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pertussis study?

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:48 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Can anyone point me at a "study" showing effectiveness of homeopathic treatment of whooping cough?

The person i am trying to answer is not impressed by even reams of (cough) "anecdote" aka clinical experience. Sooooo, just asking…

Thanks,
Shannon

Re: pertussis study?

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:25 pm
by Rochelle Marsden
Have you seen this one:-
http://www.naturalnews.com/038096_homeo ... cines.html
Rochelle Marsden MSc, RSHom, MNWCH, AAMET
Registered with the Society of Homeopaths
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
https://www.facebook.com/southporthomeopathicpractice

Re: pertussis study?

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:47 pm
by Tanya Marquette
Your doubting Thomas person has no clue as to what 'science' is.
Observation is the beginning of all science, and ends, always, in the
clinic where laboratory machinations actually get tested in the real world!

Can't put my fingers on it right now, but there are data from the epidemics
of the 18-early 20c.

t

Re: pertussis study?

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:47 pm
by comdyne2002
Magnesium can both prevent and cure Pertussis as well as Diphtheria.
Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

Re: pertussis study?

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:25 pm
by Tanya Marquette
Homeopathically? Cell salts? Vitamin supplement?
What doses/potency?
Any literature on this?
t
From: comdyne2002
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:47 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] pertussis study?

Magnesium can both prevent and cure Pertussis as well as Diphtheria.
Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

Re: pertussis study?

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:26 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Nope, his understanding of some of the issues is still "a work in progress."

To his credit, tho, he is asking and reading and listening -- at least when / if I can provide studies! lol

Hm, data from the early epidemics. I'm guessing he'll dismiss that as more anecdote :-) but that's a good idea to try, thanks.

Re: pertussis study?

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:27 pm
by Tanya Marquette
ask him if he also dismisses the CDC data which is based on
clinical cases collected?

you can also poke at his reality by noting the contradiction betw
the FDA/CDC/Big Pharma push for vaccines when the data shows
they were/are ineffective.

t

Re: pertussis study?

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:14 pm
by Victoria Mashevsky
http://www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/ ... 2/abstract
article is from 1987 pulished in British J of M but seems to only be available as abstract from British Homeopathic J
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Re: pertussis study?

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:24 pm
by Victoria Mashevsky
Pub Med also showing 2 more articles in languages other than English. If you have friends who can read German or French even better Swedish you may have better results by asking them to search their national DB.
Good Luck!
Victoria

Re: pertussis study?

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:54 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Victoria, thanks for both of these.

It's interesting that the abstract notes that "with rising vaccination rates" the cost / benefit may not make it worth conducting a full study. Now with most pertussis cases being vaccinated, I wonder if that equation has changed.

Thanks so much for your input!

Shannon