In a message dated 9/24/2013 6:23:15 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
ellen.madono@gmail.com writes:
Before anything more is said, it should be stated that we're obviously dealing with an electrical phenomenon, which is easily forgotten in discussing the structural distinctions wiothin homeopathic remedies. With that said, it should be pointed out, sooner or later, that Nobel prize-winning chemist Linus Pauling proposed that the narcotic effects of alcohol are due to the formation of clathrate hydrates in the brain.
University of Cincinnati Professor Dale W. Schaefer, in the Chemical and Materials Engineering Department of UC's College of Engineering and Applied Science, thinks Pauling is wrong, but presumably only about the nomenclature of "clathrate," not the effects of what Schaeffer proposes as a cage-like hydrogen-bonded structure, which he says is a liquid analogue of a clathrate.
"Water alcohol mixtures are known to form clathrate hydrates below -80 degrees C," he says, "which is why we proposed a transient cage-like structure in the liquid at room temperature."
Schaeffer's comments come from collaborative tests the U of C produced with Moscow State University that showed humans are able to distinguish differences in tastes between vodkas, due to their clathrate content.
To my knowledge there is no paper that explains explain why clathrates or their analogues have narcotic effects and have taste distinctions, but I believe it is due to the increased conductivity and EM effects brought about by hydrogen bond structuring. What's important here is the acknowledgement that clathrates have biological effects, and this strongly supports a theory for the action of homeopathic remedies.
http://www.news-medical.net/news/201006 ... vodka.aspx
Certainly I wish to be corrected on this if I'm wrong, but as I understand it, Joe Rozencwajg proposes something similar. The question I have with this is, would it require a chain reaction, "crystallizing" the organism's water . . and if so, how would it nucleate? What would it nucleate around? What would act as the guest? Alcohol effects, unlike homeopathic, are dtermined by volume. THe more you drink, the more bioloigcal effects you feel; noit so with homeopathic remedies.
To the best of my understanding, (i.e. Schaefer) the clathrate model for "homeopathics," i.e. supramolecular structuring, is analogous . . I can't refer to any study that shows clathrates are present in homeopathic remedies, in the way that methane clathrates are found, for example, on the ocean floor . . the same that caused the BP oil disaster by clogging up the pipe. I think the reason clathrates are not more noted in homeopathic remedies is because the difficulty in identifying the phenomenon in its nano forms once pure pneumatic nucleation begins once the dilution goes over the Avogadro limit . . and also because, possibly, once the host is structured, then nucleation is not necessary to carry the information, except for the "skin effect" of tension around cavitation, which increases conductivity, hence potency.
We know that the remedy, although administered remotely from the afflicted site, must be distributed globally . . and then acts locally. To further explain, a remedy can be administered through the nose's olfactory senses and have an immediate curative effect on an afflicted organ.
So how do we explain that?
Perhaps the take away is that Joe is right, if clathrate formation (or something analogous to clathrates) is what he's proposing. He hasn't been forthcoming about it in lieu of book sales, so I don't know. The organism may have a global, a para-neural electrical system that operates through its fluids via hydrogen bond structuring. As soon as the signal hits the afflicted site, the bodies fluids naturally opsonically nucleate around or tag the antigen.
The reason I'm cautious about using clathrates as the sole explanation for homeopathy is that they focus on the character of the guest initially, but after the guest solute has been discarded by dilution, it requires that there be distinctions in the host that control the action of the remedy, meaning that the entire host has been restructured with cavitation.
John
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