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Dr. Ramakrishnan Ripoff!

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:37 am
by healthinfo6
I get emails when Dr. Ramakrishnan visits NYC looking for appts. I just received one that he's coming in April, so suggested to someone that it may be a good idea to see him to get an initial remedy suggestion, maybe constitutional.
When I last saw him a couple of years ago, new patients paid $350 for a first 1/2 hour visit.
Now, he's charging $700 for a 1st visit.
I find that truly greedy and exorbitant since the visit is 1/2 hour and his style is more consultation, or maybe like his clinics in India, where you get a quick case review, a constitutional remedy and maybe some other supportive remedies. He does not do heavy duty case taking, repping and followups by email are minimal at best, like a few words, a sentence.
Plus, he prescribes 4th Organon, dry C potency, ensuring you will not have quick case resolution to long term chronic disease and keeping you as his patient along with, at least me, a severe aggravation if that last dry dose puts you over the edge. Then you're left high and dry to deal with it solo.
While I do place a value on seeing someone with, hopefully, vast clinical experience and that they could easily prescribe remedies on a few keynotes, symptoms, background, etc., I found subsequent prescriptions were almost protocol like and not taking into account previous remedy action, aggravations, etc. Some remedies he prescribed me had no basis in my case, just, try this, try that. And I have no idea if he even thinks miasmatically and uses nosodes intercurrently, which have helped me so much.
Well, they say prices rise to what the market can bear and his 5 days of seeing patients in the USA is now even more lucrative.
Sad to see where USA homeopathic treatment has been heading towards and how those sick, not knowing anything about homeopathy, have to pay a premium for any possible help believing they are seeing a guru homeopath.
Susan

Re: Dr. Ramakrishnan Ripoff!

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:29 am
by Tanya Marquette
Sorry to burst your bubble but NYC fees are like that. I saw Jeremy Scherr
about 7 yrs ago in NYC and he was charging $700 for an intake and about $200
for a follow up which was only about 20-30” as I recall. I went in as a clinic
pt so did not pay that kind of money. At that time typical NYC fees were generally
around $300. I saw someone north of NYC when I had Lyme even longer ago, yr 2000, who
charged me about$300? for in take with no remedy given. Had me come back in
a month and again charged me about $150-200 with no remedy. It wasn’t until
the 3rd visit that he gave me a remedy charging me again. And he called the
woman who I had been working with who was abroad to ‘discuss’ the case. He
was someone with a reputation and an MD after his name. Remedy never did
anything and I went back to working with the woman who working with me by
phone at $100/session. She was in England at the time.
The argument is usually that NYC rentals and other costs drive up fees. And
there is some truth to this. But visiting homeopaths tend to use other people’s
homes or office space (1 room) rented for the day. Their travel costs to NYC
are covered by their fees for lectures which are usually is what brings them to
the City. Fees really come down to what the market will bear. In my small
rural/suburban area fees are around $2-300/in take.
About 5-6 yrs ago I was asked by a friend with crippling RA to accompany her
to NYC to see a holistic MD that she had read about. It was a horrible cold,
rainy day. We trained into the City, she in her wheelchair. We got to the office
which was supposed to be wheelchair accessible except for the 2 steps down
and the 2 steps up again! He kept us waiting for quite some time and then
spent about 1/2’ at the most with her. He barely took a history, told her to
take drugs and gave her a tape of music to listen to! Because I was there with
my big mouth he gave us a copy of a book he wrote. Whoopydoo! For all this
nothing, he charged $900 cash. I read the book on the train ride home and told
this woman that she could have paid me 1/2 the fee, stayed home and I could
have given her more meaningful info that this jerk.
Many homeopaths feel that if MDs can make this money for all the toxic and
useless stuff they do, why shouldn’t a homeopath make the same income when
they do better healing with safety.
Just some perspective for you. And what do others on this list charge?
t
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Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:37 AM
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Subject: [Minutus] Dr. Ramakrishnan Ripoff!

I get emails when Dr. Ramakrishnan visits NYC looking for appts. I just received one that he's coming in April, so suggested to someone that it may be a good idea to see him to get an initial remedy suggestion, maybe constitutional.
When I last saw him a couple of years ago, new patients paid $350 for a first 1/2 hour visit.
Now, he's charging $700 for a 1st visit.
I find that truly greedy and exorbitant since the visit is 1/2 hour and his style is more consultation, or maybe like his clinics in India, where you get a quick case review, a constitutional remedy and maybe some other supportive remedies. He does not do heavy duty case taking, repping and followups by email are minimal at best, like a few words, a sentence.
Plus, he prescribes 4th Organon, dry C potency, ensuring you will not have quick case resolution to long term chronic disease and keeping you as his patient along with, at least me, a severe aggravation if that last dry dose puts you over the edge. Then you're left high and dry to deal with it solo.
While I do place a value on seeing someone with, hopefully, vast clinical experience and that they could easily prescribe remedies on a few keynotes, symptoms, background, etc., I found subsequent prescriptions were almost protocol like and not taking into account previous remedy action, aggravations, etc. Some remedies he prescribed me had no basis in my case, just, try this, try that. And I have no idea if he even thinks miasmatically and uses nosodes intercurrently, which have helped me so much.
Well, they say prices rise to what the market can bear and his 5 days of seeing patients in the USA is now even more lucrative.
Sad to see where USA homeopathic treatment has been heading towards and how those sick, not knowing anything about homeopathy, have to pay a premium for any possible help believing they are seeing a guru homeopath.
Susan

Re: Dr. Ramakrishnan Ripoff!

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:47 pm
by ukhomoeopath
my charges are £50 +one free remedy (7g bottle) for the first consultation, which lasts anywhere from 1 1/2hr to sometimes 3hrs!
Further consultations, usually every 3 weeks and lasting about 30-45mins, is £35, again with one free 7g bottle remedy.

I will also be interested in knowing what others charge :)

Regards
Mohamed Caffoor
http://www.ukhomeopathy.co.uk

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Re: Dr. Ramakrishnan Ripoff!

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:51 pm
by Rochelle
I am interested in knowing why you would give a whole bottle of a remedy to a patient as many of us only give 1 dose.
Rochelle
Rochelle Marsden MSc, RSHom, MNWCH, AAMET

Registered with the Society of Homeopaths

EFT(Advanced) Practitioner

www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

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Subject: [Minutus] Re: Dr. Ramakrishnan Ripoff!
my charges are £50 +one free remedy (7g bottle) for the first consultation, which lasts anywhere from 1 1/2hr to sometimes 3hrs!
Further consultations, usually every 3 weeks and lasting about 30-45mins, is £35, again with one free 7g bottle remedy.

I will also be interested in knowing what others charge :)

Regards
Mohamed Caffoor
http://www.ukhomeopathy.co.uk

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Re: Dr. Ramakrishnan Ripoff!

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:15 pm
by ukhomoeopath
Hello Rochelle
From my experience, I have found giving remedies (mainly 6c and 30c), twice a day has produced better results than giving them either once a day or even once a week

So do you give just one dose till they meet up with you again?

Regards
Mohamed Caffoor
http://www.ukhomeopathy.co.uk

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Re: Dr. Ramakrishnan Ripoff!

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:22 pm
by Rochelle
Hi Mohamed,
Yes I usually give 1 dose or 3 doses in 24 hours, depending on the potency or the sensitivity of the patient . In a case where there is lots of allopathic medication or when there has been improvement on a couple of doses I would then make up a Water Potency to be taken daily and succussed before each dose. I wouldn’t want to give dry doses in case a proving occurs. Do you never get provings occurring from giving so many dry doses? I have to say I rarely give a 6c – only as an organ tonic.
Rochelle
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Sent: 20 March 2013 14:31
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Hello Rochelle
From my experience, I have found giving remedies (mainly 6c and 30c), twice a day has produced better results than giving them either once a day or even once a week

So do you give just one dose till they meet up with you again?

Regards
Mohamed Caffoor
http://www.ukhomeopathy.co.uk

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Re: Dr. Ramakrishnan Ripoff!

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:15 pm
by Sheri Nakken
when you give a remedy - frequency - HAS to be individualized.................you can't just say that giving remedies twice a day is better than once a day or once a week. Every person has to be monitored and the right frequency found.
sheri

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Re: Dr. Ramakrishnan Ripoff!

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:22 pm
by ukhomoeopath
Hello Rochelle
So far no provings at all. The results I get from my patients are:
1. Either it has helped
2. Helped - much better but still there
3. No difference

Regards
Mohamed Caffoor
http://www.ukhomeopathy.co.uk

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Re: Dr. Ramakrishnan Ripoff!

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:52 pm
by Leilanae
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In the Los Angeles area, about 2 years ago, a CCH rate was $350-400 intake and when Dr. Luc was practicing in the area his fee was $700 intake.

In comparison, MD's (non homeopath) charge $400 intake and this is usually covered by insurance.

Leilanae

Re: Dr. Ramakrishnan Ripoff!

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:15 pm
by healthinfo6
It's probably cheaper to fly to Mumbai, stay in a hotel there and go to Dr. Ram's clinic.
You'd get the same service.
I'm not surprised by USA high prices, moreso that Dr. Ramakrishnan doubled his fees in 2 years.
The hotel he stays at in east side Manhattan hasn't doubled nor has his airfare.
Speaking of Mumbai, has anyone been to as a patient or spent time doing clinical work with Farokh Master;s homeopathic clinic there? Says open to visits and suggested payment amounts if you want to follow them per day in clinic setting to learn. Seems useful informal training. Plus hotels are $40/day! ;)
Susan