Minutus

Hi List member,
can you describe what and how you give remedy (or remedies) before and after
a tooth extraction?
also, what would you give for strong pain and BLEEDING after tooth extraction?
what do you think about what Vithoulkas said about Arnica that it isnot suitable in this situation as Arnica makes the blood thin?
many thanks in advance.
Rafy

I always use Arnica 30 just before to deal with any shock, Arnica 200
after alternating with Hypericum 200 if needed for pain. Any problem
from the aesthetic or bleeding can be dealt with using Phosphorous 30

I make sure that the Arnica is given just before the operation no
sooner and I think this stops any problems with making blood thinner if
this problem does actually exist!!

Rochelle

Registered Homeopath
EFT (Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

Arnica should not be given before any operation. It may increase bleeding. Always afterwards.
A few weeks ago I had to have a wisdom tooth extracted and because it had curved roots, it was done under general anaesthetic.
I really woke up when we pulled up outside our house and soon went to bed and slept some more.
I then woke up a couple of hours with incredible pain. I took my one and only Arnica 30 and the pain completely stopped after less than 10 minutes.
Best wishes

Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rochelle
Sent: 14 August 2013 12:03
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] before and after a TOOTH EXTRACTION
I always use Arnica 30 just before to deal with any shock, Arnica 200
after alternating with Hypericum 200 if needed for pain. Any problem
from the aesthetic or bleeding can be dealt with using Phosphorous 30

I make sure that the Arnica is given just before the operation no
sooner and I think this stops any problems with making blood thinner if
this problem does actually exist!!

Rochelle

Registered Homeopath
EFT (Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

I had someone with a hemorrhaging after an extraction. Not being
local they were able to get phos 30c and 200c which stopped the
bleeding momentarily. I think this person needed a 1M or 10M.
Ultimately, I recommended packing the wound with cayenne pepper
which worked very quickly despite being unpleasant.
t
From: Rochelle
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:02 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] before and after a TOOTH EXTRACTION

I always use Arnica 30 just before to deal with any shock, Arnica 200
after alternating with Hypericum 200 if needed for pain. Any problem
from the aesthetic or bleeding can be dealt with using Phosphorous 30

I make sure that the Arnica is given just before the operation no
sooner and I think this stops any problems with making blood thinner if
this problem does actually exist!!

Rochelle

Registered Homeopath
EFT (Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

I forgot to add that after the Arnica I had no bleeding!

Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tamarque
Sent: 14 August 2013 13:30
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] before and after a TOOTH EXTRACTION
I had someone with a hemorrhaging after an extraction. Not being

local they were able to get phos 30c and 200c which stopped the

bleeding momentarily. I think this person needed a 1M or 10M.

Ultimately, I recommended packing the wound with cayenne pepper

which worked very quickly despite being unpleasant.
t
From: Rochelle

Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:02 AM

To: minutus@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [Minutus] before and after a TOOTH EXTRACTION
I always use Arnica 30 just before to deal with any shock, Arnica 200
after alternating with Hypericum 200 if needed for pain. Any problem
from the aesthetic or bleeding can be dealt with using Phosphorous 30

I make sure that the Arnica is given just before the operation no
sooner and I think this stops any problems with making blood thinner if
this problem does actually exist!!

Rochelle

Registered Homeopath
EFT (Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

I, too, have had good results after gum surgery - no existing disease but just a prophylactic measure in one spot - with Hypericum 30c alone. I would use Arnica as well after any deep disturbance that causes bruising. I agree that Phos will handle excess hemorrhaging.

ginny

All stunts performed without a net!

Hi,

Thank you all very much for your very helpful replies.

Regards.

Rafy

ב-14 באוג 2013, בשעה 18:31, ginny wilken > כתב/ה:

I don't know why that old wives tale is still going around.

I consider it the other way round - NO surgery should be done without arnica beforehand.
A SINGLE dose will not increase or cause bleeding, and it WILL prevent any shock, which is a much higher risk with any anesthetic (especially general anesthesia).

[I base this on daily use of Arnica in practice at a vet clinic for about 5 or 6 surgeries a day, 6 days a week for 2 years. I'll leave the math to you...Not one death in that time, whereas without Arnica the death from surgery complications is 1 or 2%. ALso no bleeding issues of course.]
It does not if you dose once.
It may if you dose ten times before surgery
Then too.
But more important before surgery.

As for bleeding, if anything, a single dose of Arnica prevents it.
However mistakes happen (with the surgical knife) and if bleeding occurs, the quickest and most effective first aid is calendula tincture on a pressure bandage. For example if a tooth extraction area bleeds profusely, put calendula on a gauze wad or some such thing and place it over the area and bite on it a while.
As long as a blood vessel is not cut lengthways significantly, that will stop even quite severe bleeding VERY fast.
Hope you never have a next time but if someone did, and had only one 30C Arnica, I'd make it aqueous and take a sip before and after surgery, it may skip the pain altogether.

I know about curved roots too, mine had gone diving under the roots of other molars. I STILL have a piece of broken dental tool in there 40 years later.... I do not know why they call such teeth "wise"

Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Hi Irene,
Thanks for the reply.
How much time (in minutes) before the exraction should the Arnica be taken?
Regards.
Rafy

I suspect they are called wisdom teeth due to the time they come in—at an age of supposed wisdom
in growing up
t
From: Irene de Villiers
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 5:03 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] before and after a TOOTH EXTRACTION
I don't know why that old wives tale is still going around.

I consider it the other way round - NO surgery should be done without arnica beforehand.
A SINGLE dose will not increase or cause bleeding, and it WILL prevent any shock, which is a much higher risk with any anesthetic (especially general anesthesia).

[I base this on daily use of Arnica in practice at a vet clinic for about 5 or 6 surgeries a day, 6 days a week for 2 years. I'll leave the math to you...Not one death in that time, whereas without Arnica the death from surgery complications is 1 or 2%. ALso no bleeding issues of course.]
It does not if you dose once.
It may if you dose ten times before surgery
Then too.
But more important before surgery.

As for bleeding, if anything, a single dose of Arnica prevents it.
However mistakes happen (with the surgical knife) and if bleeding occurs, the quickest and most effective first aid is calendula tincture on a pressure bandage. For example if a tooth extraction area bleeds profusely, put calendula on a gauze wad or some such thing and place it over the area and bite on it a while.
As long as a blood vessel is not cut lengthways significantly, that will stop even quite severe bleeding VERY fast.
Hope you never have a next time but if someone did, and had only one 30C Arnica, I'd make it aqueous and take a sip before and after surgery, it may skip the pain altogether.

I know about curved roots too, mine had gone diving under the roots of other molars. I STILL have a piece of broken dental tool in there 40 years later.... I do not know why they call such teeth "wise"

Namaste,
Irene

REPLY TO: only
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."