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				tietze
				Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:45 am
				by Hennie Duits
				No one?
			 
			
					
				Re: tietze
				Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:58 am
				by Jean Doherty
				http://tinyurl.com/yeh27ha  
I have had a woman in high 80's with this.
It seemed to come and go much worse with any pressure.
I believe that a few  doses of Hecla Lava 200c and Ruta Grav 30c given more frequently helped ? use water doses..  Also advised the combination 5 cell salts.   It did return but to a lesser extent and firing a bra that exerted no pressure on area helped,  Jean
 
			 
			
					
				Re: tietze
				Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:15 am
				by szokia
				Hennie,
It would be better if you could give us the whole picture, rather than just the label. It's always way more useful to know unusual symptoms and/or modalities accompanying a given "condition". Much better chance at getting the correct remedy for the individual situation, than going the "aspirin for a headache" general route which, at best, tends to be just palliative, if that.
Agi
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minutus@yahoogroups.com, Hennie Duits  wrote:
 
			 
			
					
				Re: tietze
				Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:34 am
				by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
				What do you need?
It is an inflammation of the sternal joint (and by extension of the sterno-costal joints) causing pain that can be confused with angina pectoris or infarction pain....otherwise it a joint inflammation like any other...
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind". 
www.naturamedica.webs.com 
			 
			
					
				Re: tietze
				Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:19 am
				by Hennie Duits
				Well, I sort of hoped for something like a psychological background, 
like - it is about the chest, and it is hindering taking in a lot of 
air, and you might say that Tietze persons, for some reason, do not take 
enough air/room for themselves. Some sort of oppresssion going on, from 
the outside or from within - that's the sort of stuff I was hoping for.
Hennie
Op 14-8-2013 3:34, Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. schreef:
			 
			
					
				Re: tietze
				Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:56 am
				by Soroush Ebrahimi
				What - Theorizing??
			 
			
					
				Re: tietze
				Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:45 am
				by Hennie Duits
				Right!
Op 14-8-2013 10:56, 
finrod@finrod.co.uk schreef:
 
			 
			
					
				Re: tietze
				Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:56 am
				by Jean Doherty
				Well my case was a very feisty 88 years old and it appeared to me purely a physical problem,  jean
			 
			
					
				Re: tietze
				Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:05 pm
				by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
				You might be right in individuals who already present with an 
inflammatory process of joints in general AND have this type  of mental 
situation that then determines a local focus on this specific 
joint.....but personally I would not go the opposite way, describing 
Tietze as being CAUSED by M/E problems....
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed 
mind". 
www.naturamedica.webs.com 
			 
			
					
				Re: tietze
				Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:04 am
				by Tanya Marquette
				Why not Joe?  M/E stresses can certainly change the terrain and
cause/contribute to inflammatory processes in the body.
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