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LM dosing instructions

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:20 pm
by Sheri Nakken
just providing this to you for an example
NOT for you to be doing unless a homeoapth

For Chronic cases - dosing - DIFFERENT than for
acutes ........(same for animals as humans)

Mostly I provide the water remedy

Here is how I work with water potencies using a
technique taught by Luc de Schepper, based on
Hahnemann's teachings in 5th & 6th edition of Organon

Water potencies allow you to change the potency before each dose, slightly
Water potencies allow you to speed the cure by allow repetition
Water potencies allow you to ease the cure
(aggravations less or non-existent - if
aggravations occur usually pass quickly with
water potencies as opposed to dry doses)

The below is for working with chronic cases
(minor acute and first aid dosing is very
different - here we use higher potencies for the most part)

Luc De Schepper
Book: Achieving and Maintaining the Simillimum
An excellent book explaining water
potencies for the practitioner working with
chronic cases (minor acutes, not part of chronic
picture and first aid require higher potencies in
most cases - ie 200C or 1M or more)

Potency and dose used are based on sensitivity of
patient. Usually start with C potencies (6C, 12C
for more sensitive; 30C for less sensitive) in
water as instructed in 5th edition of
Organon. If patient not sensitive, may start
with LM's, although many patients who are
sensitive have aggravations, even with LM's.

Instructions to patient..............
It will be important for you to take the dose as
I've indicated below and contact me within 2 days
of taking the remedy and let me know exactly what
went on with you - any changes of any kind...........
1. improving - that may be hard to tell as you
don't have the arrhythmias daily
2. no change
3. any symptoms improve at all
4. any symptoms get worse
5. any new symptoms
6. any old symptoms return.

Frequency of dose will depend on initial
reaction. Dilution of dose will depend on
sensitivity of patient and initial reaction.

When you receive the remedy, let me know so I
know the first day you take the remedy

Instructions for Taking Your Homeopathic Remedy
(blanks filled in according to what I think the patient should start with)

If you have a dry pillule, put one pillule in a
____________ oz. (number of ounces depends on
sensitivity -if someone is very sensitive will
use an 8 oz bottle with water and vodka as
preservative; otherwise I use 6 oz bottle of water & vodka.)

(Add 15 drops of alcohol or vodka to a 4 oz
bottle, 22 drops to a 6 oz bottle and 30 drops to
an 8 oz bottle. However as Hahnemannn also
advises, if one lives in hot damp climate he
would put up to one third of alcohol in the
bottles. Obviously they did not have
refrigerators then and the same situation can
still occur when you work in third world
countries. Otherwise putting it in refrigerator
and even in cupboard away from sun would be ok
with regular dose of alcohol. For those that are
in AA and refuse to have any alcohol as a
preservative, use glycerin in same amounts.

Ideally the water should be distilled or filtered
or bottled pure spring water. Stir vigorously
with a spoon for first dose after pillule
dissolves. Use a glass or plastic cup and spoon
which you will only use for this remedy, not for
food or for other remedies. Label the cup (you
can keep the cup and spoon just for you to reuse
in some place safe - no one else should use)
1. The first dose doesn't need to be succussed
after the pillule dissolved - just stir to
mix. Subsequent doses need succussing. Succuss
the glass bottle (called RSB) each time before
taking a subsequent dose: that is, hit the
bottle against the palm of your hand or a
leather-bound book ____ times (# of times
determined by sensitivity and initial reaction
and experience using water potencies). Give it a
good hard whack from a distance of about 2 feet.
(like a judge with a gavel - hard downward stroke
- purposeful downward stroke for each one)

2. Take _________ from the bottle (amount
depends on sensitivity of patient - often will
start with 1 teaspoon but if very sensitive may
have to use less) and put it in a cup of 4 oz. of
water (Dosage Cup) (may even use 2 or 3 dilution
cups - depending on initial reaction). (Ideally
the water should be distilled or filtered or
bottled pure spring water but tap water is
acceptable if that is all you have). Stir
vigorously with a spoon for first dose after
pillule dissolves. Use a glass or plastic cup
and spoon which you will only use for this
remedy, not for food or for other
remedies. Label the cup (you can keep the cup
and spoon just for you to reuse in some place safe - no one else should use)

3. Take ________ from the Dosage Cup ONCE.
(amount again depends on patient - often will
start with 1 tsp from dosage cup - if patients
proves to be extremely sensitive may use more
than one dosage cup, diluting the remedy further
- ie take 1 teaspoon from dosage cup and put in a
2nd 4 oz dosage cup - can even go further than
that to 3 or 4 dosage cups or use drops instead of teaspoons)

4. Discard the rest of the water in the
cup. NEVER DRINK THE WHOLE CUP. Do not save it
overnight. You need to make a new cup the next
time you are instructed to take a dose, after
succussing the remedy bottle again. Otherwise
you will not be following the methodical and
systematic progression of potencies which are
part of this healing system, and you may
interfere with the progress of your cure. (can
save the actual cup though as above)

5. If this is a first time dose, call or email
me in ___2____ days, to me know how you reacted
to the remedy. I will call you or email you back
with instructions for further dosing.

Special Precautions:
· Keep it out of direct sunlight and away
from heat (eg. NOT in the glove compartment of your car on a hot day).
· Do not eat or drink anything for 20
minutes before or after taking your remedy. Also
avoid taking around the time you brush your teeth
· Coffee may alter the effects of the
remedy. Drinking coffee may antidote the
remedy. Tea is acceptable as are other
caffeine-containing foods like cola and chocolate.

After taking your first dose:
1. DON'T REPEAT THE REMEDY.
Wait and observe changes-mentally, emotionally, and physically.
1. improving
2. no change
3. any symptoms improve at all
4. any symptoms get worse
5. any new symptoms
6. any old symptoms return.

2. Call me or email me

3. Once we get you on a schedule for the remedy:
a. If you notice an aggravation at
any time, stop taking the remedy, and call me.
b. If you notice the return of an
old symptom, stop taking the remedy and call me.
c. If you develop a symptom you've
NEVER had before, stop taking the remedy and call me
d. If I am not available and you
don't know what to do, STOP taking the remedy.
e. If you notice a greater than 50%
improvement, stop taking the remedy - I will be
in touch more about this once we have you on a schedule

4. After you are on a schedule, email me once a
week with an update. I will continually evaluate your response to the remedy
Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
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Re: LM dosing instructions

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:22 pm
by Sheri Nakken
here are Dr. Luc lectures for the public that go into the dosing

http://www.drluc.com/general-articles.htm
Homeopathic Lecture Series for the Public--new articles!

* Homeopathic Lecture #1: The Laws of Similars and Dissimilars
* Homeopathic Lecture #2: The Watery Doses In Homeopathy and the Dosing (How Much to give?)
* Homeopathic Lecture #3: The Potency of the Remedy (How Strong?) and the Repetition of the Dose (How often?)
* Homeopathic Lecture #4: ?How to judge the response to the first intake of your remedy? (and the consequent doses)?
Sheri
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Re: LM dosing instructions

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:05 am
by R
I think David Little would disagree with the advice to give
6C or 12C for sensitive patients. As I said earlier you can
adjust LMs _infinitely_ for sensitivity. Hahnemann developed
LMs particularly because of his concern for the sensitivity of
his patients and in order to speed up the cure.

You can use as many dilution cups as you need to make the remedy
dose extremely gentle i.e. after succussion take a tsp from the RSB, put it in the first cup, stir it, take a tsp from the first cup, put it in the second cup, stir it, take a tsp from the second cup, ... ad infinitum, and then take a tsp from the final cup as the dose.
This is much more gentle than giving whatever C potency directly or in water.

You certainly can have strong aggravations with LMs but you can
easily avoid them also and you still have the benefits of
changing the potency slightly each time, giving the remedy
repeatedly, and giving it in water which speeds the cure.

There is not so much need to wait for the action of the remedy to exhaust itself with LMs because you are slightly changing the potency (by succussion) each time it is given.

5th Edition Organon presented the method of giving Cs in water by the plussing method. 6th Edition presented the LM method which H. thought was an important improvement in posology. It seems like it was one of his main reasons for writing the 6th edition.

I would encourage folks to use LMs. I think it will discourage you from going back to 4th or 5th edition posology.

Roger

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fferent - here we use higher potencies for the most part)

Re: LM dosing instructions

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:21 pm
by geo
I agree. LMs are the result of Hahnemann’s latest experiments. Nonetheless he– in his last cases – clearly used CHs and LMs in the same tratment.
Here is one example from D. Little’s article:

This casebook contains records from October 1841 to Hahnemann’s passing on July 2nd, 1843. This case history includes single doses by olfaction, a short series of doses of the medical solutions and a good amount of placebos. In the Everest case, Hahnemann administered 8 remedies between October 5th, 1842 and May 2nd 1843 in 17 remedial prescriptions and 16 prescriptions containing placebos. The dates of the remedy prescriptions and placebos are listed below for easy reference

October 5th, 1842; Sulphur 0/1 in 7 tablespoons medicinal solution.

October 12th; Sulphur 0/2 in 7 tablespoons medicinal solution.

October 14th; Placebo.

October 26th, Sulphur 0/3 in 7 tablespoons medicinal solution.

November 4th; Placebo.

December 3rd; Sulphur 0/4 in 7 tablespoons medicinal solution.

December 14th; Sulphur 0/5 in 7 tablespoons medicinal solution.

December 21st; Placebo.

December 28th; Cannabis 30C in 7 tablespoons medicinal solution.

January 4th, 1843; Placebo.

January 7th; Placebo.

January 11th; Single dose olfaction of Thuja and placebos.

January 14th; Placebos.

January 18th; Single dose olfaction of Cannabis and placebos.

January 21st; Single dose olfaction of Mercury and four placebos.

January 25th; Thuja 0/1 in 7 tablespoons medicinal solution.

February 3rd; Thuja 0/2 in 7 tablespoons medicinal solution.

February 10th; Placebo.

February 17th; Placebo.

February 24th; Placebo.

February 25th; Mercury Vivus 0/1 in 7 tablespoons medicinal solution.

March 7th; Placebo.

March 15th; Ambra Grisea 0/1 in 7 tablespoons medicinal solution.

March 20th; Placebo.

March 25th; Cinnabaris 0/21 in a 7 tablespoons medicinal solution.

March 31st; Placebo.

April 3rd; Placebo cont.

April 8th, Sulphur 0/6 in 7 tablespoons medicinal solution.

April 21st, Aurum 30C in 7 tablespoons medicinal solution.

April 24th, Placebo.

April 28th; Nux Vomica 0/2 in 7 tablespoons medicinal solution.

May 2nd; Nux Vomica 0/3 in 7 tablespoons medicinal solution, for the West Indies.

-geovani-

From: R
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:05 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Re: LM dosing instructions
I think David Little would disagree with the advice to give
6C or 12C for sensitive patients. As I said earlier you can
adjust LMs _infinitely_ for sensitivity. Hahnemann developed
LMs particularly because of his concern for the sensitivity of
his patients and in order to speed up the cure.

You can use as many dilution cups as you need to make the remedy
dose extremely gentle i.e. after succussion take a tsp from the RSB, put it in the first cup, stir it, take a tsp from the first cup, put it in the second cup, stir it, take a tsp from the second cup, ... ad infinitum, and then take a tsp from the final cup as the dose.
This is much more gentle than giving whatever C potency directly or in water.

You certainly can have strong aggravations with LMs but you can
easily avoid them also and you still have the benefits of
changing the potency slightly each time, giving the remedy
repeatedly, and giving it in water which speeds the cure.

There is not so much need to wait for the action of the remedy to exhaust itself with LMs because you are slightly changing the potency (by succussion) each time it is given.

5th Edition Organon presented the method of giving Cs in water by the plussing method. 6th Edition presented the LM method which H. thought was an important improvement in posology. It seems like it was one of his main reasons for writing the 6th edition.

I would encourage folks to use LMs. I think it will discourage you from going back to 4th or 5th edition posology.

Roger

--- In mailto:minutus%40yahoogroups.com, Sheri Nakken wrote:
fferent - here we use higher potencies for the most part)
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Re: LM dosing instructions

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:09 pm
by Shannon Nelson
I had really appreciated David Little's advice and perspective on the issue of potency, and that was that they all have their place, different tools for different tasks. Some of my folks will NOT use LMs, but do just fine with Cs, either high or low. Why insist on using the same tool for every job, even if there is another that will fill the current need more easily?

Re: LM dosing instructions

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:05 pm
by R
I dont disagree with using other potencies, Cs, Xs, whatever. I was just trying to say that you can handle sensitive clients as or more effectively with LMs than Cs.

Roger

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Re: LM dosing instructions

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:22 pm
by Sheri Nakken
II don't think he would disagree but even if he did, it doesn't matter
It makes a huge difference for those who can't do the LMs no matter what we do.
I use Cs in water (as in 5th edition) and LMs with much success
sheri

Re: LM dosing instructions

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:23 pm
by Sheri Nakken
Cs in water or LMs (in water) - both can be
effective (5th edition for Cs and 6th edition for addition of LMs)
Sheri

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Re: LM dosing instructions

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:55 pm
by geo
Yes. I understand.
-geo-
From: R
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:05 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Re: LM dosing instructions
I dont disagree with using other potencies, Cs, Xs, whatever. I was just trying to say that you can handle sensitive clients as or more effectively with LMs than Cs.

Roger

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Re: LM dosing instructions

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:20 pm
by Sheri Nakken
I don't agree, Roger
Sheri

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