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Homeopaths become as one (was UK - MEASLES HITS THE HEADLINES AGAIN)

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:38 am
by Victoria Mashevsky
Apparently - and it was news to me - a cunsumer of chiropractic service - there are more than 160 ways a chiropractor can practice. Somehow they were able to keep uniform front for the public while disagreeing with each other on whose methods are Holier-than-thou behind the scenes. Now, I cought myself in a bit of hypocracy, thinking - why can't homeoathy be like that while remembering my own recent posts expressing dismay at combo sales. SO, yet, why homeopathy can not replicate the solid front of chiropractors?
V

Re: Homeopaths become as one (was UK - MEASLES HITS THE HEADLINES AGAIN)

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:50 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
There are as many ways to practice anything as there are practitioners!

And there are way too many swollen egos who would rather become extinct than accept a difference while disagreeing with it if that is what really tickles their G spots......

Joe, fully pissed off with that universal nonsensical self- destructive attitude.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind". www.naturamedica.webs.com

Re: Homeopaths become as one (was UK - MEASLES HITS THE HEADLINES AGAIN)

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:55 am
by Shannon Nelson
A very good parallel, Victoria!
Yes, they managed to find a unified front, and it has served them very well, amen!!

Re: Homeopaths become as one (was UK - MEASLES HITS THE HEADLINES AGAIN)

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:02 am
by Vera Resnick
Chiming in with Sheri on this one...
Homoeopathy is a medical therapeutic based on skillful manipulation of the Law of Similars using proven substances to ensure scientific soundness and a technique that can be reproduced over and over again. This is all homoeopathy has - without this basic principle, homoeopaths are prescribing according to trial and error and clinical experience just like modern medicine. But not everyone sees it that way. Modern homoeopathy bears much more similarity to the Doctrine of Signatures, than to the Law of Similars. And in so many explanations of homoeopathy by "leading homoeopaths" - the Law of Similars is not even mentioned.
Because of the numbers game, those of us who do practice based on the principle as defined by Hahnemann are in a clear minority (and I wish more would come out of the woodwork!) and are in danger of being outlawed by our own profession, as more and more schools and state certification boards require knowledge of modern methods which do not base themselves on use of accurately proven substances and clear symptom similarity. To anyone with some familiarity with ancient homoeopathy history this may sound familiar.
So with all the best will in the world - and I do believe that many modern homoeopaths do have the best of intentions and are very dedicated in their practice - apart from general support for freedom of choice in health issues as suggested by Sheri, how exactly can we "hang together"?
Vera
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Re: Homeopaths become as one (was UK - MEASLES HITS THE HEADLINES AGAIN)

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:41 am
by healthinfo6
There's an anti-miasmatic nosode for that. ;)
Susan

Re: Homeopaths become as one (was UK - MEASLES HITS THE HEADLINES AGAIN)

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:42 am
by healthinfo6
Yes, and chiropractors are probably the worst abusers of homeopathy, many sell combos made by Vaxa and another brand from Italy to supplement their income.
Susan

Re: Homeopaths become as one (was UK - MEASLES HITS THE HEADLINES AGAIN)

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:06 am
by Athanasios Razis
Hahnemann never compromised, Socrates did not, Edward Bach (flower essences) did not and the list can go on and on... DId not they all afraid that this might have consequences-in many cases there where! Maybe not, because they new that they where doing the right thing, or maybe they did but still stayed true to their beliefs regardless... I agree with people who say that they can not compromise but not out of a big ego as some insultingly accused us (which only targets to create a kind of misplaced guilt) but out of respect and desire to follow the ethics of certain human beings that i have chosen to look up to for their ethics and believes. They where ALONE and they made it through controversy and opposition. If now hundreds of us or even thousands can not make it work then maybe we need to start looking for other things to do...

Furthermore my personal belief is that if Homeopathy survived throughout it's first troublesome years it was because it was affective and not because of advertisement, marketing etc... but because of the conviction and amazing results practitioners had ( that was their advertisement). I feel that Homeopathic level has dropped a lot and this is what has mainly caused the problems for Homeopathy. It took Hahnemann 10 years to come up with his miasmatic theory before he decided to release it and now people do a 3 year course and come up with a variety of Homeopathic practice which they also advertise to others and are quite passionate about it... (talking about ego). I remember a case of a doctor who had to appear in front of a disciplinary board cause a child died. She dowsed for the homeopathic remedy that the child needed. This is the kind of Homeopathy i should be fighting for and "hang together"?

Anyhow this is personal belief and opinion and PERHAPS some other Homeopaths like myself who refuse to "hang together" in this whole situation share all, some or even none :) of the above.

Anyway have a nice day everyone.
Thanos

Re: Homeopaths become as one (was UK - MEASLES HITS THE HEADLINES AGAIN)

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:23 am
by Angela McGuire
I would like to learn how to create homeopathic remedies. Is there a lab that teaches this?
Angie

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Re: Homeopaths become as one (was UK - MEASLES HITS THE HEADLINES AGAIN)

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:54 am
by domenicstanghini
FWIW....We are not going to agree on this topic and thats the problem...there is no unified front....so the Homeopathic "unified" disease lingers on EACH Homeopathic practitioner as they are still stuck in a Collective unconsious miasm.

And I am NOT picking on any religion for good or bad.....If one goes to wikipedia and searchs Hinduism or Buddhism we find that their are many different ways to practice religion and they all live together with one another beside one another supporting the others path as unique. their apparent differences are tolerated as each one has a natural inclination to practice "enlightenment" based on their natural proclivity. there is no condemnation of their unique path. Add to this the many different ways to practice Christianity and there are many, many ways. Add to this the many different ways to practice Yoga, Martial Arts, Meditation etc. etc. etc. All of them have one thing in common. They (as Dr. Joe says) check their ego at the door. the ego fractures and divides and separates. Oneness embraces all. Homeopaths as humans need to learn the lessons that others have learned, like those mentioned above, the chiropractors etc.....to have a unified front. However, under the Homeopathic umbrellas there are many purist differences.

So we want to treat unique individuals using unique medicines and yet we want to DENY others that have somehow found a unique way to use homeopathic medicines in a unique way (muscle testing, multiple remedies, drainage, combos, doc of signatures etc etc)??? Coming together is the answer not separating, denying, fragmenting.

Best Wishes to all Domenic
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Re: Homeopaths become as one (was UK - MEASLES HITS THE HEADLINES AGAIN)

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:11 pm
by Shannon Nelson
? Of the handful I have worked with thru the years, one did indeed use some of what we might call combos (Apex and etc.), tho they are more technically called (including on the label) homeotherapeutics. He used them very well, BTW, to excellent effect, with a truly awesome muscle testing method.

But all of that is of course is completely irrelevant to the conversation…
Or maybe you're making a point that I'm missing, about the value of supporting each other while we and our "freedoms" are all under attack?