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Re: Re vomiting colicky baby/sphincters
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:51 pm
by Rochelle
Can anyone (Dr Roz?) tell me what would happen in a reflux of the cardiac Sphincter.
Is it paralysed? Clinical; PARALYSIS; general; sphincters, of (7) ars, caust, gels, naja, nux-v, phos, phys, or spasming -Muscles; SPASMS; of sphincters, (see Cramps) (2) BELL, caust, .
Could it be Lax - Muscles; LAX, muscles; sphincters (6) aloe, bell, hyper, phos, podo, sec,
or maybe I should look at Clinical; SPHINCTERS, ailments of (4) calen, laur, sil, staph, - the Staph refers to laceration.
One thing is that there is no Bell P indicated here so maybe I am barking down the wrong track!!
I wish I didn’t think so much!!!
Rochelle
Re: Re vomiting colicky baby/sphincters
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:28 pm
by Irene de Villiers
I do know that in infants, the cardiac sphincter muscles are weaker, and that makes spitting up a lot easier to do. The cardiac sphincter will be still weaker in a case of an immature digestive system.
It means the muscles at the top of the stomach cannot stay firmly closed enough to keep stomach contents down and/or excessive gas is made from food content that the baby is too immature to digest yet.
If magnesium is low that will also be a factor.
But cardiac sphincter weakness is more usual in babies; they all spit up and benefit from being burped for that reason.
My money is still on the immature liver and digestive capability. I'd build that up with nutrients - can't hurt and may make a world of difference. I keep thinking back to the signs - esp constipation (NOT normal, and the main sign of liver immaturity).
If there is severe acid reflux often, it can lead to complications like Barrett's syndrome (stomach lining grows up the esophagus to protect it.). If the main thing spit up is undigested food, it suggests to me the food is not so digestible (either from the mother's diet being complex to digest or due to immature liver, or both. An immature liver does not readily "come right on its own", as opposed to with the maturing nutrients.
Remember that no remedy can supply any nutrient in short supply.
I'm a great fan of thinking:-)
My maxim is that if I do not know exactly what the answer is, then I need more information - so -
more seeking, thinking... asking, thinking.... investigating, thinking... etc needed:-)
It leads to better results.
Namaste,
Irene
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Re: Re vomiting colicky baby/sphincters
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:46 pm
by Rochelle
Hi Irene,
Thanks for that - very interesting
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Can't see mum doing anything but breast milk at this stage, however she
could take extra nutrients. I think a normal soft stool every 3 or 4 days
is common in breast fed babies but I understand what you are saying about
the liver immaturity which makes me think I should be going with the
Lycopodium that comes up as top remedy in my rep.
> What I saw coming up was curdled milk
and it was not long after being fed which shows me that the milk is starting
to be digested.
Thanks
Rochelle
Re: Re vomiting colicky baby/sphincters
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:13 pm
by Irene de Villiers
I agree with "all breast milk" till 6 months (after which there is not enough iron, and meat is needed) , but it is easy to add the nutrients (vitamins) I had suggested to some breast milk, if she is willing to pump some for the purpose, or to make a dropper system for them. I did not mean to imply other solid foods as nutrients, sorry to be unclear. I'd stay with the simplest and a least varied but complete diet possible till it is obvious from a high growth rate with robustness, that the liver has fully matured.
Common or not (I know it varies a lot)..... stool is used to get rid of toxins of metabolism, not just food leftovers; the toxins are not doing any good in there for days on end. But babies will only process it out as fast as the liver and related functions can do so. So you will see it associated with growth rate. Slow stool, slow growth.
Hope all goes well.
Namaste,
Irene
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
Re: Re vomiting colicky baby/sphincters
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:50 pm
by Sheri Nakken
At 10:13 AM 3/14/2013, you wrote:
WHAT??????????? Irene you have very different ideas. Maybe its true in a cat.
Sheri
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Re: Re vomiting colicky baby/sphincters
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:00 pm
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
The cardia is not a "real" sphincter, although there are some oblique fibers surrounding it, but an area that prevents reflux through:
a. an angulation of the gastric upper part upon the abdominal oesophagus
b. a pressure differential between the mediastinum and the peritoneum that shuts the orifice close
Hiatus hernia for example modifies the geometry, hence preventing that physiological sphincter to function. Another example is obese people with reflux, where the problem is often some fat at the junction modifying the angle and allowing the cardia to remain open.
So in this case, I cannot see paralysis, laxity, laceration.....as something locally specific, anatomic. It could simply be a lack of maturity.....I would stick with the dietary adjustments and a symptomatic treatment; as baby matures and grows, it will settle.
If he takes anything else than breast milk, a few mls of slippery elm can provide relief.
Joe.
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Re: Re vomiting colicky baby/sphincters
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:12 pm
by Rochelle
Thanks Joe. From what you say it appears nothing can be done as he will just have to grow out of it!! I like the idea of slippery elm but it comes in UK as a powder – how does that equate in mls???? A pinch in a bottle of milk? Actually I am not sure if he has ever had a bottle so it would have to be mixed with milk onto a spoon and then breast fed after as I don’t think it does dissolve!!
Rochelle
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The cardia is not a "real" sphincter, although there are some oblique fibers surrounding it, but an area that prevents reflux through:
a. an angulation of the gastric upper part upon the abdominal oesophagus
b. a pressure differential between the mediastinum and the peritoneum that shuts the orifice close
Hiatus hernia for example modifies the geometry, hence preventing that physiological sphincter to function. Another example is obese people with reflux, where the problem is often some fat at the junction modifying the angle and allowing the cardia to remain open.
So in this case, I cannot see paralysis, laxity, laceration.....as something locally specific, anatomic. It could simply be a lack of maturity.....I would stick with the dietary adjustments and a symptomatic treatment; as baby matures and grows, it will settle.
If he takes anything else than breast milk, a few mls of slippery elm can provide relief.
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".
www.naturamedica.webs.com
Re: Re vomiting colicky baby/sphincters
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:27 pm
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
You prepare the slippery elm in water, then give it either on a teaspoon, on a finger or smear it on the nipple before feeding.....let your imagination go wild....
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".
www.naturamedica.webs.com
Re: Re vomiting colicky baby/sphincters
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:34 pm
by Rochelle
On the nipple sounds great – will suggest it. I will also give the Lyco which I think may be the constitutional Rx.
Rochelle
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You prepare the slippery elm in water, then give it either on a teaspoon, on a finger or smear it on the nipple before feeding.....let your imagination go wild....
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".
www.naturamedica.webs.com
Re: Re vomiting colicky baby/sphincters
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:39 pm
by Leilanae
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minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD." wrote:
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Here's a recipe:
Slippery Elm syrup
Put 1/2 cup of cool purified water into a glass or stainless steel saucepan. Add one slightly rounded teaspoon of slippery elm powder (or you can open and empty the contents of 5 capsules into the pan). Whisk with a fork until the powder blends with the water. Note: Always blend it in the cold water first. If you add the powder to warm or hot water it will be lumpy.
Bring the ingredients to a simmer over a low flame, stir constantly. Simmer about two minutes or until it slightly thickens to a syrupy consistency.
Cool the mixture then refrigerate in a glass jar with a tight fitting lid. With proper storage the syrup will remain fresh for 7 or 8 days.