Minutus

and of course honey is natures first fermented food and in my oppinion the best natural sweetener. i also grow stevia but i typically use a mix of the two to mask the bitter after taste of the stevia.
although a big WARNING here. Do Not buy honey off the shelf. even organic raw honey unless you can call the number that is suppose to be on the bottle and ask these three questions.
1- what do you feed your bees?

2- What do you use to treat the hive for pests?
3- What types of antibiotics do you use?
if they have any answer other than NOTHING then don't buy it. for one, you are supporting an industry that is hurting the honeybee population, second, you are probably buying a mix of honey, fermented sugar syrup and pesticides/antibiotics. This is not the honey that has been know to humans for thousands of years with all the medicinal and health benefits.
most commercial and smaller scale beekeepers feed their bees sugar syrups to boost production. if it is not labeled organic it is most likely GMO HFCS. Organic beekeepers are allowed to use organic sugars. Also, they feed their bees a pollen substitute that is a mixture of soy flour (90% GMO), dairy protein (casien) and egg yolk with a small amount of pollen.
if you use honey or other products from the hive, find a treatment free beekeeper. and question them. and buy only raw unfiltered honey. this is the honey that all old health books refer to.

vicki
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From: lightspirals
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 10:38 AM
Subject: [Minutus] Re: Additives in food
And there are so many additives/poisons to dodge these days we as practitioners need to educate.

Nice work on finding out about the sweeteners, Christine. I'm still amazed though at how many people do not know about this issue.

Good alternatives are organic stevia (don't suggest 'sweet leaf' brand or others with additives) and perhaps coconut sugar.
Best wishes,
Liz

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com , Christine Thomas wrote:

thanks for consolidating this information Vicki.
I always look for raw honey but neglect to ask about the hive practices
as I do with organic produce.
Yesterday at the farmer’s market a bee keeper was there with his honey.
It looked so light and filtered. I tasted his 3 varieties and they were all
like liquid sugar. Even the dark buckwheat honey was not natural tasting
to me. I did not buy. Your notes ring true to this experience as the use
of chemical and GE food will show up in the final product.
t
From: vicki h
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:22 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: Additives in food - HONEY

and of course honey is natures first fermented food and in my oppinion the best natural sweetener. i also grow stevia but i typically use a mix of the two to mask the bitter after taste of the stevia.
although a big WARNING here. Do Not buy honey off the shelf. even organic raw honey unless you can call the number that is suppose to be on the bottle and ask these three questions.
1- what do you feed your bees?

2- What do you use to treat the hive for pests?
3- What types of antibiotics do you use?
if they have any answer other than NOTHING then don't buy it. for one, you are supporting an industry that is hurting the honeybee population, second, you are probably buying a mix of honey, fermented sugar syrup and pesticides/antibiotics. This is not the honey that has been know to humans for thousands of years with all the medicinal and health benefits.
most commercial and smaller scale beekeepers feed their bees sugar syrups to boost production. if it is not labeled organic it is most likely GMO HFCS. Organic beekeepers are allowed to use organic sugars. Also, they feed their bees a pollen substitute that is a mixture of soy flour (90% GMO), dairy protein (casien) and egg yolk with a small amount of pollen.
if you use honey or other products from the hive, find a treatment free beekeeper. and question them. and buy only raw unfiltered honey. this is the honey that all old health books refer to.

vicki
Join the Campaign to Label GMO's in Florida
We have the Right to Know what is in our Food!
http://www.LabelGMOFlorida.com
Like us @ Label GMO Florida
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"Gluten Free Yummies"
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________________________________

From: lightspirals
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 10:38 AM
Subject: [Minutus] Re: Additives in food

And there are so many additives/poisons to dodge these days we as practitioners need to educate.

Nice work on finding out about the sweeteners, Christine. I'm still amazed though at how many people do not know about this issue.

Good alternatives are organic stevia (don't suggest 'sweet leaf' brand or others with additives) and perhaps coconut sugar.
Best wishes,
Liz

--- In mailto:minutus%40yahoogroups.com, Christine Thomas wrote:

the longer i keep bees the more i find out about the industry as a whole and it makes me sick. i go to the local bee keepers meeting and try to tell them how wrong these practices are but they fight me on everything. this is how they are taught and no one is changing their minds. i will tell you, if it is truly treatment free it will be more expensive. the main reason is that more honey is left for the bees. the reason other who feed their bees sugar syrups can charge less is they take everything and just feed the bees crap to keep them going. of course bees don't just eat on the run, they take it back to the hive and store it. so this is what they harvest from the hive. it completely throws off the pH balance of the bees making them sick and weak. which is one of the many reasons bees are having such a hard time right now. nectars which they would normally collect for honey is more like pH 4 while syrups are around pH 7. this alters the enzymes and bacteria the bees put into the nectar that helps ferment and condense it into honey. so what you are buying is nothing like real honey.
vicki
Join the Campaign to Label GMO's in Florida
We have the Right to Know what is in our Food!
http://www.LabelGMOFlorida.com
Like us @ Label GMO Florida
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"Gluten Free Yummies"
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From: tamarque
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: Additives in food - HONEY
thanks for consolidating this information Vicki.
I always look for raw honey but neglect to ask about the hive practices
as I do with organic produce.
Yesterday at the farmer’s market a bee keeper was there with his honey.
It looked so light and filtered. I tasted his 3 varieties and they were all
like liquid sugar. Even the dark buckwheat honey was not natural tasting
to me. I did not buy. Your notes ring true to this experience as the use
of chemical and GE food will show up in the final product.
t
From: vicki h
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:22 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: Additives in food - HONEY
and of course honey is natures first fermented food and in my oppinion the best natural sweetener. i also grow stevia but i typically use a mix of the two to mask the bitter after taste of the stevia.
although a big WARNING here. Do Not buy honey off the shelf. even organic raw honey unless you can call the number that is suppose to be on the bottle and ask these three questions.
1- what do you feed your bees?

2- What do you use to treat the hive for pests?
3- What types of antibiotics do you use?
if they have any answer other than NOTHING then don't buy it. for one, you are supporting an industry that is hurting the honeybee population, second, you are probably buying a mix of honey, fermented sugar syrup and pesticides/antibiotics. This is not the honey that has been know to humans for thousands of years with all the medicinal and health benefits.
most commercial and smaller scale beekeepers feed their bees sugar syrups to boost production. if it is not labeled organic it is most likely GMO HFCS. Organic beekeepers are allowed to use organic sugars. Also, they feed their bees a pollen substitute that is a mixture of soy flour (90% GMO), dairy protein (casien) and egg yolk with a small amount of pollen.
if you use honey or other products from the hive, find a treatment free beekeeper. and question them. and buy only raw unfiltered honey. this is the honey that all old health books refer to.

vicki
Join the Campaign to Label GMO's in Florida
We have the Right to Know what is in our Food!
http://www.LabelGMOFlorida.com
Like us @ Label GMO Florida
on Fac ebook and Twitter

"Gluten Free Yummies"
www.GlutenFreeYummies.com

888-Yo-Yummy

________________________________

From: lightspirals
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 10:38 AM
Subject: [Minutus] Re: Additives in food

And there are so many additives/poisons to dodge these days we as practitioners need to educate.

Nice work on finding out about the sweeteners, Christine. I'm still amazed though at how many people do not know about this issue.

Good alternatives are organic stevia (don't suggest 'sweet leaf' brand or others with additives) and perhaps coconut sugar.
Best wishes,
Liz

--- In mailto:minutus%40yahoogroups.com, Christine Thomas wrote: