Minutus

Hello,

My 11 year old long hair white kitty, Harvey, has an early morning vet visit tomorrow for a growth on his gum that looks to me as if it may be Squamous Cell carcinoma.
He is scheduled with a specialist for a dental next week and my appointment locally was originally made for blood work and urinalysis to take for his dental exam. He has needed dental work for some time but I have been stalling in order to have a cardiac evaluation first, which was done last week. He has had a blackened at gum line left lower canine for some time. Was giving him daily low dose Sil and Ech Ang in dilution. On May 5, gave him Psor 200C which had no effect. On June 8, tooth became painful when eating, slight bleeding discharge at gum and chin swelled somewhat and was painful to touch. Began Ech Ang 200C in dilution daily. Four days later, swelling gone, pain and bleeding stopped. Have continued daily Ech Ang 200.
Over the weekend, noted bright/dark pink small growth on gum line between the upper first and second tooth on left side (not between the Canine and that empty space between it and the next teeth).
I am terrified by what I've read today about oral cancer survival rates.
My immediate concern is what should I allow the general practice vet to do at tomorrow's exam?
If suggested by vet should I allow a biopsy? Vet tech I just spoke with at the office said sometimes they just remove the growth....which scares me If it is cancerous, I would prefer a specialist in the field to do this. Should I just request her visual assessment? She has digital x-ray available (not full mouth like the dental specialists have). Should I request scans .........maybe to see if growth has invaded bone? Other scans?
Any thoughts and all suggestions will be gratefully received.
Thank you - Georgianna

Hello again..........I was in such a rush to post earlier hoping to hear opinions re biopsies for decision making tomorrow, that I didn't go into Harvey's history that caused me concern about this possible oral cancer diagnosis.
Harvey was homeless, living in my farm hedgerows in 2004. When I trapped him and brought him into my home, he immediately emulated every single characteristic of another long hair white cat whom I lost in 2003 to cancer, after 16 of the best years ever spent with a beloved being. I had lost the will to live when Harvey appeared in my fields. Harvey really must have been my dear Seabert retuning as his clone. Harvey looked and acted like him in every way. I had never expected to love again but did, because of Harvey, my Seabert returned. (I named him Harvey after the old movie of the same name, thinking perhaps only I could see him....maybe he wasn't real? Could anything so wonderful really happen?)
Harvey began to exhibit what I thought were kidney problems not long after his arrival. Vet thought he might have pyelonephritis, Using her *words* from her physical exam, gave him Canth and he righted immediately. He continued to have urinary/kidney issues through the years including a few bouts with struvites but always bounced back with homeopathy. (At the time my vet was not practicing other than allopathically but always accepted my use of homeopathy. Since, she now is feverishly practicing acupuncture and Chinese herbs and a few other alternative/holistic therapies!)
In the spring of 2011, she suggested an ultra-sound suspecting polycystic kidney problem. Board certified vet internist/ultra sonographer reported indications of intestinal lymphoma! Such a shock. Harvey never did nor ever has exhibited any symptoms related to lymphoma! I had stated prior to u/s that no biopsy was to be done, just because I felt a bit frightened in my gut about disturbing any cancer and hadn't thought cancer was an issue anyway. Waited almost two months for a follow up u/s which found condition advanced but slowly, indicating to her it was small cell. The board certified internist remarked that if I had concerns re chemo, that I should, at the very least begin pred............now!
I didn't. I feel strongly that had I chosen that path, Harvey would not still be here. I researched for one month and put together a treatment plan for Harvey which consisted of IV vitamin C, oral neoplasene, Iscador injections (for which my then allopathic vet wrote the required Rx, having no idea what it was!) and lots of immune stimulating supplements (as opposed to immune suppressive chemotherapy). After 6 months, the same ultra sound vet, after another follow up u/s, said *well, maybe Harvey never did have lymphoma* as his u/s was clear.
These therapies continued about 2 years (grueling for Harvey) until late last summer when Harvey had an *episode* on the car ride home from an IV vit C treatment that really concerned me. His *communicator* told me Harvey was *tired of it all and wanted to just be normal*. She suggested he had a cardiac event. So stopped treatments that caused so much traveling and concentrated on the things I could do at home. He has been very happy with that!
But the blackened base of that canine tooth remained an issue that I tried to approach with homeopathy, as the communicator had advised I should do, to spare Harvey more vet/travel trauma. Unfortunately I was not successful. Held it at bay for some months but it became obvious he needed dental treatment when the symptoms exhibited mentioned in the post asking for opinions regarding tomorrow's vet visit.
If you read through all this, thank you! Sorry it was so long. Forgive me. - Georgianna
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Hello,

My 11 year old long hair white kitty, Harvey, has an early morning vet visit tomorrow for a growth on his gum that looks to me as if it may be Squamous Cell carcinoma.

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Jean, thank you very much for the suggestion! I appreciate you taking the time to help me. I will make note of your advice for treatment if (hopefully, not) needed.
I am not, at the moment, concerned as much how to treat but how to handle the appointment tomorrow with the possibility of vet suggesting either a biopsy or an excision of the *growth*.
I can't help being concerned about disrupting cancer cells by either needle aspiration, biopsy or removal.
Maybe I should not have read Tullio Simoncini's work?
Thank you, Jean - Georgianna

Hi Georgianna,

I suspect your diagnosis is a wild guess? Squamous cell carcinoma is more comon in humans.
At your cat's age a tumor on the gums is more likely to be a fibrosarcoma, if it is a cancer and not some other lesion.
Why? (meaning what rubrics led to Echinacea, I do not see it)
ALso Why?
To suppress or?
Using homeopathy- or using allopathy?
If a system of treatment has bad rates, do not use it
I would do this:
Figure out what is wrong, do blood tests with CBC and differential to give more info - basically use the visit to get information. Then decide what to do with it later.
Discuss differential diagnosis with the vet, ask pros and ocns, and and make an informed decision.
Whenever you feel scared, assume you need more information and ask for more of it till you feel in control.
THEN decide what to do, not before:-)

Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Irene, thank you so much! Read your post just before leaving for appointment and did as you suggested. Vet vet offered opinions: probably not SSC, could be Fibrosarcoma (as you mentioned), or could be (she hopes) caused by root problem of the tooth next to it. She agreed with you that it could be a different lesion than cancer. She advised to wait till next week, as the dental specialist has better X-ray equipment for a whole mouth scan.
She said he would probably biopsy by removing the growth. (It is quite small.) She quite respects the dentist, and said he would discuss everything thoroughly prior to any procedures. She seemed to think surgical removal of the mass would be the right approach. Not so certain myself.
Physical exam did not reveal anything of concern. Kidneys, heart were fine and no enlarged lymph nodes.
Gave him Psor 200C because both Allen's and Herring's referenced loose teeth, bleeding, pain, etc. Was going to give Pyro (I do read your work a lot!) but decided to try Psor first. A number of years ago, he had been treated for quite some time by Robert Bannan for terrible skin issues and wasn't improving. Mr. Bannan suggested we do Harvey's Algorithm. Harvey's results of the Candegabe Algorithm indicated a strong response to remedies in the Animal Kingdom and the only animal remedy on the list was Psor. One dose Psor 200C cleared all skin and ear problems.
Ech Ang was very high on the Algorithm list for the next highest in response, the vegetable family and found references to support giving it a try, though Pyro ranked higher. In a few days, it did stop the bleeding and pain. The *infected* odor almost gone. Maybe now would be the time to try Pyro?
Thank you so much for your thoughts which are always sound and much respected! Best, Georgianna