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Healing is up to the Patient.
Most practitioners realize that the patient's mental & emotional state can make the crucial difference whether a treatment program is effective or not. It is import to realize that a treatment may produce different results in different people. A treatment may not work for a patient unless they “allow” it to work. The patient's state of mind, which includes his emotions and subconscious acceptance or resistance to healing, plays the main role in determining how successful the treatment will be for them. The type of therapy they receive may, in fact, play a secondary role. The ability to cure a disease rests solely with the patient.
Any existing or past trauma, sadness, depression, anger, or unresolved conflict may lead to unconscious programming of the patient to shut down their immune system. The various levels of trust and belief in the Practitioner and the treatment may be responsible for a wide range of responses witnessed by practitioners. A higher degree of trust can actually increase a placebo's effect from a 25% to a 75% efficacy.
The body's powerful healing mechanism was clearly demonstrated in a classic study of 3 groups of patients suffering from bleeding ulcers in their stomach. Each group of patients were told they were going to test for a new drug that could stop the bleeding. One group received a drug, the second group an inert placebo, and the third group was given a drug that increased bleeding. The results astounded the researchers. The bleeding stopped in all 3 groups. Could the third group's belief in this new wonder drug have been powerful enough to override the high toxicity of a bleed-inducing drug? Could the thoughts and feelings of hope and trust overcome and neutralize the toxic substance that was meant to induce bleeding? There a many experiments that show how important the patient's trust and the status of the practitioner in the mind of the patient. It suggests that a patient's interpretation of a given treatment determines the effect it will have on their lives.
There is no simple or magical method to make a patient believe in the treatment they receive. The success of even a placebo response depends mainly on the patient's psychological condition and whether they have a good reason to believe in their practitioner. Also if a patient believes that they deserve to be healed, the body & mind become more receptive to healing which is a two-way process, between patient and practitioner, but depends on the patient's receptivity.
The shift from a conventional doctor to an alternative doctor or to one who really cares, however, may not be sufficient to invoke a healing response. Exercising your will and desire to take your health into your own hands and to take responsibility for everything that happens in your life is perhaps the most powerful method of healing there is. Once you know what causes disease, you will be able to re-balance the situation and lay the foundation for optimal health.
Extracted from Andreas Moritz's book, “Timelss Secrets of Health & Rejuvenation”.
Bill Giman
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Bill,
This is a very interesting story you report. I have doubts about the placebo effect of the toxic drug, tho, and have to question the design, and
intent of the research group. As we know full well, so much medical research is blatantly designed and/or interpreted to prove the bias of the
funding source. I also have to question the ethics of giving a toxic drug that causes bleeding to people with bleeding ulcers to begin with.
And to the contrary, ulcers is a condition that is heavily associated with emotional states, so would this impart a particular bias in the study?
I do think that patient mindset can be a factor in the healing process. However, this implies to me that the practitioner needs to work on
creating a positive atmosphere with trust for the patient. Granted, some people’s pathology is very negative. However, homeopathy works
even with people who hold onto resistance in some manner. I do not think that the ability to cure a disease rests solely on the patient. If that
were so, then people should simply be told to go meditate and visualize their own health.
t
From: Bill Giman
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 6:22 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Healing is up to the patient

Healing is up to the Patient.
Most practitioners realize that the patient's mental & emotional state can make the crucial difference whether a treatment program is effective or not. It is import to realize that a treatment may produce different results in different people. A treatment may not work for a patient unless they “allow” it to work. The patient's state of mind, which includes his emotions and subconscious acceptance or resistance to healing, plays the main role in determining how successful the treatment will be for them. The type of therapy they receive may, in fact, play a secondary role. The ability to cure a disease rests solely with the patient.
Any existing or past trauma, sadness, depression, anger, or unresolved conflict may lead to unconscious programming of the patient to shut down their immune system. The various levels of trust and belief in the Practitioner and the treatment may be responsible for a wide range of responses witnessed by practitioners. A higher degree of trust can actually increase a placebo's effect from a 25% to a 75% efficacy.
The body's powerful healing mechanism was clearly demonstrated in a classic study of 3 groups of patients suffering from bleeding ulcers in their stomach. Each group of patients were told they were going to test for a new drug that could stop the bleeding. One group received a drug, the second group an inert placebo, and the third group was given a drug that increased bleeding. The results astounded the researchers. The bleeding stopped in all 3 groups. Could the third group's belief in this new wonder drug have been powerful enough to override the high toxicity of a bleed-inducing drug? Could the thoughts and feelings of hope and trust overcome and neutralize the toxic substance that was meant to induce bleeding? There a many experiments that show how important the patient's trust and the status of the practitioner in the mind of the patient. It suggests that a patient's interpretation of a given treatment determines the effect it will have on their lives.
There is no simple or magical method to make a patient believe in the treatment they receive. The success of even a placebo response depends mainly on the patient's psychological condition and whether they have a good reason to believe in their practitioner. Also if a patient believes that they deserve to be healed, the body & mind become more receptive to healing which is a two-way process, between patient and practitioner, but depends on the patient's receptivity.
The shift from a conventional doctor to an alternative doctor or to one who really cares, however, may not be sufficient to invoke a healing response. Exercising your will and desire to take your health into your own hands and to take responsibility for everything that happens in your life is perhaps the most powerful method of healing there is. Once you know what causes disease, you will be able to re-balance the situation and lay the foundation for optimal health.
Extracted from Andreas Moritz's book, “Timelss Secrets of Health & Rejuvenation”.
Bill Giman
____________________________________________________________
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I'd say this was written by someone knowing little, if anything, about
classical homeopathy.

Hennie

Op 6-4-2013 0:22, Bill Giman schreef:

So when we treat babies or animals, would they know what is given to them?
At the same time the "you can take the horse to water but you cannot make him drink", also applies.
Lucy

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Hennie Duits wrote:

Lucy, I see that you didn't read & understand what was written. This is not about Homeopathic treatment, but the
perceptions and prejudices of the patient to their healing process. Babies & animals don't have pre-conceived ideas about
their treatments. That's why the treatment works so well.
Bill G
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Tamarque, you also didn't understand the gist of the email. It's not important if the drug trial was immoral or
unscientific, or what caused the ulcers. What was important was the state of mind the patients were in - a positive mindset
about their treatment & doctors, caused a positive outcome, even with a very destructive protocol.
When people come to an Alternative practitioner it is because they have exhausted the treatments Orthodox medicine tried on them. Many are disillusioned with their doctors (usually they are passed from one doctor to another) and improper treatment, usually at great expense to them. They were burned, cut-up, & poisoned.
Why do they show up at a Homeopathic office? This was their last hope, a friend told them about Homeopathy, they found a practitioner on the internet. They are already disillusioned and feel hopeless, defeated, and scared, and probably have little faith in this unknown practitioner, and protocol. When you add all the negative remarks in this country about alternative treatment, and that they are asked to pay in cash, because insurance does not cover treatment, and the cost is high (as someone lamented on this site before).
Many years ago, when I attended a Homeopathic conference in Montreal, there was a Homeopathic practitioner who operated a Cancer clinic from Central America. One of the questions he was asked was, "of all the protocols you use, what was the most
effective for the patients". His answer was, "prayer / meditation, had a better outcome then even Homeopathy".
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I don't know about babies but I can answer for animals here:

Cats especially (and other animals I have worked with as well though less consistently) know whether a remedy you offer them is going to be useful to them.
If it is really a wrong remedy they will strongly fight you to prevent your giving it to them.
Some of them will fetch you when they need a new dose. They will also often turn down the right remedy if it has run out of steam and needs a higher potency. The new potency will be happily accepted. A dose offered too soon will also be rejected (and if forced will aggravate).

I can tell you that it is humbling to select a remedy and have a cat look at you as if you have lost your marbles with that selection!
But on the other hand, it's great to see the instant acceptance of a well selected correct remedy.
There are exceptions - it depends on the ICT (Innate constitutional type). An Ars alb cat will seldom accept a remedy with alacrity, much less ask for it or ask for more if they think the dose is too small.
They may take it reluctantly - and you'll see that Ars types tend not to believe in homeopathy - it's a known rubric for Ars.
It's not about whether Ars is the simillimum - it's about whether Ars is the innate constitutional type. The right remedy needed at the time will still work for them - whatever remedy that is.
So - healing is NOT "up to the patient" - the remedy will act - positively or negatively - whether it is wanted or not.

But whoever thinks that cats are valid subjects for research involving placebos versus remedy - has another think coming:-)

Namaste,
Irene

REPLY TO: only
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

How many animals have you worked with to arrive at that assumption!

They KNOW whether an energy is right for them! they do not need to take it on trust - they detect the remedy AND whether it is right for them.
Nah - it works because it's a good system. The light does not switch on according to whether you believe in electricity - it turns on whether you want it to or not - same with energy remedies - they have energy that acts, whether you want it to or not.

Irene

REPLY TO: only
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

I did understand the gist of the email totally, Bill.
I just had some serious question about it, including the veracity of the reporting.
Perhaps you missed that in my post
t
From: Bill Giman
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 10:11 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Healing is up to the patient

Tamarque, you also didn't understand the gist of the email. It's not important if the drug trial was immoral or
unscientific, or what caused the ulcers. What was important was the state of mind the patients were in - a positive mindset
about their treatment & doctors, caused a positive outcome, even with a very destructive protocol.
When people come to an Alternative practitioner it is because they have exhausted the treatments Orthodox medicine tried on them. Many are disillusioned with their doctors (usually they are passed from one doctor to another) and improper treatment, usually at great expense to them. They were burned, cut-up, & poisoned.
Why do they show up at a Homeopathic office? This was their last hope, a friend told them about Homeopathy, they found a practitioner on the internet. They are already disillusioned and feel hopeless, defeated, and scared, and probably have little faith in this unknown practitioner, and protocol. When you add all the negative remarks in this country about alternative treatment, and that they are asked to pay in cash, because insurance does not cover treatment, and the cost is high (as someone lamented on this site before).
Many years ago, when I attended a Homeopathic conference in Montreal, there was a Homeopathic practitioner who operated a Cancer clinic from Central America. One of the questions he was asked was, "of all the protocols you use, what was the most
effective for the patients". His answer was, "prayer / meditation, had a better outcome then even Homeopathy".
____________________________________________________________
How to Sleep Like a Rock
Obey this one natural trick to fall asleep and stay asleep all night.
peaklife.com