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Fibonnacci potencies

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:55 pm
by Ellen Madono
Irene,

Just got the Falbonacci book by Dr. Roz. Have to read it more carefullyt. But, good to know the short take on it.

I see lists of potencies and their centecimal equivalents. Ordering them from New Zealand is just too expensive and the place to put them is unthinkable in terms of my organizational commitments. I think you teach your students to make their own. I don't have 3 c, 5 c or 8 c to start with. I presume you are using the Korsakovain method of going up the scale using the same bottle.

This is how I understand the process. Please correct me if I am wrong.
5 c (I only have 6c. Theoretically, that sounds ok as a starting potency. Or maybe 5c is important as a mathematical starting place? I think the ratio is the important aspect. In which case, starting with 6c would be a closeenoughicum.). Adding a pellet, fill a covered small bottle half full of water. Succuss 10 times. Dump out water. Presumably, the water sticking to the bottle is an appropriate and constant ratio for the next step. Give as frequently as I would normally considering the 5 c potency or the 15c equivalent. When we get to 33 M of 34C and above, we are out of my range of experience. But, I trust I would be able to read the symptoms and decide accordingly.
7c Immediately, fill the bottle half full. Succcuss 10 times.

8c. Repeat above. Give that remedy. Watch the patient reaction. Go up the scale making clinical judgements as you would with any other potency scale. Except Dr. Roz's cases improve faster than the his expectations based on previous case work.

9c repeat process above
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13c Give remedy and watch the reaction. Etc.

Best,
Ellen Madono

Re: Fibonnacci potencies

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:40 pm
by Irene de Villiers
Yes they are usually used in C potencies, starting around 5C and working up througfh 233C.
Or start with 8C if you can only get 6C.
Yes pretty much that is easy and fast to do, and has worked well.
I have also used traditional one in 100 dilutions. Both ways work, I thikn it matters not what method but one needs to be consistent to keep the ratios in F scale.
Just start 8C then.
No. F scale actually starts at 0 but wherever you can start is fine., Yo9u woudl not want Lachesis for exampe at less than 3 or 5C.
3C is only 1 part per million, that's strong for snake vemom, adn then add that it is potentized - it's too low to be safe.
I worked out by experiment that one tablespoon in a small bottle is very close to 1 in 100 with what is left clinging to the bottle when you toss out the tablespoon.
So I make it up to the potency I want that way.....then add more water and use that.
Base it on response and use it as long as response is positibe then go to the next potency. When in doubt wait.
As the potency goes higher the dose distance increases. Again - When in doubt wait.

Ot use a cat:-)
They detect the remedy and will tell you if you are dosing too soon or wrong potency!
Some cats (especally Lach ICT for example) will look at you as if you have lost it, if you offer it too soon:-)
It can be quite humbling for the homeopath. But also educatonal!
I have the same result, improvement is about twice as fast especialy after a couple of potencies have had a chance to build on each other.
Yes

It is really very straightforward to use.

Namaste,
Irene
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
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Re: Fibonnacci potencies

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:59 pm
by Bob Needham
Hi Irene

We have had a stray male cat wander in and he's a great little fellow with people but not other cats. I am thinking of using Puls in the F potencies due to his clinging nature he has with us (no claws intended). I perceive his aggression in attempting to chase away our other 2 feline friends is founded in his desire to be bonded to us in an exclusive type of way. If you had any words of wisdom on this I would certainly appreciate as it is upsetting seeing him trying to drive off the other two.

tks bob

Re: Fibonnacci potencies

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:09 pm
by Tanya Marquette
Bob my recently departed male cat was like that. I took him as a stray who was used to people. Any other cat that came on the
property in those early years was treated to a fur flying attack as he chased them off the property. Otherwise he was terrific with
other cats on other properties. He was so thrilled to have a home that was his. Interestingly, he never fought, not even a hiss at
my 17 yr old female who was still with me at the time. He was huge, she teeny but he always deferred to her primacy in the house.

t

Re: Fibonnacci potencies

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:57 pm
by Bob Needham
Hi Tanya

Felix is not a big cat. but will not tolerate any other male or female cat regardless of their size - feisty little beggar - but has great people skills.

Re: Fibonnacci potencies

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:22 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
It might be cheaper coming from Canada, try info@homeodel.com the Homeodel pharmacy in Quebec, www.homeodel.com

Why store all the remedies....too many of them? why not use the simple system of emailing the prescription to a pharmacy that prepares the F series and have the pharmacy send one dose of each remedy? Pharmacist are the professionals who make the remedies exactly according to the proper technique, it is their job....I only keep emergency remedies, nothing else.

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.

"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz

Re: Fibonnacci potencies

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:53 pm
by Roger Barr
Homeodel is quite reasonable and accommodating.

Its good to support our pharmacies. Without them we are nowhere.

Roger

Re: Fibonnacci potencies

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:21 pm
by Vicki Satta
Yes, I get all of my remedies, herbal formulas, my dog Walter's FSeries remedies,etc. from Homeodel. And by the way, I have the series (Nux Vom) that I got for him that are almost completely unused. He got partially through the first bottle he was on when I changed remedies. Only the 5, 8 and 13 potency tubes were opened and I made one or two bottles from those... so still plenty of pellets remaining in those potencies, and the rest are unopened.

If anyone can use these please contact me privately. Maybe we can trade?? I need Argentum Nitricum FSeries and cannot afford it until the beginning of October, but I need it NOW! I also (still) have all of the unopened LMs that I ordered from Hahnemann Labs that I will NEVER use becasue we use FSeries! Let's trade or something! LOL... I accept cash too! Just kidding, but I hate to waste money because I don't have any to waste!
That's right Roger. And it's good that this group of wonderful people exists so we can change ourselves and change the world!! And I am really trying... :)

Vicki

Re: Fibonnacci potencies

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:08 am
by Ellen Madono
Thank-you Irene. Now I am much more clear.

Ellen Madono