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12c +

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:47 pm
by jtikari
Chandaran Numbiar says,"
Don't Worry About 'Drug Relationship'- Drugs Potentized Above 12c Cannot Have Any Mutual Interaction
One needs to think about this...it's pretty revolutionary.
Jeff

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Re: 12c +

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:08 pm
by Soroush Ebrahimi
It is ploy to say that you can give remedies in combination!
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Sent: 30 September 2011 15:48
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Subject: [Minutus] 12c +
Chandaran Numbiar says,"

Don’t Worry About ‘Drug Relationship’- Drugs Potentized Above 12c Cannot Have Any Mutual Interaction
One needs to think about this...it's pretty revolutionary.
Jeff
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web site - http://www.jeffspage.com

Re: 12c +

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:56 am
by jtikari
But if it is potentised to sub atomic levels, how can there be a physical reaction?
Jeff

Re: 12c +

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:30 pm
by Soroush Ebrahimi
Physical reaction where? Between the two substances or the vital force/body?

Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jtikari
Sent: 01 October 2011 01:57
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] 12c +
But if it is potentised to sub atomic levels, how can there be a physical reaction?
Jeff

Re: 12c +

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:59 pm
by Tanya Marquette
Jeff
The physical reaction is that of the body reacting, or trying tor react to different remedies
at the same time. This can cause confusion in the vital force.
Mixing remedies in the way you purport is allopathy. Nothing revolutionary there.
With all due respect, do you have any understanding of homeopathy at all?
t

Re: 12c +

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:00 pm
by John Harvey
If it is potentised beyond molecularity, how can it have any action at all, Jeff? When you know the answer to that question, you may also have a key to how one potency can affect another. But that's almost a side issue. Many drug interactions are not based at all upon chemical interaction between the drugs themselves but upon some synergy in their dynamic effects (which may have, in heroic doses, to do with serial chemical reactions at target sites, and, in ultramolecular doses, with serial dynamic reactions at the same sites).

I think that Soroush is right: that it is, or can be, an attempt to legitimise polypharmacy, as usual.

But even without that end in mind, and considering just the usual "drug relationships", which concern the sequence of two or more remedies prescribed in their turn, the notion that the use of a particular ultramolecular medicine after another particular one will have no consequences simply because they are not acting chemically overlooks that they do nevertheless act.

Numbiar is clearly wrong in mistaking relationships of remedies to concern (merely) mutual drug interactions (they actually concern the sequence, the interval in which my be months!). He is clearly wrong also in presuming baselessly that two potencies cannot affect each other. There is every reason to suppose that they might. Finally, he is wrong also in omitting consideration of the synergy (and antergy) of their actions upon the organism itself. Hahnemann himself pointed out that the uncertainties escalate dramatically as the number of drugs affecting the patient increases. (I've previously posted calculations of the number of uncertainties in the case of two to six or so drugs, in one of the endless repetitive discussions concerning the highjacking of the name homoeopathy to mean allopathy of one brand or another.)
Cheers --

John