OT: pseudoscience

[RichardS]

Hello John, Tanya,
I very much agree that presenting the outright fraudulent, anti-scientific methods and results of conventional medicine is paramount to enlightening the general public at large.
But it should not "replace" the defense of or educating of those unfamiliar with or denying the relevance of Homeopathy.
We can do both.
I would also gladly contribute to any site dedicated to the objective collating of all of the shortcomings of modern medicine. It does not need to be within the context or framework of how awful it it is compared to anything but itself. It is grossly lacking in empirical findings and that is enough that it continuously falls flat on it's face.
A website set up in a way that would allow for comments after the article would be most beneficial.
I would suggest starting with this article:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arc ... ence/8269/
Best regards,
Rik
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[Tanya Marquette]

great article rik.
here is another site with a compendium of articles
www.dangerousprescriptiondrugs.weebly.com/index.html
the owner of this site is in the UK and will add to the list as articles are sent to her.
a Facebook site was begun where info could be loaded and reacted to but it is not activated due to overload of the person
who was setting it up.
tanya
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[John Harvey]

Rik, that article is a goldmine and a great read; thank you!
Tanya, that site looks set to overwhelm with evidence of dangerous drugs in the medicine cabinet.

Cheers!

John
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“Once, conscientious journals did not permit reviewers to take money from drugmakers… Today, medical-journal editors estimate that 95 percent of the academic-medicine specialists who assess patented treatments have financial relationships with pharmaceutical companies, and even the prestigious NEJM gave up its search for objective reviewers in June 1992, announcing that it could find no reviewers that did not accept industry funds.”
—Harriet Washington, "Flacking for Big Pharma", The American Scholar summer 2011.

[Tanya Marquette]

You are right John. The evidence of lack of science, faulty science and just plain fraud is rampant
in the medical industry.
There was one article either in the JAMA of Brit Med J that said 85% of
medicines fall into these categories of harm, worse than placebo, off use with no research at all
behind those prescriptions.
This week brought a new tack my way. I have gotten used to calls for lawsuits for drug damage on TV
but this week got one of these recorded calls for people damaged by Dilantin and being dx with Steven's Johnson disease,
whatever that may be--have to look it up. The drug is so widely prescribed that these lawfirms are doing a broad sweep of
the public with these calls.
Is it any wonder that legal medicine is the biggest cause of death in the US--the literature says 3rd biggest, but I think not since
these stats are only for deaths recorded in hospitals. And those death certificates often ignore the cause of heart failure or
cancer patient's deaths. The numbers also do not include reactions to medicine meted out in private offices or group practices
since there is no requirement to report adverse effects. And to add insult to injury, doctors often refuse to record a patients
complaint of adverse reaction to a drug or to their actual illness complaints themselves!
But the FDA now demands that all medical people record every little reaction to an herb or nutritional supplement and send it
in to the FDA database. Talk about cooking the books from both directions.
tanya
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[John Harvey]

Wow, is that so -- mandatory reporting of every reaction to herbs and supplements, eh? It'll be foods, next! But not, of course, anything under patent.

Cheers!

John

[Tanya Marquette]

Well, people need to clearly take in the world pack to destroy all natural products for health and healing. It is called the Codex Alimentarius
and has been in the works for several decades. The work of that UN agency, accomplished via the EU, has reached the level of development
that we are now seeing the heavy handedness of that agreement coming to fruition. The Codex is basically a trade agreement, similar to the WTO
which binds all signing nations to change their laws to conform.
The FDA, always the prostitute for Big Phama and the USDA, in a similar role for Big Agra and Big Chema, have become blazingly brutal in their
attacks on holistic protocols and natural/organic foods. The FDA has been waging military style attacks on farms producing raw milk and raw milk
products, and against health food distributors of raw milk and other natural foods. Many of these assaults have been caught on video for those who
doubt the terrorism of these attacks. Terrorism is not just about Islamophobia which is rampant these years, but also against anything organic, and
natural.
So, your statement about 'foods being next' is not unreal--it is already happening.
tanya
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