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UK - MEASLES HITS THE HEADLINES AGAIN

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:59 pm
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MEASLES HITS THE HEADLINES AGAIN

By Magda Taylor, editor of The Informed Parent. April 2013

We are now experiencing yet another outbreak of measles and MMR propaganda via the media, resulting in a lot of parents becoming fearful and worried as to whether they should allow their children to receive the MMR.

In all the years I have been looking into the subject I have observed so many of these measles scares - they seem to be more regular than the measles outbreaks themselves.

It is extremely difficult to get any balanced information out in the public arena and the radio and TV coverages are almost all very biased. For example, on Tuesday 9th April I was invited to participate in a morning programme for BBC RadioScotland as one of the guests. This turned out to be a most frustrating experience as apart from a short intro earlier in the programme I had to sit through around half an hour's worth of discussion without being able to contribute. The doctor and bacteriologist that had also been invited on were given the opportunity to respond to the various callers on the programme whilst I was left on the line not being able to give an alternative comment. Finally, right at the end of the slot I was suddenly invited to speak again. Knowing that I was going to be cut off at any time I attempted to try and make as many points as I could, which is not ideal as there was not enough time to give proper explanation. This is typical of how most of these programmes are broadcast these days, in fact, it more common now not to invite any guests that will be challenging the present established views. Back in the 1990s The Informed Parent, JABS and other vaccination researchers were given much more opportunity to get involved with some healthy discussion on the subject. This is certainly not the case these days.

Measles is being described in such a scary way at the moment it is no wonder parents are running scared.

Here is an example of how measles was described back in 1959, nine years before a measles vaccine was introduced in theUK. I have also taken extracts from a few doctors describing their experiences of measles at that time. This paints a very, very different picture of the disease compared to the ones we are being given at the moment. I have highlighted some of the more significant comments in bold type.

Measles Epidemic

Taken from: BMJ, Feb 7 1959, page 354

In the first three weeks of this year about 41,000 cases of measles were recorded inEnglandandWales. This is well above the corresponding figures of the last two years-namely, about 9,000 in 1958 and 28,000 in 1957 -though it is below the highest levels reached in the last nine years. To give some idea of the main features of the disease as it appears to-day and of how it is best treated, we invited some general practitioners to write short reports on the cases they have seen in their practices recently.

These appear at p.380 (extracts from this page follow this article). It is interesting to note, first, that the distribution of the disease is rather patchy at present. It has not yet reached the areas where two of these doctors practise (in South Scotland andCornwall), and other areas are known to be free of the disease so far. On the other hand, inKentit is reported to have arrived in time to put the children to bed over Christmas. These writers agree that measles is nowadays normally a mild infection, and they rarely have occasion to give prophylactic gamma globulin. As to the treatment of the disease and its complications, the emphasis naturally varies from one practice to another. Amount of bed-rest, when to administer a sulphonamide or antibiotic, the use of analgesics and linctuses-all these may still be debatable problems in the treatment of what is said to be the commonest disease in the world. But there is probably much in the opinion which one of the writers expresses: "It is the frequent visiting by the interested clinician and not the therapy which produces the good results."

MEASLES
REPORTS FROM GENERAL PRACTITIONERS
BMJ February 7 1959, Page 380

EXTRACTS

We are much indebted to the general practitioners whose names appear below for the following notes on the present outbreak of measles.

Dr G. R. WATSON (Peaslake,Surrey) writes: Measles was introduced just before Christmas by a child from Petworth...Treatment of Attack.-No drugs are given for either the fever or the cough; if pressed, I dispense mist. salin. B.N.F. as a placebo. Glutethimide 125 mg. may be given in the afternoon if the child is restless when the rash develops; 250 mg. in single or divided doses at bedtime ensures a good night's sleep in spite of coughing. I encourage a warm humid atmosphere in the room by various methods: some electric fires and most electric toasters allow an open pan of water to rest on top; an electric kettle blows off too much steam to be kept on for more than short periods. Parents, conscious of the need to darken the room and to forbid reading, may carry this to an unnecessary extreme, starting even before the rash appears. To save a mother some demands, the wireless is a boon to children in darkened rooms. They are allowed up when the rash fades from the abdomen-usually the fourth or fifth day-and may go outside on the next fine day. Apart from fruit to eat.solid food is avoided on the day the rash is appearing; fruit drinks or soups are all they appear to want. Complications.-So far few complications have arisen. Four cases of otitis media occurred in the first 25 children, but only one had pain. No case of pneumonia has occurred, but one child had grossly abnormal signs in the chest for a few days after the fever subsided, uninfluenced by oral penicillin. One girl had a tear-duct infection and another an undue blepharitis. Of three adult males with the disease, two have been more severely affected than any of the children.Dr. R. E. HOPE STMPSON (Cirencester, Glos) writes: We make no attempt to prevent the spread of measles, and would only use gamma globulin to mitigate the severity of the disease in the case of the exposure of a susceptible adult or child who is already severely debilitated. Bed rest, for seven davs for moderate and severe cases and of five to six days in mild cases, seems to cut down the incidence of such complications as secondary bacterial otitis media and bronchopneumonia. We have not been impressed by the prophylactic or therapeutic use of antibiotics and sulphonamides in the first week of the disease. As soon as the patient is out of bed we allow him out of doors almost regardless of the weather. Otitis Media and Bronchopneumonia.-These conditions often appear so early, sometimes even before the rash, that in such cases one can only conclude that the responsible agent is the virus itself. Despite their initial alarming severity, they tend to resolve spontaneously, and treatment apart from first principles seems useless. When, on the other hand, otitis media or bronchopneumonia comes on after the subsidence of the initial symptoms of measles, it is probably due to a secondary bacterial invader, and we find antibiotics or sulphonamides useful...

MILD AILMENT
Dr. JOHN FRY (Beckenham,Kent) writes: The expected biennial epidemic of measles appeared in this region in early December, 1958, just in time to put many youngsters to bed over Christmas. To date there have been close on 150 cases in the practice, and the numbers are now steadily decreasing. Like previous epidemics, the primary cases have been chiefly in the 5- and 6-year-olds, with secondary cases in their younger siblings. No special features have been noted in this relatively mild epidemic. It has been mild because complications have occurred in only four children. One little girl aged 2 suffered from a lobular pneumonia, and three others developed acute otitis media following their measles. In the majority of children the whole episode has been well and truly over in a week, from the prodromal phase to the disappearance of the rash, and many mothers have remarked " how much good the attack has done their children," as they seem so much better after the measles. A family doctor's approach to the management of measles is essentially a personal and individual matter, based on the personal experiences of the doctor and the individual character and background of the child and the family. In this practice measles is considered as a relatively mild and inevitable childhood ailment that is best encountered any time from 3 to 7 years of age. Over the past 10 years there have been few serious complications at any age, and all children have made complete recoveries. As a result of this reasoning no special attempts have been made at prevention even in young infants in whom the disease has not been found to be especially serious.
Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
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Re: UK - MEASLES HITS THE HEADLINES AGAIN

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:01 am
by Steve Scrutton
When we (as Homeopaths) say we don;t 'treat' measles, but treat people with measles, we give our opponents the entire field, largely because the ConMed view is dominant within the NHS, and dominates media news. When leading organisations respond to Denialists by saying we don't use prevention, we remove ourselves from the issue. The dominant medical, and media organisations do NOT look at the niceties that we are discussing. They just dismiss us.

There are several key points (as Magna's article so accurately reflects), and as I have tried to argue here http://safe-medicine.blogspot.co.uk/201 ... ansea.html is that a relatively simple illness (once and killer but no longer so) is being treated conventionally by a vaccine that is known to be dangerous, and is admitted to be dangerous by the Big Pharma manufacturers http://safe-medicine.blogspot.co.uk/201 ... d-big.html

To say that we can't do anything because the disease is 'notifiable' is another opt out, giving up the field to those attacking homeopathy (for their own vested interests), Only that means is that when we spot a case of measles, rather than just treating it we have a duty to notify the authorities. Actually, as most homeopaths are not medics (and so cannot diagnose illness - sic) we probably don't even have to do that!

We all have a responsibility to tell people what we believe, and what the evidence of our eyes, and our 200+ year experience tells us - that we can prevent / moderate / treat measles, and other infectious diseases, and that we can do so safely, and inexpensively. If we don't all do this our opposition will get stronger, and we weaken our own cause.

Steve Scrutton
Director, ARH
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Re: UK - MEASLES HITS THE HEADLINES AGAIN

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:52 am
by Rochelle
Has the ARH put out a statement Steve?
Rochelle
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Scrutton
When we (as Homeopaths) say we don;t 'treat' measles, but treat people with measles, we give our opponents the entire field, largely because the ConMed view is dominant within the NHS, and dominates media news. When leading organisations respond to Denialists by saying we don't use prevention, we remove ourselves from the issue. The dominant medical, and media organisations do NOT look at the niceties that we are discussing. They just dismiss us.
There are several key points (as Magna's article so accurately reflects), and as I have tried to argue here http://safe-medicine.blogspot.co.uk/201 ... ansea.html is that a relatively simple illness (once and killer but no longer so) is being treated conventionally by a vaccine that is known to be dangerous, and is admitted to be dangerous by the Big Pharma manufacturers http://safe-medicine.blogspot.co.uk/201 ... d-big.html
To say that we can't do anything because the disease is 'notifiable' is another opt out, giving up the field to those attacking homeopathy (for their own vested interests), Only that means is that when we spot a case of measles, rather than just treating it we have a duty to notify the authorities. Actually, as most homeopaths are not medics (and so cannot diagnose illness - sic) we probably don't even have to do that!
We all have a responsibility to tell people what we believe, and what the evidence of our eyes, and our 200+ year experience tells us - that we can prevent / moderate / treat measles, and other infectious diseases, and that we can do so safely, and inexpensively. If we don't all do this our opposition will get stronger, and we weaken our own cause.
Steve Scrutton

Director, ARH

steve@a-r-h.org
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Re: UK - MEASLES HITS THE HEADLINES AGAIN

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:40 am
by domenicstanghini
Hi Steve

Someone once said..."Evil Triumphs when good people do nothing"

Everyone needs to speak their truth. All Homeopaths from all "branches" need to become as one and DO SOMETHING. To do nothing invites extinction. To "in fight" is to fracture the homeopathic community and give them more firepower. The homeopathic community has to come together to Stand for the "good" or we end up sitting with ConMed by our silence and inaction.

My two cents. Domenic

Re: UK - MEASLES HITS THE HEADLINES AGAIN

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:53 am
by Tanya Marquette
In the late 19 c-early 20c women were banned from attending the new medical schools.
However, they were very involved in developing women’s medical schools. As a result,
we had a growing number of women practicing medicine. Homeopathy was a primary
protocol. Money for research and building and training was scarce, most of it going to
the chemically based schools. Instead of holding their ground, some of the women’s
leadership began to make alliances with the male controlled, chemical based schools.
Within very few years, all the women’s colleges were closed and all the women, who
were only token minorities on the boards of these male controlled schools, were forced
off the boards and out of the schools. Women disappeared from medicine for about
50 yrs until the women’s movement of the late 1960’s-70’s that made getting women
into the professions a significant goal.
I saw the same historic process with women in the labor movement.
And I fear that the same tendency exists in homeopathy where you have some people
who think that being legitimate means being accepted into the mainstream medical
circles. Unfortunately, history has also shown that if/when those who disagree remain
quiet, the deals get struck, the laws and rules get changed and suddenly, the homeopaths
will find themselves without a profession.
t
From: domenicstanghini
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:40 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Re: UK - MEASLES HITS THE HEADLINES AGAIN

Hi Steve

Someone once said..."Evil Triumphs when good people do nothing"

Everyone needs to speak their truth. All Homeopaths from all "branches" need to become as one and DO SOMETHING. To do nothing invites extinction. To "in fight" is to fracture the homeopathic community and give them more firepower. The homeopathic community has to come together to Stand for the "good" or we end up sitting with ConMed by our silence and inaction.

My two cents. Domenic

Re: UK - MEASLES HITS THE HEADLINES AGAIN

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:18 pm
by Christine Wyndham-Thomas
Yep.
Divide and conquer Shame on SoH.
Regards
Christine

Re: UK - MEASLES HITS THE HEADLINES AGAIN

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:27 pm
by Maria Bohle
Well said,

The economy is not very good, competition is going to get vicious, we must speak out but we also must keep ourselves out of trouble. We do not have the big dollars the pharmaceutical companies have, nor do we have the 'politicians' on our side. It is much too easy to create laws that can try to shut us down. Going underground is exactly what they will want us to do, we must be 'visible' but 'benign', we should speak our truth but gently.

Maybe we should work out what we want to say that we can all agree upon and then let the protocols do our talking.
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:53:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: UK - MEASLES HITS THE HEADLINES AGAIN
In the late 19 c-early 20c women were banned from attending the new medical schools.
However, they were very involved in developing women’s medical schools. As a result,
we had a growing number of women practicing medicine. Homeopathy was a primary
protocol. Money for research and building and training was scarce, most of it going to
the chemically based schools. Instead of holding their ground, some of the women’s
leadership began to make alliances with the male controlled, chemical based schools.
Within very few years, all the women’s colleges were closed and all the women, who
were only token minorities on the boards of these male controlled schools, were forced
off the boards and out of the schools. Women disappeared from medicine for about
50 yrs until the women’s movement of the late 1960’s-70’s that made getting women
into the professions a significant goal.
I saw the same historic process with women in the labor movement.
And I fear that the same tendency exists in homeopathy where you have some people
who think that being legitimate means being accepted into the mainstream medical
circles. Unfortunately, history has also shown that if/when those who disagree remain
quiet, the deals get struck, the laws and rules get changed and suddenly, the homeopaths
will find themselves without a profession.
t
From: domenicstanghini
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:40 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Re: UK - MEASLES HITS THE HEADLINES AGAIN

Hi Steve

Someone once said..."Evil Triumphs when good people do nothing"

Everyone needs to speak their truth. All Homeopaths from all "branches" need to become as one and DO SOMETHING. To do nothing invites extinction. To "in fight" is to fracture the homeopathic community and give them more firepower. The homeopathic community has to come together to Stand for the "good" or we end up sitting with ConMed by our silence and inaction.

My two cents. Domenic

Re: UK - MEASLES HITS THE HEADLINES AGAIN

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:39 am
by Steve Scrutton
We are discussing a statement at this very moment.

We know what our position is, and we don't believe in cosy-ing up to the ConMed Establishment in these matters.

But we don't want to divide the H community - we are regularly accused of this (!) - so it is a 'delicate' issue.

Steve Scrutton
Director, ARH
steve@a-r-h.org

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