Minutus

Actually we do. But treating them and suppressing them are two different things.
Failure to treat fevers over 104 degrees F leads to brain damage - which is not too healthy, and leads to death if untreated.
Helping the individual to naturally fight back, such as by providing extra oxygen (eg Ferr phos 200C frequent small doses) is beneficial in helping the individual's system to overcome the cause of fever - as opposed to suppressing it.
So yes we TREAT a fever - but we do not suppress it.

Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

At 10:45 PM 2/14/2013, you wrote:

And that is an old wives tale Irene - fevers over 104 does NOT lead
to brain damage. The body and brain handles whatever fever it
produces (unless that brain already has injury and can't regulate
fevers correctly.)
This is just not true
I don't agree.
We don't treat a fever - that is a symptom and a body's way of
dissipating a disturbance. We treat the whole picture and the fever
goes when it is no longer needed, is what I still say.

Maybe you could read the info on my page
http://www.wellwithin1.com/fever.htm
Sheri

even though 'they' know and say the below.................they still are so quick to give tylenol, etc

http://hss.ulb.uni-bonn.de/2011/2531/2531.pdf

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency ... 003090.htm
"Brain damage from a fever generally will not occur unless the fever is over 107.6 °F (42 °C). Untreated fevers caused by infection will seldom go over 105 °F unless the child is overdressed or trapped in a hot place. "

http://www.babycenter.com/404_can-a-hig ... e_11590.bc and even a baby center peds
"Although fevers over 106 degrees are very unusual, unless a child is trapped in a hot place or overdressed, most children can tolerate a temperature of slightly greater than 107 degrees F without long-term effects from the fever itself. "

http://www.childrenscolorado.org/wellne ... myths.aspx

MYTH: Fevers cause brain damage or fevers above 104° F (40° C) are dangerous.

FACT: Fevers with infections don't cause brain damage. Only body temperatures above 108° F (42° C) can cause brain damage. The body temperature climbs this high only with extreme environmental temperatures (for example, if a child is confined to a closed car in hot weather).

http://www.drgreene.com/blog/2001/06/19 ... e-seizures
Many parents fear that fevers will cause brain damage. Brain damage from a fever will not occur unless the fever is over 107.6 degrees F (42C) for an extended period of time.
Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com/ & http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/
ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood Diseases
Next classes start Thursday January 10

Can I cross-post this, please, Sheri?

Nienke

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certainly - also share my webpage http://www.wellwithin1.com/fever.htm

Sheri

At 06:04 PM 2/15/2013, you wrote:

Ah - I misspoke - I should have said brain damage AND death.
I am not speaking theoretically. I'm speaking from knowledge with experience.
My approach always uses proper knowledge and research, not "old wives tales".

The old wives tale is that prolonged very high fever can be "handled" by the body.

Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Thank you. Done with your web-link included.

Nienke

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Sheri Nakken wrote:

You are still in error, Irene - 104 does not lead to brain damage and death - see my other post with references. I am a peds nurse from 1971 and never ever saw brain damage or death in fevers of 104 or above.

Sheri

Hi Sheri,
The question of fever has to be balanced with other issues, such as dehydration.
But there is also the question of the role of fever. We know it helps the immune system to fight infection. But there is more to it.
Children handle fever a lot better than adults. The same for childhood illnesses such as measles etc. Children handle them better because they are exactly what they are “childhood illnesses”. Adults with these diseases are usually quite affected.
Part of the role of fever is to burn up body tissues. This way old tissue is destroyed so that new (ideally healthy) tissue can be stimulated. It’s important for children because they are born with (predominantly) maternally derived tissues formed in utero. So their first seven years is a process of breaking down and building their own new tissue. When this doesn’t happen they end up with old tissue that eventually becomes foreign to them. That’s when the immune system finds it and hey presto we have an “auto-immune” disease, which is occurring so much more now. (Vaccines, suppressing fever etc being some of the culprits).
By the time a person is an adult they shouldn’t need such high fevers. Every seven years in a persons life is a cycle where by that end cycle, new tissues have been formed, but the normal body processes should be doing that (ideally). The kids need the high fevers because they need to really get rid of tissues and produce their own tissues. Adults have cycles that replace their own old tissue with their own new tissues.
So, an adult with a high fever would have a much more critical pathology going on. Perhaps years of suppression and now the body needs to renew. Bottom line is, the dam wall breaks and they can be more severely ill. And perhaps the temperature itself can be more damaging. Generally they don’t handle fever as well as kids.
Regards,
Paul
From: Sheri Nakken
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 8:54 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Fever treatment

You are still in error, Irene - 104 does not lead to brain damage and death - see my other post with references. I am a peds nurse from 1971 and never ever saw brain damage or death in fevers of 104 or above.

Sheri

Hi,

Any reaction mounted by the body is helpful as long as it
is within control and leads to recovery. On the other hand
as Dr Vijayakar of Predictive homeopathy pointed out at
many seminars, any bodily process that is going out of
control is of Syphilitic miasm joining hands with the psora,
which is like adding fuel to the fire. In such a case,
palliative measures are the need of the hour and must be
put in place at the esrliest.

V.T.Yekkirala.
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