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Speaking of cats.....

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:34 pm
by Carol Orr
When one of our cats was bitten and the bite was infected we finally took him
to vet who gave antibiotics. At the time someone had recommended Collodial
Silver. Instead of the antibiotics we gave the silver 3 times the first day
and 2 times for the next two days and the cat recovered. We didn't give any
more silver after that and cat fully recovered. Prior to the bite and since it
was little...about 9 years old now...the cat had crystals or something in his
bladder(kidney) and would throw up. We took advice to give high fat content
dry food...diamond food for active cats. The problem resolved with that food.
But we ran out of the food shortly after the bite...and the cat has been
eating regular food. The problem didn't come back, hasn't come back. And when
we inherited the cat 3 or 4 years ago,..we didn't know we were supposed to
give medicine and problem started about a month after we got her. Maybe the
crystals are building up again...but I have to wonder if the collodial silver
played some role in her not getting sick anymore. I had also given her several
homeopathic remedies before we had taken her to the vet....ledum, arnica ,
hypericum...and while those helped and she wasn't visibly swollen..the
infection was still inside trying to get out. So I'm just wondering if the
collodial silver could have done something. If the silver is supposed to kill
everything...were the crystals in her caused by some kind of bacterial, etc.
kind of thing?

Re: Speaking of cats.....

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:37 pm
by Tanya Marquette
CS deals with bacteria and viruses. It is antibiotic but can deal with viruses
which ab’s cannot.
Good for you side-stepping the drug treatments.
tanya
From: Carol Orr
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 12:34 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Speaking of cats.....

When one of our cats was bitten and the bite was infected we finally took him
to vet who gave antibiotics. At the time someone had recommended Collodial
Silver. Instead of the antibiotics we gave the silver 3 times the first day
and 2 times for the next two days and the cat recovered. We didn't give any
more silver after that and cat fully recovered. Prior to the bite and since it
was little...about 9 years old now...the cat had crystals or something in his
bladder(kidney) and would throw up. We took advice to give high fat content
dry food...diamond food for active cats. The problem resolved with that food.
But we ran out of the food shortly after the bite...and the cat has been
eating regular food. The problem didn't come back, hasn't come back. And when
we inherited the cat 3 or 4 years ago,..we didn't know we were supposed to
give medicine and problem started about a month after we got her. Maybe the
crystals are building up again...but I have to wonder if the collodial silver
played some role in her not getting sick anymore. I had also given her several
homeopathic remedies before we had taken her to the vet....ledum, arnica ,
hypericum...and while those helped and she wasn't visibly swollen..the
infection was still inside trying to get out. So I'm just wondering if the
collodial silver could have done something. If the silver is supposed to kill
everything...were the crystals in her caused by some kind of bacterial, etc.
kind of thing?

Re: Speaking of cats.....

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:41 pm
by Ginny Wilken
I'm betting the CS was also suppressive, on a deep level, and the frustration of not letting the body deal with the infection will help produce deeper chronic disease.

I'm always in favor of supporting the vital force.
ginny

All stunts performed without a net!

Re: Speaking of cats.....

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:44 pm
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
Don't know about cats, but in humans sub-clinical infections or the mere presence of bacteria can be a focus of minerals precipitation and the "seed" of calculi.
They act as a foreign body on which the minerals attach and grow into symptomatic crystals.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind" www.naturamedica.webs.com

Re: Speaking of cats.....

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:08 pm
by Tanya Marquette
I wouldn’t assume CS is suppressive. It has been around
for centuries as a deep healing substance. If it kills harmful
bacteria/viruses and the body and eliminate that, it is not
suppressive.
I would agree that if we can get the vital force charged up
to heal itself, that is the best thing. But often an herb or nutrient
or mineral is what will do it.
t
From: ginny wilken
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 2:41 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Speaking of cats.....

I'm betting the CS was also suppressive, on a deep level, and the frustration of not letting the body deal with the infection will help produce deeper chronic disease.
I'm always in favor of supporting the vital force.
ginny
All stunts performed without a net!

Re: Speaking of cats.....

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:26 am
by Irene de Villiers
Agreed, but antibiotics in general are not useful as they do not restore health - it is the typical allopathic approach to kill the organism and leave the body susceptible to more attack, in fact mo0re susceptoble as the antibiotic toxin adds a new problem to handle.

CS is worse than other antibiotics as many individuals do not excrete it readily and you can not tell in advance who can. Those who do not, have heavy metal poisoning. This does not happen with regular antibiotics. So I will not go near CS, even if I want a fast knockdown of organisms for some reason.

There is nothing healthy about CS.
Homeopathy is shown to strengthen cells so that they resist bacteria and viruses, a much better approach IMO.

Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: Speaking of cats.....

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:43 am
by Irene de Villiers
There are real reasons behind what you saw here:
The food you used prior to the Diamond Naturals Active Cat formula (one of the only ones I suggest for cats)
would have caused a high urinary pH, where cats need a urinary pH of 5.5 to be healthy and avoid crystals.
At a higher pH the nature of cat urine is such that magnesium in the urine (which will always be there unless the cat has a magnesium deficiency) will precipitate struvite crystals. At the correct pH the magnesium is dissolved and there are no crystals, and all is fine.
Some food manufactureres reduce magnesium in food (causing deficiency) to avoid this feline feature of needing very acid urine. Bad idea, magnesium is needed for more than 600 functions, including as a nerve nutrient....

The food used is relevant becasue any plant food (except grains) will raise the pH above the cat's correct one, and cause the crystals to precipitate.
Diamond Naturals Active Cat formula LACKS the fruit, vegetables and herbs and plant protein that does the pH raising in other cat "foods", and instead it has high animal protien, and only animal fat., and mininmal grains but none for their protein (Plain Grains are neutral, they neither lower nor raise pH - unlike grain PROTEIN like corn gluten or wheat gluten or soy protein which raises pH a lot and does direct kidney damage as well).

Animal protein lowers pH, it must be the highest percentage cat food ingredient - Fat is neutral, grains are neutral, fruit veg and herbs adn plant protein make alkaline toxins for cats.

ALL dry cat food requires a little starch (Grains being the best source) to "glue" the dry food into kibble.
This is NOT the same as grain "gluten" which is cheap plant protein and very damaging.
SO do NOT get "grain free" dry foods. They will have toxic veg instead of safe grain as the starch source. (like potato or peas etc)

DIamond Active cat (not their other formulas) has a high animal protein content with no feline toxins, fruit or veg or herbs. They use rice for starch (the best accepted grain in cats, which they can use for energy) and all-animal fat.
So these reasons are behind what you experiecned with your kitty. It all makes sense.

Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: Speaking of cats.....

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:53 am
by Ginny Wilken
Yeah, well, I didn't write that, for the record. I just responded to something in that thread. And I realize you know that, Irene:)

ginny

All stunts performed without a net!

Re: Speaking of cats.....

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:14 am
by Irene de Villiers
Sorry Ginny, I should have realized that your line was still there and did not fit.

Should have read:
It was about Carol's post on her cat.

.....Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: Speaking of cats.....

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:43 am
by Leilanae
Hi Irene,

Is the powdered cellulose sawdust?
"Chicken & Rice Formula
Ingredients

Chicken meal, ground rice, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), natural chicken flavor, flaxseed, powdered cellulose, fish meal,................."

Atb,

Leilanae