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Re: IMPORTANT! Please read!
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:00 pm
by domenicstanghini
Hello
Words Well Said. We are humans first, or souls in a body first, needing to learn lessons of love.....Homeopathy is secondary as well as helping others. If we can not help ourselves first and learn to love SELF first then we will NOT learn to love and serve others, helping them back to health.
Love is healing, attacking others is not love and is not healing. We must each learn our lessons, lessons of love for Self and others....so that we can be of greatest service to others through Homeopathy. Anything less than this and we are creating Karma.
Best Wishes Domenic
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It is so sad to see these unnecessary tensions in the group. Don't we need to define friendship, understanding, being unprejudiced, lovely and friendly discussions,... before defining homeopathy and simillimum? What are we going to prove? Whom are we going to convince? At what price? Sacrificing what and for what? Let's be friends again and happily share our thoughts and enjoy the differences, and enjoy the contrasting views. Different doors need different keys and with your various ideas we can open the door to different worlds. Let's smile, forgive ourselves, forgive others, relax and begin a new life!
With love,
Ardavan
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IMPORTANT! Please read!
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:00 pm
by Ardavan Shahrdar
My dear friends,
It is so sad to see these unnecessary tensions in the group. Don't we need to define friendship, understanding, being unprejudiced, lovely and friendly discussions,... before defining homeopathy and simillimum? What are we going to prove? Whom are we going to convince? At what price? Sacrificing what and for what? Let's be friends again and happily share our thoughts and enjoy the differences, and enjoy the contrasting views. Different doors need different keys and with your various ideas we can open the door to different worlds. Let's smile, forgive ourselves, forgive others, relax and begin a new life!
With love,
Ardavan
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Re: IMPORTANT! Please read!
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:39 pm
by Hennie Duits
I saw this one on Twitter:
Dear Karma, I have a list of people you missed.
H.
pogman9999999@yahoo.com schreef op 15-2-2014 23:00:
Re: IMPORTANT! Please read!
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:48 pm
by Dom
Hello
I hear you....and my experience is that Karma is never missed. Someone wise once told me....God Keeps score...so we never need to....and if one pays attention....the universe will always even the score or reach homeostasis whether we want it to or not. It is shocking and stunning ( to me, a simple guy...) but it does nevertheless! No one escapes their deeds, positive or negative. We will all be drawn to that which we resonate to...much like a homeopathic remedy.
Best Wishes Domenic
Re: IMPORTANT! Please read!
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:43 am
by Ellen Madono
HI Dominique,
Recently my sensitivity to violent language has increased. I can't wait for violence to escalate just so the violence can give the speaker a chance for release. I feel I have to say something. Amazingly, even if the violence continues, it continues with a little more awareness, so change even happens, although not immediately. This has been happening in face to face contacts.
I am finding that strategies of non-violent conversation are important, not just being polite and nice. Not just turning the other way. This is not a fully explored field for me, but it is central to my current view of even clinical homeopathy case management.
Best,
Ellen
Re: IMPORTANT! Please read!
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:33 am
by Fran Sheffield
Hi Ellen,
I think it is important to differentiate between comments and critique of the merits of person's words or work - and ad hominem attacks directed at the person.
The first is valid and can be constructive, the second is destructive and ego-driven. In getting upset about the first, some go on to use the second.
Re: IMPORTANT! Please read!
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:25 am
by Tanya Marquette
For me the difference has to do with whether the conversation is on target.
In other words, when someone is being angry directly at something said there is
validity. When the anger is tangential, as in when we are having an intellectual
conversation and someone disagrees they react with anger, it is really off putting.
But no matter the condition that leads to strong language, I never find it either useful
or respectful to resort to ad hominems, professional name calling, or any other version
of insult and put downs.
I think the ‘release’ that Ellen talks about here on Minutus reflects the kind of slow
build up of frustration when people are trying to stay focused, stuffing down their feelings,
and waiting for the explosion that wants to come. But these expressions are never to the
point and so resolution never occurs—only a shutting down when others become critical
of the nastiness.
I don’t see any place for that kind of expression. We need to be more cognizant of how
our egos claim center stage and learn to deal with that problem.
t
From: Fran Sheffield
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 7:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [Minutus] RE: IMPORTANT! Please read!
Hi Ellen,
I think it is important to differentiate between comments and critique of the merits of person's words or work - and ad hominem attacks directed at the person.
The first is valid and can be constructive, the second is destructive and ego-driven. In getting upset about the first, some go on to use the second.
Re: IMPORTANT! Please read!
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:22 am
by Ellen Madono
Hi,
I too am emotionally invested in my ideas. Disengaging my emotional investment in ideas is not so easy. Even the idea that our professional conversations should be civil becomes an abstraction to become attached to. There is a paradox here. No simple escape to being on the right side is going to work.
What I am suggesting is we can look at our difficulties as having more significance than professional socialization. Of course that is important, but going through the process of disengaging our ego from ideas is really a constant effort. Ego gets in the way of clinical management as well. The problem is not so different.
So, instead of pointing out the "bad guys" etc., there is a place for reflection. You can't just do it this maneuvering of the spirit with your clients. It is a part of all communications, all the time. This is because disengaging the ego is not a one time deal. If you are alive, you have a ego waiting to take over if you allow it to do so. When it does take over, if you fight it, or start blaming, it just gets stronger. So, my feeling is, the best we can do is to continually say "Sit Rove.. Good dog. " Rover the ego will keep jumping up and we have to continually make an effort to return to the true focus of our efforts: healing.
If you are not one of the battling parties, still there has to be a better way of calming things down. Each individual needs to struggle with his/her ego, so I am not discounting individual responsibility. Still but we are a community, so even if we are good at escaping from battles, we can have much better conversations if we play some constructive role in taming the ego.
Even if you want no part in these Minutus battles, i am suggesting that we all make an effort to contact "warring parties" in small bits and peices and help one another to calm down. I have been saying things in public. At the moment, it feels ok to shoot from the hip. But on hindsight, probably I am not being helpful. I am busy and so is everyone else. We can't all be on a peace making mission all the time. But, when the spirit moves you, please say something helpful privately. I think the earlier the better. Before negative feelings escalate.
Ellen Madono
Re: IMPORTANT! Please read!
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:29 am
by ShakirMM
"God never gives us more than what we can handle"
"Majority of the problems in life are because of two things;
First, we act without thinking
Second, we keep thinking without acting"
"Love for all, hatred for none"
"A good apology has 3 parts-
1. I'm sorry..
2. It's my fault....
3, How do I make it right?
Well! unfortunately, many of us usually miss the third part"
"I have seen many of human without dresses on them and many dresses without human in them".
Shakir
Hi,
I too am emotionally invested in my ideas. Disengaging my emotional investment in ideas is not so easy. Even the idea that our professional conversations should be civil becomes an abstraction to become attached to. There is a paradox here. No simple escape to being on the right side is going to work.
What I am suggesting is we can look at our difficulties as having more significance than professional socialization. Of course that is important, but going through the process of disengaging our ego from ideas is really a constant effort. Ego gets in the way of clinical management as well. The problem is not so different.
So, instead of pointing out the "bad guys" etc., there is a place for reflection. You can't just do it this maneuvering of the spirit with your clients. It is a part of all communications, all the time. This is because disengaging the ego is not a one time deal. If you are alive, you have a ego waiting to take over if you allow it to do so. When it does take over, if you fight it, or start blaming, it just gets stronger. So, my feeling is, the best we can do is to continually say "Sit Rove.. Good dog. " Rover the ego will keep jumping up and we have to continually make an effort to return to the true focus of our efforts: healing.
If you are not one of the battling parties, still there has to be a better way of calming things down. Each individual needs to struggle with his/her ego, so I am not discounting individual responsibility. Still but we are a community, so even if we are good at escaping from battles, we can have much better conversations if we play some constructive role in taming the ego.
Even if you want no part in these Minutus battles, i am suggesting that we all make an effort to contact "warring parties" in small bits and peices and help one another to calm down. I have been saying things in public. At the moment, it feels ok to shoot from the hip. But on hindsight, probably I am not being helpful. I am busy and so is everyone else. We can't all be on a peace making mission all the time. But, when the spirit moves you, please say something helpful privately. I think the earlier the better. Before negative feelings escalate.
Ellen Madono
Re: IMPORTANT! Please read!
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:31 am
by Irene de Villiers
LOL!
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