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Re: Bones breaking down

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:35 pm
by Maria Bohle
Hello Friends, have another difficult to comprehend case.

That of a person who was bitten by a rattlesnake a few years ago.

Got the anti-venom many hours after the snake bite.

It seems the bones in this person's body are starting to break down at a pretty rapid rate, Person was told 6 weeks ago that 2/3 of the bones in the arms were gone and last visit the other day was told by medical doctor the bone destruction was 20% worse than before.

The doctors feel it is iatrogenic, however I suspect it is the aftermath of the snake bite. This is my opinion only and much more is going on.

I gave a dose of crotalis h 30c, I believe and some symphytum 200C with calc phos tissue salts.

This person works in the sun, so sun exposure is not limited, and continues to do manual labor so is getting lots of exercise.

I Added material doses of hyluronic acid after the last doctors visit. This person lost a father to bone cancer and was told by the doctor it might be bone cancer a biopsy of the bone marrow is scheduled.

This person drinks a lot of sugared coffee, eats one meal a day (so didn't want to give calcium without a meal) an drinks a carbonated sugar drink every evening.

Should I put this person on an agressive 'bone restoration' program. Our remedies if the doctor is to be believed didn't seem to do anything, but the client admitted to forgetting to take the remedies on a daily basis. Family has started to monitor the remedy intake after the last news was received.

Happy to hear your thoughts.

Maria

Re: Bones breaking down

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:53 pm
by Tanya Marquette
Just a little FYI, working in construction is not exercise. it is constant stress on the body
in an imbalanced manner. I speak from lots of experience on this one. The weight
bearing on the long bones of the leg is great for the bones, but the rest of it is all stress,
often with repetitive motion.

He should be doing other forms of stretching and relaxation to counter the effects of
his day job.

Are his bones breaking? They sound so fragile.

He also should be getting a goodly amount of other minerals beside calcium for the bones.
Calc can make the bones brittle if not in concert with the minerals that provide strength
and flexibility (mag, mang, boron, sil, etc)

t

Re: Bones breaking down

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:25 pm
by Dale Moss
Hi, Maria
Posts like this raise a major issue for me: remedies can work miracles, but we can't expect them to work in a vacuum. My first experience with the homeopathic treatment of Lyme drove home that the body has to be properly supported with good nutrition, good fluids, and rest if it's to have a good healing response. Inadequate support means an inadequate response.
It sounds as if your Px needs to make some major lifestyle/diet changes if he wants to get better. I don't think remedies alone will do the trick.
Peace,
Dale

Re: Bones breaking down

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:05 pm
by Tanya Marquette
VEry well said Dale.

t

Re: Bones breaking down

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:17 am
by John R. Benneth
Well, none of the following is intended as medical advice, . . you should always consult a licensed professional who can properly diagnose the case.
That said, I agree with the others, he's got to stop the coffee, sugar, milk and soda . . cold turkey. He's got to STOP. It's really hard to turn these ailments around if the patient isn't willing to remove aggravating causes. He'd probably get better if he'd just stop drinking coffee and pop.
But its an interesting case. The snake bite was good detective work, but I don't know about Crot. . . you might want to consider a high potency of Lach.
I think the Symp. dose is way too high for fractures. I'd go to a very low dose, 1x every 4 hours. However, if you look at this as a systemic issue of osteomyletis due to the blood poisoning, you may want to consider Gunpowder, four grains of the trituration in lac sugar once every four hours to begin with, then taper it down. It may trigger some herpetic eruptions as a healing aggravation venting the plasma toxin, Clarke got scarred in the face for life testing it on himself . . but there it is, for osteomyelitis . .
Also an internal dose of Epsom salts, 2 tablespoons in a full glass of water, once every two weeks followed by shark cartillage and Ruta 6c . Bone or oxtail soup. Kale.
best wishes,
John
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Re: Bones breaking down

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:57 am
by Shannon Nelson
What are the epsom salts for, in this protocol?
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Re: Bones breaking down

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:02 am
by Shannon Nelson
Hi Maria,

What do they figure the iatrogenic cause may have been, do you know?
You say that "much more is going on" -- without breaching confidentiality, can you say any more about it?

Re: Bones breaking down

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:50 am
by Angela McGuire
Is this person taking vitamin D3 in addition to Cal-Mag citrate?

Angie

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Re: Bones breaking down

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:51 am
by Maria Bohle
I cannot say much more on a public forum. Father died of bone cancer about this persons age. Said the feeling is as if the bones are being gnawed by a mouse. I know thy is one of our rubrics. Docs have no clue and want yo do a bone marrow biopsy. Not sure pt will comply. I have not been given anything but a verbal interpretation. Not seen blood tests or anything. Impression I get is patient is squeamish and doesn't understand any of what is going on and may not want to think about it. Economics are not good so is avoiding any unnecessary costs or what pt perceives are not necessary. Has no broken bones at this point but if doctors are correct it may not be long now. They do have X-rays

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Re: Bones breaking down

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:54 am
by pb000014
Hi Maria,
If you're doing tissue salts add Calc fluor. Fluorides cause rapid destruction of tissue.
Regards,
Paul

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