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Feline Hypertension

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:40 pm
by jules288us
Hello,

I live in a remote area outside of Montreal, Canada and there just aren't any homeopathic vets anywhere near me.

Two weeks ago (New years) my semi-elderly (15) cat had a stroke of some sort coincidently (or not) after receiving a dose from a cat asthma inhaler I was loathe to use in the first place. Her right eyeball was a little swollen and looked like it had some dark brown spots inside of it. She staggered and was clearly very, very weak. Thinking it was the end, I dosed her with Ars. alb.30ch just hoping she would pass peacefully.

Well, to our surprise, she survived and very slowly began to get stronger.(but not exactly strong)and recover...her eye returned to almost normal.Swelling gone, just the spots... I saw then that it was actually blood that was inside the eye as the spots pooled and when I dabbed some leakage from her eye, it was blood. she ate, drank and did her constitution and slowly walked around but it was clear her eyesight had been affected. She's almost totally blind now. Despite the other eye being o.k. Still, she was looking 'on the mend'...

Then all of a sudden on thursday afternoon, her other (left) eye swelled up dramatically, and had blood in it. I gave her some aconite (and Rescue Remedy for all of us)and searched like crazy for a 'more appropriate' remedy, while, hubby called literally, all across Canada looking for a Homeopathic Vet that might help us. They were all still on holidays or wouldn't come to the phone.

I was able to get in touch with my mostly-retired allopathic vet,(he happened to be in the office that evening) who diagnosed Pippen with 'hypertension' after my description of what was going on. He called in to a drugstore an allopathic hypertension medicine which he told me was 'serious medicine' and once I start, could never stop...

It has all kinds of side effects...:-(

I figured that was what got Pippen into trouble in the first place, and realllllly want to find a homeopathic remedy that will help her. The vet said because of her agethe hypertension is 'secondary' she more than likely has kidney troubles now as well as some heart issues and mentionned that the medicine he prescribed would possibly 'give her a few more months'. (she was healthy, 'normal' (except for the asthma thing) before I used the inhaler on her...)

Hubby picked up the Hypertension medicine yesterday afternoon, but I didn't give it to her, as her eyes seemed to be definitely on the mend and frankly I think the allopathic medicine will kill her in short order if her kidneys/heart are comprimised...but I don't want her little head to explode with these swellings either!
Last evening, I see that the other eye (original one) is now swollen again and so dosed with aconite(30ch) and then as one of my books mentionned, Belladonna. I only have 15Ch which I put into four ounces of water, took a spoon, then put that into another four ounces of water and dosed from there)...The book said to do that alternatively with Aconite for up to four doses. I did each one twice (30 mins. inbetween) and went to bed.

Woke up at 1:30 a.m. and the right eye wasn't any better and perhaps a little worse. I dosed with the Ars.Alb. Woke up half an hour ago...No better...Dosed with the Bella donna as that is the only thing that I have that speaks directly about her eye swelling and hypertension issues....So far no change, and I am reaching out if anyone here on this forum can help me please...I will go to the allopathic medicine later today, if I can't help her homeopathically...

I know she probably hasn't alot of time(years), but I wanted her to pass more peacefully at home when her natural end would come. I've heard that once the allopathic stuff is started, it leads to a very, very unpleasant/hard passing...Please if anyone can help steer me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it. I'm scared...I'm very torn as to what is the 'right' thing to do for her right now...

I just checked her again, she's sleeping with hubby and I dare say it, but I think there is a small positive change in the size of the swelling...Anybody?

Thank you for any, all help.

Aileen Donovan.

Re: Feline Hypertension

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:47 pm
by Tanya Marquette
So sorry for you kitty. Have you considered any detoxing for the cat?
I had a cat who developed seizures which seemed to come from a build up of toxins over the years
and whatever stress was there. Also, because of the repeat seizures she developed blindness. Cats
do quite well when blind, believe it or not. Not something that makes us comfortable tho.
What are you feeding the cat?
tanya
From: jules288us
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 6:40 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Feline Hypertension

Hello,

I live in a remote area outside of Montreal, Canada and there just aren't any homeopathic vets anywhere near me.

Two weeks ago (New years) my semi-elderly (15) cat had a stroke of some sort coincidently (or not) after receiving a dose from a cat asthma inhaler I was loathe to use in the first place. Her right eyeball was a little swollen and looked like it had some dark brown spots inside of it. She staggered and was clearly very, very weak. Thinking it was the end, I dosed her with Ars. alb.30ch just hoping she would pass peacefully.

Well, to our surprise, she survived and very slowly began to get stronger.(but not exactly strong)and recover...her eye returned to almost normal.Swelling gone, just the spots... I saw then that it was actually blood that was inside the eye as the spots pooled and when I dabbed some leakage from her eye, it was blood. she ate, drank and did her constitution and slowly walked around but it was clear her eyesight had been affected. She's almost totally blind now. Despite the other eye being o.k. Still, she was looking 'on the mend'...

Then all of a sudden on thursday afternoon, her other (left) eye swelled up dramatically, and had blood in it. I gave her some aconite (and Rescue Remedy for all of us)and searched like crazy for a 'more appropriate' remedy, while, hubby called literally, all across Canada looking for a Homeopathic Vet that might help us. They were all still on holidays or wouldn't come to the phone.

I was able to get in touch with my mostly-retired allopathic vet,(he happened to be in the office that evening) who diagnosed Pippen with 'hypertension' after my description of what was going on. He called in to a drugstore an allopathic hypertension medicine which he told me was 'serious medicine' and once I start, could never stop...

It has all kinds of side effects...:-(

I figured that was what got Pippen into trouble in the first place, and realllllly want to find a homeopathic remedy that will help her. The vet said because of her agethe hypertension is 'secondary' she more than likely has kidney troubles now as well as some heart issues and mentionned that the medicine he prescribed would possibly 'give her a few more months'. (she was healthy, 'normal' (except for the asthma thing) before I used the inhaler on her...)

Hubby picked up the Hypertension medicine yesterday afternoon, but I didn't give it to her, as her eyes seemed to be definitely on the mend and frankly I think the allopathic medicine will kill her in short order if her kidneys/heart are comprimised...but I don't want her little head to explode with these swellings either!

Last evening, I see that the other eye (original one) is now swollen again and so dosed with aconite(30ch) and then as one of my books mentionned, Belladonna. I only have 15Ch which I put into four ounces of water, took a spoon, then put that into another four ounces of water and dosed from there)...The book said to do that alternatively with Aconite for up to four doses. I did each one twice (30 mins. inbetween) and went to bed.

Woke up at 1:30 a.m. and the right eye wasn't any better and perhaps a little worse. I dosed with the Ars.Alb. Woke up half an hour ago...No better...Dosed with the Bella donna as that is the only thing that I have that speaks directly about her eye swelling and hypertension issues....So far no change, and I am reaching out if anyone here on this forum can help me please...I will go to the allopathic medicine later today, if I can't help her homeopathically...

I know she probably hasn't alot of time(years), but I wanted her to pass more peacefully at home when her natural end would come. I've heard that once the allopathic stuff is started, it leads to a very, very unpleasant/hard passing...Please if anyone can help steer me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it. I'm scared...I'm very torn as to what is the 'right' thing to do for her right now...

I just checked her again, she's sleeping with hubby and I dare say it, but I think there is a small positive change in the size of the swelling...Anybody?

Thank you for any, all help.

Aileen Donovan.

Re: Feline Hypertension

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:51 pm
by jules288us
Hi Tanya,

Thank you for responding.
Pippen is one of 9 rescues inside the house.She was first inside, and wasn't happy when all the others came in over the past two years. (we have a colony of around 30 who live in the outbuildings of our 'farm' which we feed every day) She was brought inside 4 years ago after having been in a serious fight with some other wild thing out there.

We have two other blind cats in the house. They do great :-)

Pippen's been on a mostly raw diet. When outside we supplement the ferals with ground chicken carcasses and pureed beef liver along with some dry food(especially in winter as the other stuff freezes)

Pippen became an 'only indoor' cat when we brought her inside after she was wounded in some sort of an animal attack. We've been more careful with Pippen's diet since she was diagnosed with asthma last july. She gets alot of raw chicken/beef/organ meats/ and We did get some cans of a grain free 'nature's variety Instinct' to vary her diet more. rabbit/venison/turkey/quail etc...She likes it, which is everything of course...

She never was a big eater...but she hasn't been a big 'mover' either in recent years. She's probably around 10-12pounds. She was very difficult to get supplements into, but since the asthma, we've made sure to get salmon oil into her...and since this happened a few days ago, I have given her her very small amounts of adrenal glandulars,thymus glandulars, Ubiquinol Q10, a few drops of Astragalus Root (this is toated as good hypertension support) Then I remembered I still had some F3 BioPreparation,(which can replace all the other supplements) and put her on the MMS-protocol 1000. So, those things, plus the homeopathic remedies hoping to get this hypertension under control.

Keeping all the other cats away from her(not easy, as they too need to be tended to for various reasons.and it's a small farmhouse...But now Pippi's moved into the bedroom with us, so,she does have the privacy she needs.

I can see that stress has helped put her in this position. I'm surprised I haven't had a stroke in recent years....;-)
We moved into this farm in 1998(no farm animals, just wanted the private area for our 6 dogs (now all deceased). Pippi showed up here,full grown, the first cat after the resident barn cat perished in a raccoon attack. She was 'queen' at the farm until we had her spayed 3 years later and she lost her status. This was a blow...

When we brought her in, she was 'queen' in the house again, keeping her status when 3 other kittens were brought in (the two blind ones and a mentally challenged one) But this past summer when a 'newcomer' came to the farm, made her way inside and proceeded to have her kittens under the nightstand, well, if we were able to have gotten homes for those 4 healthy kitties it would have helped, but I think allowing them to stay inside the house really affected Pippi...I know it has really affected me!!! lol...(Hubby turned a bedroom upstairs into their 'playhouse' now and so they are upstairs, the other 'challenged' 3 are downstairs in their 'special area' and well, Pippi had her own room upstairs, but abandoned it for our bedroom after the kittens were moved up to the room adjacent there...
Anyway, we all had 'found our place' I believe until the inhaler incident on New Year's...Now this horrible swelling thing is very frightening and I'm really feeling like using the allopathic hypertension medicine will be a 'death sentence'....but I need to help get this swelling down as I am freaked about what this will do to her now...Has this info. helped?

Thank you Tanya!
I appreciate your time.
Sincerely,
Aileen Donovan.
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "tamarque" wrote:

Re: Feline Hypertension

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:29 pm
by Tanya Marquette
Aileen,
There are homeopaths who will do distance healing by phone. I am sure you
prefer to find one in Canada and not incur international phone rates. Altho,
Skype is a free service if both parties use it. It works great.
I would offer to help, but don’t feel knowledgeable enough about the cat’s condition.
Of course, the cat’s case should be taken as any case would be.
Raw Paws is an online yahoo group that seems knowledgeable about cats and might
have some collective wisdom on this cat’s condition. They are not a homeopathic group,
but support holistic health care.
Perhaps some of the vets on minutus will tune in to offer some insights.
t
tanya
From: jules288us
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 7:51 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Re: Feline Hypertension

Hi Tanya,

Thank you for responding.
Pippen is one of 9 rescues inside the house.She was first inside, and wasn't happy when all the others came in over the past two years. (we have a colony of around 30 who live in the outbuildings of our 'farm' which we feed every day) She was brought inside 4 years ago after having been in a serious fight with some other wild thing out there.

We have two other blind cats in the house. They do great :-)

Pippen's been on a mostly raw diet. When outside we supplement the ferals with ground chicken carcasses and pureed beef liver along with some dry food(especially in winter as the other stuff freezes)

Pippen became an 'only indoor' cat when we brought her inside after she was wounded in some sort of an animal attack. We've been more careful with Pippen's diet since she was diagnosed with asthma last july. She gets alot of raw chicken/beef/organ meats/ and We did get some cans of a grain free 'nature's variety Instinct' to vary her diet more. rabbit/venison/turkey/quail etc...She likes it, which is everything of course...

She never was a big eater...but she hasn't been a big 'mover' either in recent years. She's probably around 10-12pounds. She was very difficult to get supplements into, but since the asthma, we've made sure to get salmon oil into her...and since this happened a few days ago, I have given her her very small amounts of adrenal glandulars,thymus glandulars, Ubiquinol Q10, a few drops of Astragalus Root (this is toated as good hypertension support) Then I remembered I still had some F3 BioPreparation,(which can replace all the other supplements) and put her on the MMS-protocol 1000. So, those things, plus the homeopathic remedies hoping to get this hypertension under control.

Keeping all the other cats away from her(not easy, as they too need to be tended to for various reasons.and it's a small farmhouse...But now Pippi's moved into the bedroom with us, so,she does have the privacy she needs.

I can see that stress has helped put her in this position. I'm surprised I haven't had a stroke in recent years....;-)
We moved into this farm in 1998(no farm animals, just wanted the private area for our 6 dogs (now all deceased). Pippi showed up here,full grown, the first cat after the resident barn cat perished in a raccoon attack. She was 'queen' at the farm until we had her spayed 3 years later and she lost her status. This was a blow...

When we brought her in, she was 'queen' in the house again, keeping her status when 3 other kittens were brought in (the two blind ones and a mentally challenged one) But this past summer when a 'newcomer' came to the farm, made her way inside and proceeded to have her kittens under the nightstand, well, if we were able to have gotten homes for those 4 healthy kitties it would have helped, but I think allowing them to stay inside the house really affected Pippi...I know it has really affected me!!! lol...(Hubby turned a bedroom upstairs into their 'playhouse' now and so they are upstairs, the other 'challenged' 3 are downstairs in their 'special area' and well, Pippi had her own room upstairs, but abandoned it for our bedroom after the kittens were moved up to the room adjacent there...

Anyway, we all had 'found our place' I believe until the inhaler incident on New Year's...Now this horrible swelling thing is very frightening and I'm really feeling like using the allopathic hypertension medicine will be a 'death sentence'....but I need to help get this swelling down as I am freaked about what this will do to her now...Has this info. helped?

Thank you Tanya!
I appreciate your time.
Sincerely,
Aileen Donovan.

--- In mailto:minutus%40yahoogroups.com, "tamarque" wrote:

Re: Feline Hypertension

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:50 pm
by jules288us
Hi Tanya,

We don't have high speed where I live, so 'skype' is out...
I do know homeopaths will do distance consultations however I mentioned that I called every Canadian homeopath that I could find listed in various books I own, none responded or were on vacation. I was hoping one of the vets here would respond... I feel very pressed for time here, as I don't want Pippi to stroke out and that swelling in her right eye is still 'swollen'....I DON"T want to start on the allopathic drugs as I feel they are just another death sentence.

My knowledge base isn't up to par about homeopathy to feel secure in what my next step is here, but as far as nutrition goes,or other holistic methods, I'm pretty sure I'm already doing whatever they would suggest. i'll look up 'raw paws' but I'm really looking for homeopathic help and don't want to get side-tracked. Do you think if I asked someone on that list what they did in a 'feline hypertension' situation they could help me?

I would greatly appreciate any homeopathic vet who feels they could help me here to contact me here or privately.

At this point, I guess I will continue to give Ars. Alb.30ch(the only strength I have) changing the 30ch dose with more dilution?

I really hoped the Belladonna would work....

Thanks Tanya, for any all help.

Sincerely,
Aileen
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "tamarque" wrote:

Re: Feline Hypertension

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:15 pm
by Leilanae
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "jules288us" wrote:

snip..................

Maybe also ask on the Yahoo group Vethom-Friends.

Leilanae

Re: Feline Hypertension

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:32 pm
by jules288us
Thank you Leilanae.

I've joined/written so many groups today, and no one has responded...

I've ordered a remedy unfortunately it won't arrive in Mtl. until Tuesday. I don't know if Pippi will still be here by then...
Aileen
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "leilanae" wrote:

Re: Feline Hypertension

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:30 pm
by Dale Moss
Hi, Aileen
It's scary when our pets suddenly have a health crisis; it's doubly scary when nothing seems to help.
Here is a rubric you might find useful:

EYE - BLEEDING from eyes

acon.k ail.k2,tl1 aloek alumn.k2 am-c.k am-caust.k Apisb7a.de Arn.bg2,bro1,k,tl1 bell.b4.de,b4a.de,bg2,k BOTH.k,ptk1 Calc.bg2,k camph.k Carb-v.bg2,k,mtf33 Cham.b7.de,b7a.de,bg2,k coff.b7a.de cor-r.k CROT-H.bg2,k,ptk1 dig.k elapsk euphr.b7.de,bg2,k ham.bg2,bro1,k2 Kali-chl.k kali-i.k2 kreos.k2 LACH.b7a.de,bg2,bro1,c2,k,mtf33,ptk1 led.bg,br1,bro1,tl1 nit-ac.k NUX-V.b7.de,bg2,k,mtf33,ptk1 PHOS.bg2,k,ptk1 plb.k raph.k rutab7.de,bg2,k seneg.bg2 SUL-AC.bg,bro1 Sulph.k suprar.bro1

Note that three of the top-graded remedies are snake remedies, Bothrops, Crotalus horridus, and Lachesis. Because Pippen's bleeding started in her right eye, you may be looking at a right-sided snake remedy, such as Bothrops, which has bleeding in the eyes from a stroke. I urge you to read up on it and see if it fits, because if it's what's needed now, no amount of Ars. or Belladonna will help.

This is a remedy you'd have to order, unless you have a homeopath who deals with people near you who's willing to sell or give you a few doses.

Actually, if you can't find a homeopathic vet, you might want to consult a regular homeopath, who should be able to help, if he or she is willing.

Good luck to you and Pippen!

Peace,

Dale

Re: Feline Hypertension

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:59 pm
by jules288us
Hi Dale!

I highly appreciate your response! It is really tough when a Being you love is experiencing pain and it's not something in my power to 'genie-blink' them well.... (God/ess knows I've tried ;-)

I will read up on the Bothrops.
So far, what seems to fit her best in my research is 'Lycopus Virginicus' which also is not in any health-store and needed to be ordered and Tuesday is the earliest it may arrive in Montreal. (Then we have to get it out where we live)

Last evening she developed a 'juicy cough' which is probably connected with her asthma, acting up again, though could be her heart (which was news to me as when she was diagnosed with asthma in July, vet said her heart was fine) I dosed with the Ars. alb because that is what has helped her *generally* the best since this all started. (and because I can go to the Carbo veg after as opposed to the other way around) Carbo veg is what has helped stop asthma attacks almost instantly in the past.

Today the swelling is definitely down, but she still keeps the right eye closed with still a small amount of 'weeping' bloodied secretion and the left eye half closed. No secretion there. They both open more after nightfall. I think the closed one just 'feels better' to be kept closed for now...

I did check with a homeopath, when I called the health store asking about the Virginicus, at first he said 'that's not right, it's a liver remedy' then went and checked his books and came back saying, 'Actually that does seem to fit best'....So, fingers crossed...

One thing...or maybe two I always must remind myself and that is, 1) Every living thing has their own 'life chart' to live...If it is 'written' there, that I may help, then as I search without ceasing, the knowledge will be found by me....And 2)I'm NOT God.(repeat, then repeat again! lol)..I can only do the very best that I can with the knowledge that I have, the rest is up to and between the 'patient' and the God of their belief....

But DAMN, I won't go quietly into that dark night.... ;-)

Thank you again Dale, your kind response gives me hope.

Bless Your Heart,
Aileen
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Dale Moss" wrote:

Re: Feline Hypertension

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:58 pm
by Dale Moss
I'm sort of scratching my head over Lycopus as well. It's a heart remedy, but more for problems like arrhythmia and tachycardia related to thyroid problems, not for hypertension. Nor is it a hemorrhagic remedy or one that covers strokes.
But good luck to you. I hope it works.
Peace,
Dale