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Re: So, here's the thing . . . .

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:13 pm
by Elizabeth Brandegee
I would pursue more holistic work (constitutional homeopathy, cranial, getting in the sun, exercise, nature, meditation, spiritual/karmic clearing, bodytalk..) rather than too much 'natural allopathic' approach, like Dr. Sircus promotes. I respect his work and there is validity to some areas but there is a limit to what hinges on those concepts. As most allopathic treatment, it can 'help' but often doesn't seem to get to the root of the problem.
Proper diet & supplementation is also very important, and Irene & others gave some great outlines.. but there is also most likely something deeper that must be reached, healed and balanced.

:) Liz
---In minutus@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
The difference between old and elderly is magnesium. I am just old trying to avoid elderly. I checked your suggestions; none of them seem to apply. You should know that there are a lot of old people doing this magnesium painting thingie. I could never have thought of this on my own: http://drsircus.com/medicine/magnesium/

Roger
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: pogman9999999@...
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 21:46:16 +0000
Subject: [Minutus] Re: So, here's the thing . . . .

HI Roger

Some thoughts for you..

On top of the homeopathic remedy have you investigated IF there is something in your environment/food sources/genetics etc that maybe causing you to excrete more magnesium than usual or possibly it is not being assimilated by the body. examples below...this is copied and pasted for you...

check here ...http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/m ... magnesium/

Zinc....."High doses of zinc in supplemental form apparently interfere with the absorption of magnesium. One study reported that zinc supplements of 142 mg/day in healthy adult males significantly decreased magnesium absorption and disrupted magnesium balance (the difference between magnesium intake and magnesium loss) (4)."

check here and many other places...
http://divinehealthfromtheinsideout.com ... -the-body/

"Also an excess of certain minerals in the body can antagonize other minerals and cause depletion. For example, excess sodium depletes potassium. Excess calcium depletes magnesium by dominating over it. Too much of one will dominate the other. Iron and copper need to be in the right proportion and work together. They are co-factors. Potassium deficiency it's not enough to just take potassium, you also need magnesium. Potassium inside the cell needs magnesium to maintain it. Copper/zinc – copper tells the body to retain estrogen. Copper toxicity is commonly known in hyperactive violent individuals. It is a primary cause of miscarriages and susceptibility to postpartum depression."

So look to see if you might be inadvertently taking a supplement or from your environment to cause you to not retain magnesium or lose it or not have the ability to assimilate it.

Best Wishes Domenic

Re: So, here's the thing . . . .

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:37 pm
by Roger B
I find this to be obvious, but it takes me a few days of painting myself excessively to realize that there is something wrong with my whole system that is not utilizing and processing magnesium etc. properly.

I will be off to my community acupuncturist in a few minutes. (:->) And when I get home, I will be calling my homeopath. (:->)

I already tried supplementing with B vites and it is working. I need far less magnesium and it stays with me better.

Roger
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: lightspirals@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 07:13:10 -0800
Subject: RE: RE: [Minutus] Re: So, here's the thing . . . .
I would pursue more holistic work (constitutional homeopathy, cranial, getting in the sun, exercise, nature, meditation, spiritual/karmic clearing, bodytalk..) rather than too much 'natural allopathic' approach, like Dr. Sircus promotes. I respect his work and there is validity to some areas but there is a limit to what hinges on those concepts. As most allopathic treatment, it can 'help' but often doesn't seem to get to the root of the problem.
Proper diet & supplementation is also very important, and Irene & others gave some great outlines.. but there is also most likely something deeper that must be reached, healed and balanced.

:) Liz
---In minutus@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
The difference between old and elderly is magnesium. I am just old trying to avoid elderly. I checked your suggestions; none of them seem to apply. You should know that there are a lot of old people doing this magnesium painting thingie. I could never have thought of this on my own: http://drsircus.com/medicine/magnesium/

Roger
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: pogman9999999@...
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 21:46:16 +0000
Subject: [Minutus] Re: So, here's the thing . . . .

HI Roger

Some thoughts for you..

On top of the homeopathic remedy have you investigated IF there is something in your environment/food sources/genetics etc that maybe causing you to excrete more magnesium than usual or possibly it is not being assimilated by the body. examples below...this is copied and pasted for you...

check here ...http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/m ... magnesium/

Zinc....."High doses of zinc in supplemental form apparently interfere with the absorption of magnesium. One study reported that zinc supplements of 142 mg/day in healthy adult males significantly decreased magnesium absorption and disrupted magnesium balance (the difference between magnesium intake and magnesium loss) (4)."

check here and many other places...
http://divinehealthfromtheinsideout.com ... -the-body/

"Also an excess of certain minerals in the body can antagonize other minerals and cause depletion. For example, excess sodium depletes potassium. Excess calcium depletes magnesium by dominating over it. Too much of one will dominate the other. Iron and copper need to be in the right proportion and work together. They are co-factors. Potassium deficiency it's not enough to just take potassium, you also need magnesium. Potassium inside the cell needs magnesium to maintain it. Copper/zinc – copper tells the body to retain estrogen. Copper toxicity is commonly known in hyperactive violent individuals. It is a primary cause of miscarriages and susceptibility to postpartum depression."

So look to see if you might be inadvertently taking a supplement or from your environment to cause you to not retain magnesium or lose it or not have the ability to assimilate it.

Best Wishes Domenic

Re: So, here's the thing . . . .

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:23 am
by Healthseeker
So here's the thing... nothing is simpler: Roger should be reading the Organon, so he can finally understand that homeopathy is largely like a mathematical equation. You just have to learn the parts and how to apply them. Then, like Sheri said, he wouldn't have to be running himself ragged trying twenty different things. All I ever use are homeopathy and other energy applications (which homeopathy is one too, incidentally). No need (or desire) to go to doctors, acupuncturists, chiropractors, or any other such stuff. Notice the symptoms and, more importantly the modalities associated with them, and you are on your way. It's a learning and observing curve, but it's fun to do and supremely satisfying in its outcomes. No need for anything else.
Agi
---In minutus@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Let's teach Roger more about homeopathy and it being about the symptom picture and not trying to figure so many things out. There are maintaining factors that may be part of it, but I tried for years to 'figure out' my migraines - changing my diet, place I lived, chiropractic, acupuncture - I thought about it till I was nuts. But homeopathy and 1 remedy and 1 month later, I was cured.
Sheri

At 03:54 PM 11/6/2013, you wrote:
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So, here's the thing . . . .

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:09 pm
by Roger B
And what about nutritional deficiencies inherent in our food supply that did not exist in 1810? This is the problem that I have encountered; otherwise I am doing as you suggest.

Roger
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: falconti@together.net
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 20:23:50 -0800
Subject: [Minutus] RE: So, here's the thing . . . .
So here's the thing... nothing is simpler: Roger should be reading the Organon, so he can finally understand that homeopathy is largely like a mathematical equation. You just have to learn the parts and how to apply them. Then, like Sheri said, he wouldn't have to be running himself ragged trying twenty different things. All I ever use are homeopathy and other energy applications (which homeopathy is one too, incidentally). No need (or desire) to go to doctors, acupuncturists, chiropractors, or any other such stuff. Notice the symptoms and, more importantly the modalities associated with them, and you are on your way. It's a learning and observing curve, but it's fun to do and supremely satisfying in its outcomes. No need for anything else.
Agi