Vitamin C - ascorbate..........was need suggestions for impacted stool
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:16 pm
problem is, as I said below - actually it is sodium ascorbate they use, even when they say ascorbic acid.- hence the confusion
"Note: Sodium Ascorbate is the only form of vitamin C that should be used intravenously. " from the Vitamin C Foundation
And probably as a vet, Irene, you don't give much Vitamin C, as most animals produce their own (except guinea pigs, fruit bats, primate monkeys and humans and some species of birds and fish, to name most of them)
http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/powder.shtml
"Nobelist and Vitamin C Experts Linus Pauling and Robert Cathcart Were Unequivocal - "Ascorbic Acid is the most potent form of oral Vitamin C."
There are various forms of vitamin C, (e.g. ascorbic acid, and the mineral ascorbates, such as sodium ascorbate, potassium ascorbate, calcium ascorbate, magnesium ascorbate, etc.), but not all forms are created equal. Vitamin C experts such as Linus Pauling PhD, Robert Cathcart III, MD, and Thomas Levy MD,JD, recommend just two forms of vitamin C orally: ascorbic acid and/or sodium ascorbate.
Note: Sodium Ascorbate is the only form of vitamin C that should be used intravenously.
More here for those inclined to know more.................
http://vitamincfoundation.org/NaturalC.htm
The Nature of Vitamin C
The Position of the Vitamin C Foundation on Natural Vitamin C and so-called Vitamin C-complex
"The following treatise represents the position of The Vitamin C Foundation on the true nature of vitamin C. The ascorbate ion, the fraction commonly found in ascorbic acid, or one of the salts, e.g., sodium ascorbate or calcium ascorbate, is vitamin C. This is the substance that when missing in the diet causes death by scurvy. There is no scientific debate about this fact. The scientific literature is so voluminous that few would be capable of digesting it. Part of the problem is that today's dietitians and orthodox nutritionists are taught to ignore much of the early research and medical doctors are not well versed in vitamin C either. Apparently this knowledge vacuum has opened the door to the emotionally appealing idea of a "natural" vitamin C-complex. "
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http://vitamincfoundation.org/esterc.htm Why the Foundation Does Not Recommend Ester-C®
According to Robert Cathcart,MD, the physician with vast experience with high dose vitamin C protocols, mineral ascorbates are generally not as effective therapeutically as ascorbic acid:
http://www.doctoryourself.com/klennerpaper.html
Journal of Applied Nutrition Vol. 23, No's 3 & 4, Winter 1971
Observations On the Dose and Administration of Ascorbic Acid When Employed Beyond the Range Of A Vitamin In Human Pathology
Frederick R. Klenner, M.D., F.C.C.P.
Comment by Robert F. Cathcart, M.D. : This paper repeatedly refers to intravenous ascorbic acid. My personal experience, my talking with Klenner, and with his wife, Annie Klenner, who served as his nurse, would indicate that he means sodium ascorbate. See my article on how to make intravenous C solutions. I am especially indebted to Annie Klenner for her descriptions of how Fred made the intravenous solutions of sodium ascorbate.
AND as to the sodium in sodium ascorbate.................................
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"Recently the FDA has published a 'warning' that too much soda-ascorbate might be harmful, referring to the sodium ion. In reply to this I can state that for many years I have taken 10 to 20 grams of sodium ascorbate by mouth daily, and my blood sodium remains normal. These levels are checked by an approved laboratory. 20 grams each day and my urine remains at or just above pH 6."
Signed:
Fred R. Klenner, M.D."
Sheri
"At 02:09 AM 1/22/2013, you wrote:
"Note: Sodium Ascorbate is the only form of vitamin C that should be used intravenously. " from the Vitamin C Foundation
And probably as a vet, Irene, you don't give much Vitamin C, as most animals produce their own (except guinea pigs, fruit bats, primate monkeys and humans and some species of birds and fish, to name most of them)
http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/powder.shtml
"Nobelist and Vitamin C Experts Linus Pauling and Robert Cathcart Were Unequivocal - "Ascorbic Acid is the most potent form of oral Vitamin C."
There are various forms of vitamin C, (e.g. ascorbic acid, and the mineral ascorbates, such as sodium ascorbate, potassium ascorbate, calcium ascorbate, magnesium ascorbate, etc.), but not all forms are created equal. Vitamin C experts such as Linus Pauling PhD, Robert Cathcart III, MD, and Thomas Levy MD,JD, recommend just two forms of vitamin C orally: ascorbic acid and/or sodium ascorbate.
Note: Sodium Ascorbate is the only form of vitamin C that should be used intravenously.
More here for those inclined to know more.................
http://vitamincfoundation.org/NaturalC.htm
The Nature of Vitamin C
The Position of the Vitamin C Foundation on Natural Vitamin C and so-called Vitamin C-complex
"The following treatise represents the position of The Vitamin C Foundation on the true nature of vitamin C. The ascorbate ion, the fraction commonly found in ascorbic acid, or one of the salts, e.g., sodium ascorbate or calcium ascorbate, is vitamin C. This is the substance that when missing in the diet causes death by scurvy. There is no scientific debate about this fact. The scientific literature is so voluminous that few would be capable of digesting it. Part of the problem is that today's dietitians and orthodox nutritionists are taught to ignore much of the early research and medical doctors are not well versed in vitamin C either. Apparently this knowledge vacuum has opened the door to the emotionally appealing idea of a "natural" vitamin C-complex. "
"
http://vitamincfoundation.org/esterc.htm Why the Foundation Does Not Recommend Ester-C®
According to Robert Cathcart,MD, the physician with vast experience with high dose vitamin C protocols, mineral ascorbates are generally not as effective therapeutically as ascorbic acid:
http://www.doctoryourself.com/klennerpaper.html
Journal of Applied Nutrition Vol. 23, No's 3 & 4, Winter 1971
Observations On the Dose and Administration of Ascorbic Acid When Employed Beyond the Range Of A Vitamin In Human Pathology
Frederick R. Klenner, M.D., F.C.C.P.
Comment by Robert F. Cathcart, M.D. : This paper repeatedly refers to intravenous ascorbic acid. My personal experience, my talking with Klenner, and with his wife, Annie Klenner, who served as his nurse, would indicate that he means sodium ascorbate. See my article on how to make intravenous C solutions. I am especially indebted to Annie Klenner for her descriptions of how Fred made the intravenous solutions of sodium ascorbate.
AND as to the sodium in sodium ascorbate.................................
"
"Recently the FDA has published a 'warning' that too much soda-ascorbate might be harmful, referring to the sodium ion. In reply to this I can state that for many years I have taken 10 to 20 grams of sodium ascorbate by mouth daily, and my blood sodium remains normal. These levels are checked by an approved laboratory. 20 grams each day and my urine remains at or just above pH 6."
Signed:
Fred R. Klenner, M.D."
Sheri
"At 02:09 AM 1/22/2013, you wrote: