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My constitutional remedy

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:27 am
by Ellen Madono
Honestly, I was very alarmed by that discussion of remedy personalities. It was partiatlly in jest, so I ignored it. Particularly, we never give remedies to dead people.

I personally do not believe that we know enough about any remedy to have such a discussion in a serious manner. We know about pathologogical symptoms, but that says little about the positive character of a remedy. Clinical cases give rise to the positive symptoms, but they are not proving symptoms. They are impressions.

For years I have worried about the implication of Katie's email. People who don't know much about homeopathy also think that when I do a case I'm stereotyping patients. In fact, I give the most terrible remedy personalities to lovely people. These days I use some special methods that help me to bypass these remedy personalities. The personality symptoms are helpful when they fit, but when they don't fit they are meaningless. I think that remark made by the clerk at the homeopathic pharmacy was at best stupid.Just like any symptom of a remedy not having that symptom is not important. Only having the symptom is useful. No symptom of a remedy is absolutely necessary for using that remedy.

Re: My constitutional remedy

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:12 am
by John R. Benneth
I'm not so sure you have a valid concern, Ellen, but I can certainly understand it. I suppose when it comes to speculating on the remedies of people past, it's literally speaking ill of the dead. However, I don't think the cons outweigh the pros. I think at best we're all here to learn, and I for one have benefited by reading other people's assessments, even when they're of me.
I take it all with a grain of salt, and realize that if there are congenital types, then they must be part of a greater plan, and with their ills and shortcomings, their pathologies, they are the prices paid for needed strengths and capabilities . . and that is "if" . . what is a remedy type when cured? Does a Platina become a mere Lycopodium?
The final demand is for compassion. Who can blame the cat for being a cat?
Benneth
In a message dated 12/3/2013 8:27:52 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ellen.madono@gmail.com writes:
John Benneth, Homoeopath
PG Hom - London (Hons.)
http://johnbenneth.com
SKYPE: John Benneth (Portland, Oregon)
503- 819 - 7777 (USA)

Re: My constitutional remedy

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:33 pm
by Irene de Villiers
There are no terrible remedy personalaties:-)

The symptoms in the repertory represent very out of balance states, and not the normal woderful lpersonalities that ALSO are associated with that remedy.

Because the nice normal features are not likely to be recorded as proving symptoms - and nor any physical symptoms like shortness, tallness, and so om amd mpr any mpovement features such as the way one walks etc, there needs to be a much larger and separate study of remedies to determine their physical kinesiological and other as yet undocumented features.

That is something I have been working on for a some decades using cats (faster generation time than humans and plenty of them to study as a cat breeder sice age 7, and geneticist - my study (and book) on cat genetics plus homeopathy combined led to this...). Cats are representative for study of all species as of course the remedy types occur in all species and breeds and plants - and I included others to a lesser extent along the way.

SO my recent statements about types are based on many years of study, not just a guess.
It is consistent that every individual has ONE type for life.
They may need other remedies during their lifetime for varios reasons - but the type they are born with is core to their being and aligned with all they inherit. I hope to publish it all at some point.

Meantime it is fun to get enough clues to know a type and then to predict sight unseen, all kinds of features known from my research... for example if someone describes their dog or cat physical features, and it is atype I know well, I can describe their personality to the owner in surprising-to-them detail - or vice vera, on hearing personality I can predict physical appearance sight unseen.

Provings cannot help as the type of the prover - and their physical and kinesiology aspects - are not discovered, recorded or taken into account! It has been assumed that they do not matter.
But they do.

Namaste,
Irene

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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: My constitutional remedy

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:05 pm
by Irene de Villiers
Type is indeed congenital and points to ALL heritable traits not just the ones seen in a proving - which shows out of balance ones
Cured plat becomes a balanced plat - without the excesses of proving sx for example:-) Adn with all the normal Plat features not in the repertory.
Cured Lyc becomes balanced Lyc - with less cowarly tendencies beind the bravado - they are very nice persoalities and full of fun.

Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: My constitutional remedy

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:28 pm
by Roger B
There are differing degrees of intensity of remedy personalities. Otherwise how do you explain why I am so much better to get along with? An intense sulfur (like I was) would be difficult to get along with, or as one TV personality put it, "I don't have a communications problem if you will merely do what I tell you to do." (:->)

Roger Bird
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 05:33:33 -0800
Subject: Re: [Minutus] My constitutional remedy
There are no terrible remedy personalaties:-)

Re: My constitutional remedy

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:30 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Oh I like that! So true, and applies to so much of life.

Re: My constitutional remedy

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:25 pm
by Ginny Wilken
For those who have access, I found David Little's writings on the basic, or Hippocratic, temperaments very enlightening in this regard. He gives tables of negative and positive expressions of each, pointing out that alterations, or dyscrasias, are always negative manifestations and caused by disease.

restricted access, but at

http://hoemembers.com/Members/Lessons/H ... /C1-L7.asp
ginny

All stunts performed without a net!

Re: My constitutional remedy

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:27 pm
by John R. Benneth
Good answers Irene. Thank you.
Benneth
In a message dated 12/4/2013 6:06:09 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, furryboots@icehouse.net writes:
John Benneth, Homoeopath
PG Hom - London (Hons.)
http://johnbenneth.com
SKYPE: John Benneth (Portland, Oregon)
503- 819 - 7777 (USA)

Re: My constitutional remedy

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:37 am
by Ellen Madono
Irene's opinion is praticularily meaningful to me because she sees large numbers of cats and has done so over a long period of practice. Most homeopaths could not make the same statements with equal force even if they speak the truth.
To me, reading about remedy personalities in books, are not the same as experiencing them in practice. Because I don't see many patients, I recognize a personaility based on book study or the personality described in books comes out as I get to know a patient even if I did not recognize that personality on the first interview. So, my distrust of book learned personalities and the actual experience of the vetenarian homeopath below are very different. I use other methods to get around this weakness. I don't want to be dependent on "reading personality" at this point in my practice.

Re: My constitutional remedy

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:53 am
by Irene de Villiers
Differing degrees of balance or out of balance.

...........Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."