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Bacteria/viruses, was Polio - Virology Â- the mis n amed Science
Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 9:42 pm
by comdyne2002
Enter into the picture, antibodies, if you will. While it is true that certain tribes of isolated people when exposed to the civilized world's diseases succumb in large numbers, we must account for the reason as to why those in populations previously exposed have developed an insensitivity to infection which may not pose a serious threat as the same entity can and does do to cultures never previously exposed. Why? Perhaps its the natural immunity provided by antibodies.
Modern medicine incorrectly presumes than antibodies afford protection against various diseases and the fraudulent specialties
of virology and immunology were spawned by this gross error. Antibodies do not have phagocytic functionality, they do not posses the ability to destroy foreign pathogens, this work is only done by specialized groups of white cells of which antibodies are not a member. They do, however,
remind the immune system of previous exposures which may aid in mounting a defense when secondary conditions appear later on. Perhaps this is the reason as to why some societies when shocked with a new plague cannot overcome the invasion and succumb to it. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen
Re: Bacteria/viruses, was Polio - Virology Â- the mis n amed Science
Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 10:28 pm
by comdyne2002
One cannot see viruses in the blood. Viruses are too small to be observed with any standard light microscope. Royal Rife developed a heterodyning microscope in the 1920s and early 30s that utilized the lower sidebands of light and mono-prismatic light to stain virus sized entities with light thus allowing him to see into a new microscopic world. Recently a few new microscopes have achieved similar results, the best known being the Ergonom developed in Germany.
http://www.rife.de/the-ergonom-microscope.html
Rife referred to electron microscopes as being 'shadow graphs' and stated that they are virtually worthless. So much damage and distortion occurs that identical samples appear very different each time a new sample gets prepped and stained. The same originating sample can thus appear as an entirely different specimen every time a new slide is prepared from the original sample.
It is probably best said that viruses and bacteria do not directly cause an illness but indirectly they do. it is the toxins that they excrete that produces the symptomatology of their associated disease. It is their chemical constituents that act upon the tissues of the body which produce the affects. For instance, the enzymes of MMP 1 & 3 are closely associated with human breast cancer. In earlier times these substances were known as necrone, an enzyme that eats and subsequently destroys healthy tissue by dissolving the collagen and are thus called collogenases. Much like the outer rim of a grass fire, collagenase encroaches on fresh tissue as it spreads out from its loci.
Re: Bacteria/viruses, was Polio - Virology Â- the mis n amed Science
Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 11:10 pm
by Shannon Nelson
? Hijacking the cell's fundamental mechanism is "indirect"?
Colonizing cells and exploding them is "indirect"?
Carmi, that is not a *toxic* issue, it seems to me very direct...
But I would ask the same about toxins -- if that's not "direct", I am not sure what would be.
If I put poison in someone's tea, was that not a direct action?
Sounds pretty direct to me...
?
(But -- I'm not sure why the distinction is meaningful anyway...)
Re: Bacteria/viruses, was Polio - Virology Â- the mis n amed Science
Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 11:36 pm
by geo
Naah...
Scientists have developed all sorts of molecular fragments based on the structure of virus in order to interact with them in many different ways.
Take Acyclovir. It interacts with the virus killing it (not all of them). And the same with many other antiviral. If each time they would actually change in appearance as you say they would not be able to design such antiviral.
-geo-
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One cannot see viruses in the blood. Viruses are too small to be observed with any standard light microscope. Royal Rife developed a heterodyning microscope in the 1920s and early 30s that utilized the lower sidebands of light and mono-prismatic light to stain virus sized entities with light thus allowing him to see into a new microscopic world. Recently a few new microscopes have achieved similar results, the best known being the Ergonom developed in Germany.
http://www.rife.de/the-ergonom-microscope.html
Rife referred to electron microscopes as being 'shadow graphs' and stated that they are virtually worthless. So much damage and distortion occurs that identical samples appear very different each time a new sample gets prepped and stained. The same originating sample can thus appear as an entirely different specimen every time a new slide is prepared from the original sample.
It is probably best said that viruses and bacteria do not directly cause an illness but indirectly they do. it is the toxins that they excrete that produces the symptomatology of their associated disease. It is their chemical constituents that act upon the tissues of the body which produce the affects. For instance, the enzymes of MMP 1 & 3 are closely associated with human breast cancer. In earlier times these substances were known as necrone, an enzyme that eats and subsequently destroys healthy tissue by dissolving the collagen and are thus called collogenases. Much like the outer rim of a grass fire, collagenase encroaches on fresh tissue as it spreads out from its loci.