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Paper case

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:19 am
by Irene de Villiers
I asked before but had no response so am trying again.

What please, is a "paper case"
(such as apparetly Vithoulkas uses)

Is it an invented case or a real one with a paper written on it or what?

Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
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"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: Paper case

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:50 am
by Shannon Nelson
I think that typically it does refer to a real case, but one that's been pared down to a rather minimal outline of (what the preparer considers to be) its essential features, for use as a brief sort of teaching example. The point of the name being, from dim memory, that *this* (what's on the paper) is what you get to work with; no use asking, "But what foods did he like?" etc. You just work from what's on the paper.

Does that seem to work for the context here?
Shannon

Re: Paper case

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:29 pm
by Irene de Villiers
Thanks Shannon, I suppose it may work:
I was looking at case 7 of Vithoulkas' ones and it claims to be Platina. I know the Platina type well, and some of the featutres listed to use are valid, but the main complaint is NOT covered at all by Plat, and some features listed simply look totally contrived to push the case towwards Platina in ways it is popularly misinterpreted.

I have read some of Vithoulas's work and respect it - but this case looks falsified, and I was wondering if it was a valid one or a made-up one. I suppose it may be a mixture of made up parts to try to force it to the Plat direction - but the whole does not ring true to me at all, unlike most descriptions I have read from Vithoulkas such as those in his book Homeopathy- medicine of the modern man.

Sadly he does not give a physical description of the patient in case 7 as that would clinch whether it was a true Plat or not. I find Plat one of the most misrepresented remedies in the repertory - or perhaps not directly misrepreseted in the repertory but the repertory rubrics are misinterpreted by its readers to mean something that is not actually valid for Plat.
It is a huge issue for remedies where the physical features are very non-average, because provers ARE average, and they then mistake what they feel from the perspective of an average person, when it really needs to be interpreted from the perspective of the physical type of the ICT in question.

It is an unforeseen flaw in the proving system, which does not take physical features into account.

Case 7 for example, is a case of genital herpes with burning - Plat has no burning adn blisters. Lots of remedies are there for genital herpes adn Plat is there too - but Plat has neither burning nor blisters. It also does not have guilt that he has done wrong which is claimed and pain from hemorrhoids which is not there, (but which I can believe for Plat, as it goes with megacolon which is a predispostion for Plat despite also not being in the repertory.) So some of this is believable.
But the sexual excess and claimed haugtiness and reason for it, is overdone in the sexual direction of this case descruption and in practically any description of Plat - but it does not fit.
Plat is haughty about their work, and very sensitive to how they and others feel, though they do not express it sensitively. The case claims Plat had sex and left immediately with no feeling for the partner and was haughty about it - no way. They'd have been sensitive about h ow the other felt, but may not have SAID things to indicate it. But they would not have been haughty and left. I suspect that was invented to flesh out the case using the old wives tales about Plat type.

So there are bits that seem valid and bits that are fiction - it was hard for me to feel that the whole was based on a real case. Your explanation of a sort of shortened case MAY have led to the fictional bits.
I certainly would not have chosen Plat based on what was listed.
Sul happens to have all the features listed.

I also see homosexuality in all the ICT types, and would not at all rely on a rubric that lists 21 remedies only for that propensity. The repertory ad MM has some oddball skewed thinking in the sexual areas, such as masturbation and homosexuality, which are definitely represented with connotations of abnormality and/or pathology rather than simply as facts or features. F=or some reason Plat has been picked on in the sexual area. It IS valid from the perspective that Plat enormously enjoys sex, but not the other extreme connotations listed.

Cats who are Plats tend to document this extremely well. (There are never differences in ICT between cats and humans, you can document in cows, cats, humans, or whatever - same results). And the male cats like an audience so they can show off their exceptional technique and share with many others how much fun it is/was. They all want a good meal first too, and an audience to tell about it after. Male Plats make no bones about how much they enjoyed it and how proud they are that the female also enjoyed it greatly, (indeed much more than with any other mate) - so sexual prowess is valued by Plat - who likes to do all things really well by the way.

Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: Paper case

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:18 pm
by Dale Moss
Paper cases aren't always pared down. Mangialavori teaches from paper cases, but his are full verbatim transcripts of what the patient has said, along with detailed comments on his observations. The flavor of the case comes through in a way it does not in Vithoulkas' reductions to a few keynotes.
Peace,
Dale