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Sharing a case

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:19 am
by Gisela Ahrendt
Hello everybody,
I like this group but very little actual sharing of resolved cases are happening here -
To make a start here is a case I just solved.
Cat - neutered Male - 18 years old - finicky eater and needy in affection.
Came into the house limping with hind right Paws very hot swollen and one toe out on an angle - Cat would not let me examine because of pain.
Here is what I did: Apis 30C one dose for the hot swelling - refused to eat or drink
gave Evaporated unsweetened milk with water - in syringe force feed - about 5 times one dose Arnica 30C in the Milk
waited about 5 hours - Arnica30C one dose in water - for pain - result: less swollen but still to painful waited one day
then one dose of Bellis P. 30C in water - now Cat is more comfy - eats small amount Tuna. Next morning one more dose of Bellis - no more swelling toe is back aligned and Cat walks normally - success
Eats normally again :)

Now I like to hear some one elses success stories - lets learn from each other.

Gisela DiCarlo,Di.Vet Hom

Re: Sharing a case

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:44 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
What made you change from Arnica to Bellis P, please?
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind" www.naturamedica.webs.com

Re: Sharing a case

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:56 am
by Tanya Marquette
why did you decide to redose Arn 30c instead of going up to 200c?
t
From: Gisela Ahrendt
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 12:19 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Sharing a case

Hello everybody,
I like this group but very little actual sharing of resolved cases are happening here -
To make a start here is a case I just solved.
Cat - neutered Male - 18 years old - finicky eater and needy in affection.
Came into the house limping with hind right Paws very hot swollen and one toe out on an angle - Cat would not let me examine because of pain.
Here is what I did: Apis 30C one dose for the hot swelling - refused to eat or drink
gave Evaporated unsweetened milk with water - in syringe force feed - about 5 times one dose Arnica 30C in the Milk
waited about 5 hours - Arnica30C one dose in water - for pain - result: less swollen but still to painful waited one day
then one dose of Bellis P. 30C in water - now Cat is more comfy - eats small amount Tuna. Next morning one more dose of Bellis - no more swelling toe is back aligned and Cat walks normally - success
Eats normally again :)

Now I like to hear some one elses success stories - lets learn from each other.

Gisela DiCarlo,Di.Vet Hom

Re: Sharing a case

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:01 am
by Jean Doherty
Sometimes whatever one does is OK .
Jean

Re: Sharing a case

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:43 am
by Irene de Villiers
Gisela,
I had an email crash recent.y which made me look at the website for the list emails for the firsttimel I wqas horrified to see Minutus lisyted as a public list with no memebrship needed to oaccess all posts.

Therefore - For most people, presenting a case would be financial and possiblky career suicide.

As this list is a public list, you do not need to subscribe to read it., So any skeptic can read it without subscription BUT so can any activist looking for homeopaths to prosecute without cause - AND so can automated bots.
Being public also alows "bots" to parse the list emails and gather personal and other information to sell about list members - to sex offenders, pedophiles, thieves and whoever else wants it, including prosecutors trying to get rid of homeopaths - which we all know is a worldwide activity with a lot of money behind it.
A bot is a program that reads all the emails automatically, looking for key words and automatically stores the information in a searchable database to sell or use.

Typical keywords are:
usually - so they can see what you uisually do/when/etc and know when to burgle/pedophile activity/etc
vacation - same idea
child - to see where a child is vulnerabe to attack by pedophile (pedophiles pay big bucks for this bot info)
red/blue/etc - to know what color car/clothes etc - to sell to clothing/shoe/car sellers for spam
success - to know when you are claiming a "cure" or prescription or other restricted-to-licenced activity
(They do not care that you say success and not cure - or that you recommned and not prescribe - THEY get to interpret what you mean )
The list of trigger words for bots can be as long as they like
Public lists can be parsed easily bu bots - not subscribed ones.

WHY this list is public beats me, It should REQUIRE subscription to read. BUt that is an owner decision however unwisely that decision has been made.

I suggest nobody share a case here unless the owner at least makes Minutus subscription only. Too easy to get a bot to parse emails to find words that trigger putting homeopaths out of business with zero effort on their part and disaster for the homeopath - that does NOT promote homeopathy.

I do not know who owns this list but I sure would advise them to take it out of the public domain. People who want to read it then still can read it - but must be recorded members first, and no malicious bots can then use it without anyone knowing.

Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: Sharing a case

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:47 am
by Tanya Marquette
not criticizing the choice—just asking for the reasoning.
isn’t that what we do in understanding how others perceive their cases?
t
From: Jean Doherty
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 1:01 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Sharing a case

Sometimes whatever one does is OK .
Jean

Re: Sharing a case

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:25 am
by Tanya Marquette
Thanks for this info Irene.
Given your recent ordeal with this issue, I can appreciate your sensitivity,
But you are correct. When this list was begun we did not have the consciousness
regarding spying and it nefarious uses.
t
From: Irene de Villiers
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 1:43 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Sharing a case
Gisela,
I had an email crash recent.y which made me look at the website for the list emails for the firsttimel I wqas horrified to see Minutus lisyted as a public list with no memebrship needed to oaccess all posts.

Therefore - For most people, presenting a case would be financial and possiblky career suicide.

As this list is a public list, you do not need to subscribe to read it., So any skeptic can read it without subscription BUT so can any activist looking for homeopaths to prosecute without cause - AND so can automated bots.
Being public also alows "bots" to parse the list emails and gather personal and other information to sell about list members - to sex offenders, pedophiles, thieves and whoever else wants it, including prosecutors trying to get rid of homeopaths - which we all know is a worldwide activity with a lot of money behind it.
A bot is a program that reads all the emails automatically, looking for key words and automatically stores the information in a searchable database to sell or use.

Typical keywords are:
usually - so they can see what you uisually do/when/etc and know when to burgle/pedophile activity/etc
vacation - same idea
child - to see where a child is vulnerabe to attack by pedophile (pedophiles pay big bucks for this bot info)
red/blue/etc - to know what color car/clothes etc - to sell to clothing/shoe/car sellers for spam
success - to know when you are claiming a "cure" or prescription or other restricted-to-licenced activity
(They do not care that you say success and not cure - or that you recommned and not prescribe - THEY get to interpret what you mean )
The list of trigger words for bots can be as long as they like
Public lists can be parsed easily bu bots - not subscribed ones.

WHY this list is public beats me, It should REQUIRE subscription to read. BUt that is an owner decision however unwisely that decision has been made.

I suggest nobody share a case here unless the owner at least makes Minutus subscription only. Too easy to get a bot to parse emails to find words that trigger putting homeopaths out of business with zero effort on their part and disaster for the homeopath - that does NOT promote homeopathy.

I do not know who owns this list but I sure would advise them to take it out of the public domain. People who want to read it then still can read it - but must be recorded members first, and no malicious bots can then use it without anyone knowing.

Namaste,
Irene

REPLY TO: only
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: Sharing a case

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:23 pm
by Gisela Ahrendt
Thank you Irene did not know this - yes it should be private - so no do not share and by the way this cat was my own
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Re: Sharing a case

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:24 pm
by Gisela Ahrendt
Jean, 30C for acute, this was an acute case not a long term
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: clellyd@bigpond.com
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 17:01:19 +1100
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Sharing a case
Sometimes whatever one does is OK .
Jean

Re: Sharing a case

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:26 pm
by Gisela Ahrendt
JR - when ever Arnica works - Bellis will clear up the rest and finish it (Boricke)
Gisela
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: jroz@ihug.co.nz
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 18:44:07 +1300
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Sharing a case
What made you change from Arnica to Bellis P, please?
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind" www.naturamedica.webs.com