Minutus

Looked at my notes and
Forgot that between first and second dose of Arnica gave Hypercerium 30 C - two doses 30 min apart. That was the one that reduced the pain alot.
Entire case - Broken(or dislocated toe) with lots of swelling - took 3 days to heal
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: homeopath4me@live.com
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 00:19:33 -0500
Subject: [Minutus] Sharing a case
Hello everybody,
I like this group but very little actual sharing of resolved cases are happening here -
To make a start here is a case I just solved.
Cat - neutered Male - 18 years old - finicky eater and needy in affection.
Came into the house limping with hind right Paws very hot swollen and one toe out on an angle - Cat would not let me examine because of pain.
Here is what I did: Apis 30C one dose for the hot swelling - refused to eat or drink
gave Evaporated unsweetened milk with water - in syringe force feed - about 5 times one dose Arnica 30C in the Milk
waited about 5 hours - Arnica30C one dose in water - for pain - result: less swollen but still to painful waited one day
then one dose of Bellis P. 30C in water - now Cat is more comfy - eats small amount Tuna. Next morning one more dose of Bellis - no more swelling toe is back aligned and Cat walks normally - success
Eats normally again

Now I like to hear some one elses success stories - lets learn from each other.

Gisela DiCarlo,Di.Vet Hom

Nice case, Gisela. I was thinking of sharing one of my own -- until Irene put the fear of Bot into me!
Peace,
Dale
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Another unfounded fear if one follows solely Irene's de/conc-lusions.
GOOGLE "minutus Irene" and no messages from Minutus are currently in search results.
There are messages referring to Minutus posts on other sites that are being searched by bots
Minutus itself is not one.
GOOGLE "minutus Roger" and none of Roger's posts are in search results, the only one being one that Benneth reposted in his blog, which IS in search results thus being bot searched.
Reposting of Minutus original posts made here on searchable by bots internet sites may be more of a concern and violation of some type of internet policy.
Minutus is no less private or no more public than it has always been, you need to be a member to see the posts or have them sent to you by email.
Yours and others' email addresses have always been visible when receiving posts.
Susan

Minutus is public. You do not need to be a memebr to access the archives. That means the bots search the Minutus archives directly.
Google has nothing to do with it. EVERY yahoo group that is public can be searched by bots directly.
THat is what the"public" setting means.

......Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

It is not what one can google but what goes on behind the scenes of which there is plenty of proof bots or no bots.
Mary Ann Gilmore

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From: "healthyinfo6@aol.com"
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Sharing a case-oops
Another unfounded fear if one follows solely Irene's de/conc-lusions.
GOOGLE "minutus Irene" and no messages from Minutus are currently in search results.
There are messages referring to Minutus posts on other sites that are being searched by bots
Minutus itself is not one.
GOOGLE "minutus Roger" and none of Roger's posts are in search results, the only one being one that Benneth reposted in his blog, which IS in search results thus being bot searched.
Reposting of Minutus original posts made here on searchable by bots internet sites may be more of a concern and violation of some type of internet policy.
Minutus is no less private or no more public than it has always been, you need to be a member to see the posts or have them sent to you by email.
Yours and others' email addresses have always been visible when receiving posts.
Susan

Whoa! Is it possible to communication information without engaging in ad hominem attacks?
Peace,
Dale
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Ok, everyone, we get it.

Big pharma and 'evidence based medicine' might take us as a threat and pursue us with all their money.

We could be misunderstood.

We may be 'hauled in' for practicing medicine without a license.

And, we may all by 'lying' to look better in front of our peers.

We 'might' be sued if we discuss homeopathy in any way except theoretical.
Too many mights and mays, not enough facts.

Let's get on with out lives and back to homeopathy!!

If you want to discuss cases, fine discuss away. Put a disclaimer at the end of your email this is for informational purposes only and is not meant to diagnose or treat named diseases.

Happy New Year to a NEW attitude on this list and back to homeopathy.

Warmly, Maria
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But, isn't this about HOW we discuss homeopathy? How is this any different from discussing maintaining causes or anything else that directly or indirectly affects HOW we practice homeopathy? What good is it if a good homeopath is ruined for a lack of information about the dangers involved with certain procedures in certain places (even online)? How many clients could be harmed if that homeopath is ruined and not allowed to continue practicing or forced to move? I remember how many times Hahnemann had to move because of 'being misunderstood' chased, sued or whatever but he was never afraid to speak out.

Cheers,
Mary Ann Gilmore

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From: Maria Bohle
To: "minutus@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Sharing a case-oops
Ok, everyone, we get it.

Big pharma and 'evidence based medicine' might take us as a threat and pursue us with all their money.

We could be misunderstood.

We may be 'hauled in' for practicing medicine without a license.

And, we may all by 'lying' to look better in front of our peers.

We 'might' be sued if we discuss homeopathy in any way except theoretical.
Too many mights and mays, not enough facts.

Let's get on with out lives and back to homeopathy!!

If you want to discuss cases, fine discuss away. Put a disclaimer at the end of your email this is for informational purposes only and is not meant to diagnose or treat named diseases.

Happy New Year to a NEW attitude on this list and back to homeopathy.

Warmly, Maria
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DO you?
May I ask - When last were you hauled into court to prove the assertions you make in this email?
I'm not saying anyoinwe should stop speaking out, but that the WAY to do it needs to be within the laws of the place where you live, and your suggestions in this emal will get you behind bars in a hurry. They are VERY off base. YOu hold a positioj of authority as head of a scool (as do I) and making assumptions as you do ere, can get an awful lot of people into UNneccesary hot water.
I have just been "hauled in" as you think is funny to put in quotes.
I was not even practicing homeopathy, I was "hauled in" for offering to find the constitutional type of a cat. The offer was declined, not a penny changed hands, and here I am supposedly practicing medicine. I have a strong contract term which my clinets sinn and agree in wrwiting (not a one-sided disclaimer).
All thrown out as invalid.

Only the 1994 Federal Supplements law in USA requires a disclaimer and requires it in specific wording. All other disclaimers are seen as attempts to say you are doing one thing when you are doing another - and are all thrown out. Even my contract term signed by client was invalid.

It reads as follows to give you an idea of what is NOT held valid in court:
12. * Please read, know and acknowledge you agree this aspect:
I am not a licensed veterinarian (DVM), but a veterinary homeopath (D.Vet.Hom). So my training excludes surgery and does not allow me to write prescriptions, diagnose and treat in this country/state of WA. You will be doing any treatment based on advice, information and recommendations from me that you choose to use or not. I shall recommend you see your vet for certain things if needed and it is always your prerogative to do so.
(Typical useful things from a vet in a FIP case are help with things like sub-Q hydration, Hills a/d food, and draining of FIP fluid if there is a lot and certain lab tests to discover useful information/diagnostics - and other items as needed - all can be very helpful indeed.)
State Agree/Disagree:
It is a FACT that three is an anti-homeopathy movement increasing daly in their virulence against homeopathy.
It is a FACT that I (and Fran) have been railroaded into court.
There are not "mights" Maria.
It will not hold up i ncourt.

Discuss homeopathy but not cases unless what you do is within the law where the writere lives.
All else is interpreted as claiming a cure, which is illegal in most states if not all.
You could discuss cass you have heard of.

Again - it depends on the law where you live.
Where I am, I did not step over the line but I'm being railroaded anyway. So I certainly would not advise anyone to discuss cases that ARE over the line per the law where YOU live.

We need to fight and get homeopathy back to being accepted, but the way to do it is not flaunt the law, but to work to change it,, and to educate - to educate on facts not pretense that nothig is wrong.
YOu would see it differently had YOU been "hauled into court" (the 'maybe' you add insults the profession) and then forced to cease and desist having anythg at all to do with homeopathy. How would THAT affect your life?

Maybe it is time to smell the roses - but do it while being mindful of the thorns.

READ the thorns - i.e. your local law.

Put you eneregy into impoving the law, not getting more poeple railroaded by it - which is NOT a "maye". It is happening.
If you still want to flaunt the law - by all means that is your decision for civil disobedience - but as head of a school I'd not suggest you advise others to flaunt it bllindly IN PUBLIC (this list IS public) as your email here does.

This afternoon they decide in MY case, whether I get called guilty without even a hearing. They already declined to see my evidecne of what a constitutional type is about. This is for real Maria - not a "maybe". And they know I have a school and tend to be outspoken about homeopathy - do you think it an accident I was unmaybely singled out?

Namaste,
Irene

REPLY TO: > only
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

If EVERYONE discusses cases, there will be too many of them to chase down. Sort of like the defense strategies of herds.

I would discuss cases, but I don't have any cases and I don't have any "discuss" because I don't know enough to discuss. (:->)

Roger
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: pioneernaturalwellness@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 10:17:02 -0800
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Sharing a case-oops
But, isn't this about HOW we discuss homeopathy? How is this any different from discussing maintaining causes or anything else that directly or indirectly affects HOW we practice homeopathy? What good is it if a good homeopath is ruined for a lack of information about the dangers involved with certain procedures in certain places (even online)? How many clients could be harmed if that homeopath is ruined and not allowed to continue practicing or forced to move? I remember how many times Hahnemann had to move because of 'being misunderstood' chased, sued or whatever but he was never afraid to speak out.

Cheers,
Mary Ann Gilmore

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From: Maria Bohle
To: "minutus@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Sharing a case-oops
Ok, everyone, we get it.

Big pharma and 'evidence based medicine' might take us as a threat and pursue us with all their money.

We could be misunderstood.

We may be 'hauled in' for practicing medicine without a license.

And, we may all by 'lying' to look better in front of our peers.

We 'might' be sued if we discuss homeopathy in any way except theoretical.
Too many mights and mays, not enough facts.

Let's get on with out lives and back to homeopathy!!

If you want to discuss cases, fine discuss away. Put a disclaimer at the end of your email this is for informational purposes only and is not meant to diagnose or treat named diseases.

Happy New Year to a NEW attitude on this list and back to homeopathy.

Warmly, Maria
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