do not have is a default.
(For me it is worse in dark weather. I find that I need Ott lights to handle that.)

Namaste,
Irene

--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

This is an interesting subject. My oldest son (and my other kids) grew
up in a rather small Dutch village (Nunspeet, about 27.000 heads), and
about 7 years ago he (and his girlfriend) moved to Amsterdam. Now, he
says, he feels the need to move back to some place, maybe Nunspeet,
where, if you step outside in the middle of the night, you 'hear'
*silence*, and outside the village, the night is dark as a night should
be - Amsterdam has none of this.
I could think of some rubrics like 'alone', 'company' and stuff, but
those don't quite cover it. 'Distraction', hmm...
But it shouldn't be about rubrics, and I would welcome more discussions
on this. For starters, I'd say a healthy organism would/should do well
on nature's rhythms.

Hennie
aim818@yahoo.com [minutus] schreef op 1-12-2014 om 10:27:

Hi Hennie,

MIND, oversensitive; noise to
MIND, QUIET, wants to be; rest and TRANQUILLITY, desires

MIND: DARKNESS; desire for

Agree, it is easier for some to "synch" with nature. The artificial city environment can be overstimulating for some people, while others seem to thrive. Might have to do with the constitutional type???

Atb,

Leilanae

I would agree with you, but it really is about what kind of environment makes you
comfortable.

We work in energy medicine so it is completely understandable to look at the situation
as one in which a person seeks a particular kind of environmental energy. I know people
who cannot live in a place unless there is water close by. I live rurally but knew a
woman who had to get up the mountain almost daily to be by the water. My daughter
seeks humid climates even tho they make her sick as when she was in New Orleans or
Seattle. For her it isn’t the city/country energy as she can live in both equally as that is
how she was raised.

I also watch City folk learn to adjust to country life. Some never do, others embrace it.

I think one can look at these preferences in case taking when there is an imbalance
expressed. For some people country living is scary and they and they need the sense of
people being close. For some City life vibrates and they need to feel the excitement.
Sometimes people need a period of adjustment as they learn to feel safe in the silence
of the country and learn to understand the sounds of silence.

Health was once defined in a class as being able to adapt to changes in life. Where there
possibility of choice, there is not issue. But when someone feels out of place and cannot
adapt then there are problems such as depression. In this case the person made a choice
to be in a rural environment for school purposes but cannot adjust to the new energy of her
surroundings, even tho they are temporary.

t

Or look at it this way:

MIND - DELUSIONS - home - changed; everything at home has
MIND - DISSOCIATION from environment
MIND - ORIENTATION; sense of - decreased
MIND - SADNESS - environment; about

--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."