LM important question
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LM important question
Hi,
Which potency is *practically* stronger:
LM /2 (a new globule )
Or
LM /1 in a bottle which had been used by a person for 30 doses, and before each dose was taken - the bottle was succussed 10 times= total of 300 succussions?
If the latter is stronger -- then after the LM /1 Should be taken LM /3 and not the LM /2 ...
TIA
Rafy
Which potency is *practically* stronger:
LM /2 (a new globule )
Or
LM /1 in a bottle which had been used by a person for 30 doses, and before each dose was taken - the bottle was succussed 10 times= total of 300 succussions?
If the latter is stronger -- then after the LM /1 Should be taken LM /3 and not the LM /2 ...
TIA
Rafy
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Re: LM important question
Hello,
I am an LM prescriber, I use the 8 ounce bottles with 6 ounces of water and LM potencies, LMs are my most frequent prescriptions, you have asked an excellent question.
In a case like you are describing, especially when the remedy has acted well, I will skip the next potency. Since your client is on an LM 1, I would move to the LM 3.
I believe it was Vermeulian (someone please correct me if I am wrong) who felt If you give an LM remedy and it doesn't work, go to the next potency as he felt some patients resonate better with the even numbers and some with the odd.
I would concur with his assessment (and some just resonate with both). If the patient is not overly sensitive and is tolerating the potency well, skip the next one and stay with the odd or even numbers.
LMs are interesting and I have seen certain potencies work while others did not.
Warmly, Maria
I am an LM prescriber, I use the 8 ounce bottles with 6 ounces of water and LM potencies, LMs are my most frequent prescriptions, you have asked an excellent question.
In a case like you are describing, especially when the remedy has acted well, I will skip the next potency. Since your client is on an LM 1, I would move to the LM 3.
I believe it was Vermeulian (someone please correct me if I am wrong) who felt If you give an LM remedy and it doesn't work, go to the next potency as he felt some patients resonate better with the even numbers and some with the odd.
I would concur with his assessment (and some just resonate with both). If the patient is not overly sensitive and is tolerating the potency well, skip the next one and stay with the odd or even numbers.
LMs are interesting and I have seen certain potencies work while others did not.
Warmly, Maria
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Re: LM important question
The LM01 in use has had more succussion but no dilution!
LM02 has had more dilution and lesser degree of succussion.
It would make for a gentler transition.
Rgds
Soroush
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] LM important question
Hello,
I am an LM prescriber, I use the 8 ounce bottles with 6 ounces of water and LM potencies, LMs are my most frequent prescriptions, you have asked an excellent question.
In a case like you are describing, especially when the remedy has acted well, I will skip the next potency. Since your client is on an LM 1, I would move to the LM 3.
I believe it was Vermeulian (someone please correct me if I am wrong) who felt If you give an LM remedy and it doesn't work, go to the next potency as he felt some patients resonate better with the even numbers and some with the odd.
I would concur with his assessment (and some just resonate with both). If the patient is not overly sensitive and is tolerating the potency well, skip the next one and stay with the odd or even numbers.
LMs are interesting and I have seen certain potencies work while others did not.
Warmly, Maria
Hi,
Which potency is *practically* stronger:
LM /2 (a new globule )
Or
LM /1 in a bottle which had been used by a person for 30 doses, and before each dose was taken - the bottle was succussed 10 times= total of 300 succussions?
If the latter is stronger -- then after the LM /1 Should be taken LM /3 and not the LM /2 ...
TIA
Rafy
LM02 has had more dilution and lesser degree of succussion.
It would make for a gentler transition.
Rgds
Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Bohle
Sent: 14 March 2013 10:34
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] LM important question
Hello,
I am an LM prescriber, I use the 8 ounce bottles with 6 ounces of water and LM potencies, LMs are my most frequent prescriptions, you have asked an excellent question.
In a case like you are describing, especially when the remedy has acted well, I will skip the next potency. Since your client is on an LM 1, I would move to the LM 3.
I believe it was Vermeulian (someone please correct me if I am wrong) who felt If you give an LM remedy and it doesn't work, go to the next potency as he felt some patients resonate better with the even numbers and some with the odd.
I would concur with his assessment (and some just resonate with both). If the patient is not overly sensitive and is tolerating the potency well, skip the next one and stay with the odd or even numbers.
LMs are interesting and I have seen certain potencies work while others did not.
Warmly, Maria
Hi,
Which potency is *practically* stronger:
LM /2 (a new globule )
Or
LM /1 in a bottle which had been used by a person for 30 doses, and before each dose was taken - the bottle was succussed 10 times= total of 300 succussions?
If the latter is stronger -- then after the LM /1 Should be taken LM /3 and not the LM /2 ...
TIA
Rafy
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Re: LM important question
Dear Maria and Soroush,
Many thanks for your kind replies.
Soroush, do you mean that the LM /2 Is still a *stronger* potency than the LM /1 which has undergone 400 succussions?
Regards.
Rafy
ב-14 במרץ 2013, בשעה 13:13, > כתב/ה:
Many thanks for your kind replies.
Soroush, do you mean that the LM /2 Is still a *stronger* potency than the LM /1 which has undergone 400 succussions?
Regards.
Rafy
ב-14 במרץ 2013, בשעה 13:13, > כתב/ה:
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Re: LM important question
My opinion: yes
Saludos,
Dr. M. Franzreb Corbelletti
Castellana 171 Bajo izda., 28046 Madrid
www.drmarcofranzreb.com
Tel.: 914491957
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Dear Maria and Soroush,
Many thanks for your kind replies.
Soroush, do you mean that the LM /2 Is still a *stronger* potency than the LM /1 which has undergone 400 succussions?
Regards.
Rafy
ב-14 במרץ 2013, בשעה 13:13, > כתב/ה:
Saludos,
Dr. M. Franzreb Corbelletti
Castellana 171 Bajo izda., 28046 Madrid
www.drmarcofranzreb.com
Tel.: 914491957
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Dear Maria and Soroush,
Many thanks for your kind replies.
Soroush, do you mean that the LM /2 Is still a *stronger* potency than the LM /1 which has undergone 400 succussions?
Regards.
Rafy
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Re: LM important question
I too would have thought yes -- was taught that the rise in potency from succession alone is *small* -- but why not try it out? Would be very interested in hearing what the patient's experience is?
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Re: LM important question
I am confused by this question on a classical homeopathy iist.
Are people questioning, now, the idea that additional succussions
create ‘stronger’ or deeper acting medicine?
t
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I too would have thought yes -- was taught that the rise in potency from succession alone is *small* -- but why not try it out? Would be very interested in hearing what the patient's experience is?
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Are people questioning, now, the idea that additional succussions
create ‘stronger’ or deeper acting medicine?
t
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Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 11:13 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] LM important question
I too would have thought yes -- was taught that the rise in potency from succession alone is *small* -- but why not try it out? Would be very interested in hearing what the patient's experience is?
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Re: LM important question
Not at all.
The question is whether e.g. 400 successions give a bigger boost vs. going up one level in the LM series.
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The question is whether e.g. 400 successions give a bigger boost vs. going up one level in the LM series.
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Re: LM important question
Thanks for the clarification. I felt like I had walked into another world but
I must have missed a beginning post on this thread.
t
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Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 11:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [Minutus] LM important question
Not at all.
The question is whether e.g. 400 successions give a bigger boost vs. going up one level in the LM series.
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I must have missed a beginning post on this thread.
t
From: Shannon Nelson
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 11:53 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] LM important question
Not at all.
The question is whether e.g. 400 successions give a bigger boost vs. going up one level in the LM series.
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Re: LM important question
Hi All,
The idea with LM’s is to get a smooth transition from one dose to the next, gradually overcoming the inner disease state, rather than hammering at it with Centessimal’s and jumping one potency to the next.
If you make an LM, each stage gets 100 succussions. When a patient uses the dose, the dilution may vary, but on average if you give 100ml as a stock bottle and the patient succusses 5 times and then uses 5ml diluted in a glass (and then one measure as a dose), each dose-time will increase the stock bottle by 5 succussions. The bottle ends after 20 doses, and 100 succussions, which is where the next LM takes over. The next dose was prepared with dilution and 100 succussions, so it will be slightly stronger (from the dilution effect) than the previous dose. The transition is however minimal, so it’s a smooth trend.
Of course the succusions and size of stock bottle as well as number of doses before changing LM will vary based on various factors, but the idea is to get a more or less smooth increase in effect until the inner-disease state is overtaken and extinguished.
Over-succussion will possibly lead to a dose being too strong. Any dose that is stronger than the inner disease state will cause a (medicinal) aggravation. So an excessively strong dose might cause an excessive aggravation. A dose that is not succussed enough will be less likely to aggravate, but the dosage program will take longer to overcome and extinguish the disease state. The art is to judge form the patient response, what their sensitivity is and increase or decrease dose appropriately.
Regards,
Paul
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Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 6:00 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] LM important question
Thanks for the clarification. I felt like I had walked into another world but
I must have missed a beginning post on this thread.
t
From: Shannon Nelson
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 11:53 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] LM important question
Not at all.
The question is whether e.g. 400 successions give a bigger boost vs. going up one level in the LM series.
________________________________
The idea with LM’s is to get a smooth transition from one dose to the next, gradually overcoming the inner disease state, rather than hammering at it with Centessimal’s and jumping one potency to the next.
If you make an LM, each stage gets 100 succussions. When a patient uses the dose, the dilution may vary, but on average if you give 100ml as a stock bottle and the patient succusses 5 times and then uses 5ml diluted in a glass (and then one measure as a dose), each dose-time will increase the stock bottle by 5 succussions. The bottle ends after 20 doses, and 100 succussions, which is where the next LM takes over. The next dose was prepared with dilution and 100 succussions, so it will be slightly stronger (from the dilution effect) than the previous dose. The transition is however minimal, so it’s a smooth trend.
Of course the succusions and size of stock bottle as well as number of doses before changing LM will vary based on various factors, but the idea is to get a more or less smooth increase in effect until the inner-disease state is overtaken and extinguished.
Over-succussion will possibly lead to a dose being too strong. Any dose that is stronger than the inner disease state will cause a (medicinal) aggravation. So an excessively strong dose might cause an excessive aggravation. A dose that is not succussed enough will be less likely to aggravate, but the dosage program will take longer to overcome and extinguish the disease state. The art is to judge form the patient response, what their sensitivity is and increase or decrease dose appropriately.
Regards,
Paul
From: tamarque
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 6:00 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] LM important question
Thanks for the clarification. I felt like I had walked into another world but
I must have missed a beginning post on this thread.
t
From: Shannon Nelson
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 11:53 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] LM important question
Not at all.
The question is whether e.g. 400 successions give a bigger boost vs. going up one level in the LM series.
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