Minutus

Tsk tsk, you all ought to know . . here he is, our Iranian homeopath Soroush Ibrahimi in a video of the Goldacre vs. Fisher homeopathy "debate." .
The mighty Dr. Soroush appears at the 1:05 timing mark.
Fisher comes of as wonderfully cheeky, Soroush admirably wise and Goldacre like he doesn't know what he's talking about . . always.
John
In a message dated 10/3/2013 2:09:39 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rogerbird2@hotmail.com writes:
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I am not a doctor! J
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jrbenneth@aol.com
Sent: 04 October 2013 02:41
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Soroush in video (was Re: [Minutus] Clathrates)
Tsk tsk, you all ought to know . . here he is, our Iranian homeopath Soroush Ibrahimi in a video of the Goldacre vs. Fisher homeopathy "debate." .
The mighty Dr. Soroush appears at the 1:05 timing mark.
Fisher comes of as wonderfully cheeky, Soroush admirably wise and Goldacre like he doesn't know what he's talking about . . always.
John
In a message dated 10/3/2013 2:09:39 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rogerbird2@hotmail.com writes:
________________________________
________________________________
EXTRAORDINARY MEDICINE

John Benneth, Homeopath
PG Hom - London (Hons.)
http://johnbenneth.com

SKYPE: John Benneth (Portland, Oregon)
503- 819 - 7777 (USA)

Love people, expect them to love you back.

I am so naughty. I did not listen to the anti-homeopathy dude because I know that homeopathy works and I don't want to raise my blood pressure, expecially since I cannot respond to him. Was there anything after him that was fun to listen to?

Roger Bird
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: finrod@finrod.co.uk
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 03:20:52 +0100
Subject: RE: Soroush in video (was Re: [Minutus] Clathrates)
I am not a doctor! J
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jrbenneth@aol.com
Sent: 04 October 2013 02:41
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Soroush in video (was Re: [Minutus] Clathrates)
Tsk tsk, you all ought to know . . here he is, our Iranian homeopath Soroush Ibrahimi in a video of the Goldacre vs. Fisher homeopathy "debate." .
The mighty Dr. Soroush appears at the 1:05 timing mark.
Fisher comes of as wonderfully cheeky, Soroush admirably wise and Goldacre like he doesn't know what he's talking about . . always.
John
In a message dated 10/3/2013 2:09:39 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rogerbird2@hotmail.com writes:
________________________________
________________________________
EXTRAORDINARY MEDICINE

John Benneth, Homeopath
PG Hom - London (Hons.)
http://johnbenneth.com

SKYPE: John Benneth (Portland, Oregon)
503- 819 - 7777 (USA)

Love people, expect them to love you back.

Lovely to see Soroush speaking so eloquently in that video – Thanks for finding it for us and particularly saying at which point on the video Soroush can be found so I didn’t have to listen to all the debate!!! Wow Ben agreeing on what Soroush said and saying homeopathy can be a valid choice.
Rochelle Marsden MSc, RSHom, MNWCH, AAMET

Registered with the Society of Homeopaths

EFT(Advanced) Practitioner

www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

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Thank you!
Ben Goldacre is a medical doctor who has specialised on statistics. His recent articles are against big pharma not providing all the info of safety etc.
Ben and I had a long history where I had challenged him to take part in a proving – he refused to take part saying that I may poison him! I said if as you say there is nothing in them, how would I poison you?
I took suspicious and fear of poisoning and something else and LACHASIS come up nicely.
On that evening Dr Fisher and I had gone to the wrong gate of the London Natural History Museum so the two of us walked together to the correct gate during which I told him be careful Ben is a Lach lest he stings you. But I felt that because I was a non-medic homeopath he did not pay much attention.
If you look at the beginning of the tape Fisher tries to use statistics and Ben scores well.
Time was short that evening but I think a longer face-to-face session with chaps like ben would be more effective.
Best wishes

Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rochelle
Sent: 04 October 2013 12:14
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Soroush in video (was Re: [Minutus] Clathrates)
Lovely to see Soroush speaking so eloquently in that video – Thanks for finding it for us and particularly saying at which point on the video Soroush can be found so I didn’t have to listen to all the debate!!! Wow Ben agreeing on what Soroush said and saying homeopathy can be a valid choice.
Rochelle Marsden MSc, RSHom, MNWCH, AAMET

Registered with the Society of Homeopaths

EFT(Advanced) Practitioner

www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

https://www.facebook.com/southporthomeopathicpractice

https://www.facebook.com/groups/621281734568831/ (For Homeopathy and EFT Questions) New!!

A Healthy Happy Pain Free Workforce is a more Productive Workforce

EFT- Tapping Workshops to learn a Life Changing Skill for 6-12 participants

I’m afraid that I have never been impressed with Peter Fisher when I have seen him on TV etc . I have never felt that he supports our case strongly enough. It is as if his job is on line if he says too much J
Rochelle
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of finrod@finrod.co.uk
Thank you!
Ben Goldacre is a medical doctor who has specialised on statistics. His recent articles are against big pharma not providing all the info of safety etc.
Ben and I had a long history where I had challenged him to take part in a proving – he refused to take part saying that I may poison him! I said if as you say there is nothing in them, how would I poison you?
I took suspicious and fear of poisoning and something else and LACHASIS come up nicely.
On that evening Dr Fisher and I had gone to the wrong gate of the London Natural History Museum so the two of us walked together to the correct gate during which I told him be careful Ben is a Lach lest he stings you. But I felt that because I was a non-medic homeopath he did not pay much attention.
If you look at the beginning of the tape Fisher tries to use statistics and Ben scores well.
Time was short that evening but I think a longer face-to-face session with chaps like ben would be more effective.
Best wishes

Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rochelle
Sent: 04 October 2013 12:14
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Soroush in video (was Re: [Minutus] Clathrates)
Lovely to see Soroush speaking so eloquently in that video – Thanks for finding it for us and particularly saying at which point on the video Soroush can be found so I didn’t have to listen to all the debate!!! Wow Ben agreeing on what Soroush said and saying homeopathy can be a valid choice.
Rochelle Marsden MSc, RSHom, MNWCH, AAMET

Registered with the Society of Homeopaths

EFT(Advanced) Practitioner

www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

https://www.facebook.com/southporthomeopathicpractice

https://www.facebook.com/groups/621281734568831/ (For Homeopathy and EFT Questions) New!!

A Healthy Happy Pain Free Workforce is a more Productive Workforce

EFT- Tapping Workshops to learn a Life Changing Skill for 6-12 participants

Are you a homeopath?
I am not a doctor! J
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jrbenneth@aol.com
Sent: 04 October 2013 02:41
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Soroush in video (was Re: [Minutus] Clathrates)
Tsk tsk, you all ought to know . . here he is, our Iranian homeopath Soroush Ibrahimi in a video of the Goldacre vs. Fisher homeopathy "debate." .
The mighty Dr. Soroush appears at the 1:05 timing mark.
Fisher comes of as wonderfully cheeky, Soroush admirably wise and Goldacre like he doesn't know what he's talking about . . always.
John
In a message dated 10/3/2013 2:09:39 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rogerbird2@hotmail.com writes:

________________________________
________________________________
EXTRAORDINARY MEDICINE

John Benneth, Homeopath
PG Hom - London (Hons.)
http://johnbenneth.com

SKYPE: John Benneth (Portland, Oregon)
503- 819 - 7777 (USA)

Love people, expect them to love you back.

The problem with the debate is that Fischer is very weak and Goldacre comes across as
the one who knows more. I have often spoken on the need for homepaths to learn more
about public speaking and presentation. Fischer missed the beat many times in this
forum and I was very frustrated listening to him. He generated no confidence in me and
the audience was affected by this as well. This forum needs to be studied, dispassionately,
and analyzed for the styles and presentations of the speakers. There is much to be learned.
t
From: Fatemeh Es
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:29 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Soroush in video (was Re: [Minutus] Clathrates)

Are you a homeopath?
I am not a doctor! J
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jrbenneth@aol.com
Sent: 04 October 2013 02:41
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Soroush in video (was Re: [Minutus] Clathrates)
Tsk tsk, you all ought to know . . here he is, our Iranian homeopath Soroush Ibrahimi in a video of the Goldacre vs. Fisher homeopathy "debate." .
The mighty Dr. Soroush appears at the 1:05 timing mark.
Fisher comes of as wonderfully cheeky, Soroush admirably wise and Goldacre like he doesn't know what he's talking about . . always.
John
In a message dated 10/3/2013 2:09:39 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rogerbird2@hotmail.com writes:

________________________________
________________________________
EXTRAORDINARY MEDICINE

John Benneth, Homeopath
PG Hom - London (Hons.)
http://johnbenneth.com

SKYPE: John Benneth (Portland, Oregon)
503- 819 - 7777 (USA)

Love people, expect them to love you back.

Great link! Thank you for posting!
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