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Re: gum surgery etc.

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:52 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Friend is having a procedure this weekend wherein a long-nected dental abscess will finally be cleaned out. They will pull the tooth and clean out the pus pocket (apparently large, as dental pus pockets go), and pack the hole with something to replace the bone. (It's a non-bovine and I think non-biological product called something like igneios?)

I'll have Arnica on hand (200 and 1M), but am wondering what other remedies might come into play -- or if anyone here has used cell salts for that situation.

There have been shooting pains recently, so I'll also have hypericum on hand just in case. What else… Silica fits him constitutionally (an un-tested guess, but strongly supported from observation), so I will have that on hand also, and calc phos.

Anyone have other suggestions, or experience with the situation?

Thanks,
Shannon

Re: gum surgery etc.

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:48 pm
by Leilanae
Hi Shannon,

Calendula MT, antiseptic, promotes granulation and rapid healing by first intention and hemostatic after tooth extraction. Boericke

Atb,

Leilanae

Re: gum surgery etc.

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:29 am
by Maria Bohle
Shannon. Try pyrogen 200c for the infection. Put it in water and sip until infection is gone.

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Re: gum surgery etc.

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:30 am
by Dale Moss
What about giving her something like Silica that corresponds to the abscess
and shooting pains, not to mention the bone loss? Perhaps this would be a
good use for the cell salt.

Peace,
Dale

Re: gum surgery etc.

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:36 am
by Shannon Nelson
Thanks Leilanae, I will bring that too. I have been more concerned about supporting the bone healing, but that's a good thought to follow too.

Re: gum surgery etc.

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:40 am
by Shannon Nelson
Thanks Maria,

Do you feel this would apply even where the infection appears to have remained localized? it is eating the bone away terribly, but does not seem to have infected the bone, and he does not seem to be having systemic effects (or at least not much).

I once had a very unpleasant proving experience with pyrogen when it was "sort or" indicated, so have been more leery of it unless clearly needed.

And would it actually clear the pus from the pocket, have you seen it do that? I figure he's way past the point of having room to experiment, so I am thankful that a dentist is finally in the mix!

Re: gum surgery etc.

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:46 am
by Shannon Nelson
I am going to try to get silica into him. Besides the "constitutional" indications, it helped him once for an acute, but when he tried it recently -- only briefly -- for effects of the tooth, he didn't see an effect. Maybe a higher potency would have had effect… Anyway yes, I'll try to work that in too.

My line of thinking has been to begin with first-aid / acute remedies (arnica, hypericum, and from there I will have to rep and consider), while also looking out for chances to give silica.

I've become very fond of cell salts, but they need so much repeating! A definite disadvantage when working for people without much "commitment"…

Shannon

Re: gum surgery etc.

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:55 am
by Irene de Villiers
Never heard of that product. I've certainly had to h ave some serious dental/bone work.

Calc phos 6X plus Symphytum 34C, 55C, 89C as needed, for bone repair and bone pain till bone is repaired fully.
Abscess - I like best, Tarantula cubensis 30C or F series to handle the pain and abscess, as often as needed - it will either bring to a head and drain or abort internally, is great for abscess pain which can be severe, and ensures all the pus comes away. If you can't Tarent-c easily then Bell 6C can work, frequently dosed, followed by calendula AFTER it is all clear (with either approach), so as to regranulate the tissue into healthy tissue once the pus is all clear.

[Pyrogenium probably not needed - it is good if the pus gets into the blood stream instead of opening to the surface - at the surface Calend is far better IMO]

My own experience was with bone infection behind the teeth due to micro-crazy-paving teeth allowing bacteria free access (due to my Cushings syndrome illness - it breaks down every body structure). I needed jaw surgery on all four quadrants to tidy it up in abt 2006. It was rather less than fun but much helped by remedies. I bleed easily so I took a bottle of caledula tincture to use on gauze pads - with pressure applied stops bleeding right away. My dentist who knows absolutely nothing about homeopathy - has gotten used to this and complained recently when I forgot the calendula tincture (one of my front teeth snapped off, last month, they are delicate and brittle) and he had to use his far slower and less effective methods to get the bleeding to stop:-) It's always fun to make a convert:-)

Namaste,
Irene

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Re: gum surgery etc.

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:11 am
by Leilanae
Hi Shannon,

If they are going to

" pack the hole with something to replace the bone. (It's a non-bovine and I think non-biological product called something like igneios?)

do you think Silica would tend to expel the replacement?

Atb,

Leilanae

Re: gum surgery etc.

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:42 am
by Maria Bohle
You must have proved the pyrogen. I have never had a problem with it when used for infective conditions and the application for tooth abscesses into experience gas worked well. Don't know that I have had a case as bad as yours though. One oft students used it on a bitch that had retained a puppy for a couple of weeks. It was under the ribs and no visible on x ray. The puppy came out rotten and the bich was perfectly fine.

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