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Compassion

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 2:59 pm
by Ellen Madono
Gratitude to all,

The names of all the kind and generous homeopaths on this list flow through my mind like a river. Although I have never met any of you in person, I feel like I know you much better than my neighbors. I am thankful for the kindness that you express in your participation in Minutus. Yesterday the kind voices on this list helped be to be a better homeopath.

Yesterday at 5 am a client emailed me from jail. She had been trying to reach me since 1 am. She had attempted to jump in front of a train and was caught. She did not want to me leak her identity to the police. I talked on the telephone to a policeman and told him that I could not supply them with information about her. I had taken her case so I could say nothing. They asked me to talk to her and persuade her to tell them her name. She felt ashamed of her attempted suicide, so she would not tell her name.

So as requested by the police, I was going to email her. I was asked to convice her to give them her name. My first impluse was to write a rant about the huge fine that her family would have to pay had she succeeded. Train suicides regularily stop large portions of the rail system in any large Japanese city. So the fine is hefty and the surviving family has to pay. I got stuck thinking, is she liable for attempted suicide?

The rational rant to persuade her did not sound right. My real goal was to get into a position where I could give her a remedy and stop the suicidal impulses. Trust was the issue.

I stopped typing and talked in my mind with one of our Minutus members. Instead of the initial rant, through out the day I sent her emails and left phone calls telling her that I was so happy that she was alive. Actually I hardly know her. But, I wrote and talked as if she were my sister.

I come from a family where if you disagree with someone, they cannot be your friend. You withdraw and say nothing, but you put a black x in front of their name. Rationality rules where I come from. Of course, there are plenty of emotional explosions, so rationality does not rule. I see this behavior on Minutus too, but what I take into my heart is the compassion that I feel in most of our communication.

Those kind voices helped me yesterday and I thank-you for helping me to overcome my upbringing.

That night she called. She said she had not cried throughout the entire ordeal but she was crying as she talked to me. She was so happy that I had protected her privacy. Beating, being stripped naked to prevent suicide possibilities ect., added up to a true ordeal. If I had not been listening to my fellow homeopath's voices, I might have sent the original rational email and I would have never have received this call. I went to bed feeling very happy.

May Peace and Love Rule,
Ellen Madono

Re: Compassion

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 3:33 pm
by Irene de Villiers
Good for you Ellen - that's a wonderful Christmas event you brought about.
Namaste,
Irene
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"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: Compassion

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 3:43 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Ellen, that's beautiful!

Rationality vs. compassion; isn't it a shame that sometimes they are viewed *as if* in opposition -- but in fact they are not. I have appreciated the analogy of a bird, where heart is one wing, and mind is the other; without *both* taking part, and each working with the other, we would be crippled.

Your story is a lovely example of where rationality and compassion both called for the same goal (helping the patient), and worked / will work together to get there. Thanks for sharing!!

Shannon

Re: Compassion

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:36 pm
by John R. Benneth
In a message dated 12/25/2013 5:59:35 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, ellen.madono@gmail.com writes:
Kali bromide

John Benneth, Homoeopath
PG Hom - London (Hons.)
http://johnbenneth.com
SKYPE: John Benneth (Portland, Oregon)
503- 819 - 7777 (USA)

Re: Compassion

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:50 pm
by John R. Benneth
In a message dated 12/26/2013 11:36:06 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, jrbenneth@aol.com writes:
Also, forgetting your name . . Kali Bromide

Re: Compassion

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:48 pm
by Roger B
Those who eschew feelings and love and compassion and cling to rationality and logic are most to be pitied. They are the ones who hate homeopathy, can't dance, have poor social skills, etc. Sometimes these people are that way because of deep hurt that they can't deal with. They are not happy.

My wife is strongly in the feelings and compassion camp. She is almost completely technologically crippled, but she is happy and has awesome social skills and is a GREAT mother. Her two children LIVED on her chest 24/7 for the first 4 months of their lives, and you can see that in their emotional strength and self-sufficiency. Everyone at work loves her, and I have learned so much from her.

The only reason that I can see why we need rationality/logic is because we live in the world. It is our spiritual responsibility to live effective lives in relation to the world, but compassion and love should be our guiding principles.

Sincerely,

Roger Bird
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: shannonnelson@tds.net
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2013 08:43:36 -0600
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Compassion

Ellen, that's beautiful!
Rationality vs. compassion; isn't it a shame that sometimes they are viewed *as if* in opposition -- but in fact they are not. I have appreciated the analogy of a bird, where heart is one wing, and mind is the other; without *both* taking part, and each working with the other, we would be crippled.

Your story is a lovely example of where rationality and compassion both called for the same goal (helping the patient), and worked / will work together to get there. Thanks for sharing!!

Shannon

Re: Compassion

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:03 am
by Ellen Madono
Dear Roger,
Sometimes the most humble people are our greatest heroes and heroines. We have to be listening to see it or hear it. A kind voice, a single word at the right moment pulls us into balance. As Shannon says, balance is important.
Have a wonderful holiday season.
Ellen
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Re: Compassion

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:55 am
by John R. Benneth
Simply posting a remedy that fits two odd symptoms may not seem to fit Ellen's topic of compassion, but actually it's a paradigm shift from contempt to compassion by way of understanding.
I have found that homoeopathy sets the stage for compassion. Even when it is an attack, the attacker can be viewed with compassion when it is seen that the attack comes not from a decision, but from an unnamed compulsion denied.
A woman tries to jump off the platform into the path of an oncoming train, and when apprehended appears to refuse to give her name. But what is happening is that she is suffering from is amnesic aphasia.
We see both acts, the suicide and the aphasia as being connected only by some kind of stubborn madness. But along comes a homoeopath such as Ellen and says those are symptoms of a deep, little known, but very specific pathology, a pattern of behavior known only by its indicated remedy, an ionized pharmaceutical that stands opposite to the cause, as a reflection in a mirror.
Before, not understanding what it was, it bred our contempt. In that it fades in the light, could it be that contempt is really contempt for our own ignorance?
The error in judgment is our own. When the error corrected, all that is left is compassion.
Benneth
In a message dated 12/26/2013 11:50:41 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, jrbenneth@aol.com writes:
John Benneth, Homoeopath
PG Hom - London (Hons.)
http://johnbenneth.com
SKYPE: John Benneth (Portland, Oregon)
503- 819 - 7777 (USA)

Re: Compassion

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:20 am
by pb000014
Of course we could also just be the unprejudiced observer. Compassion needs to be put aside IN THE CONSULTATION. It comes from our sensitivity and could affect how we think we would be affected in the situation or how we see the situation.

Regards,
Paul
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Re: Compassion

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:20 am
by Tanya Marquette
I don’t think compassion and being an unprejudiced observer are contradictory.
Compassion does not have to sink into a state of active sympathy which would affect our observations and
responses. And sometimes how a person affects us is part of what we should be observing in the person.
I also have seen the effects of people working so hard on not being compassionate that they react in a
hard balled manner and miss a lot of the case.
Self-awareness is critical in case taking.
t
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Compassion

Of course we could also just be the unprejudiced observer. Compassion needs to be put aside IN THE CONSULTATION. It comes from our sensitivity and could affect how we think we would be affected in the situation or how we see the situation.
Regards,
Paul
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