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vet rubrics

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:06 am
by jtikari
The input on this subject confirms what I said originally and expands on the mental levels and has enriched us all.
In some stories the human element is discernable, that is the story is told with our 'human' interpretation of it. The simile
of a small child and an animal is very apt.
When only mentals pertain then that is what is addressed. BUT the treatment has to be in the very early stages before the
symptoms become habit which in animals it often does.
Jeff

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Re: vet rubrics

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:24 am
by Shannon Nelson
In context of homeoathic prescribing, how would the situation of "symptoms becoming habit" be expressed or addressed differently in an animal than in a human? Certainly that too is true of both, and you wouldn't fail to prescribe on e.g. grief-based or trauma-based behaviors simply because they have continued for a long time. ?????

Shannon

Re: vet rubrics

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:23 am
by Fran Sheffield
My thoughts - I think habitual reflex actions are more likely in an animal as a means of survival - and a jolly good adaptation it is too.

As humans, cognition - thinking about things - comes into play as to whether the response to a trauma becomes a habit.

So, I guess it all comes down to cognition - we humans tend to think about things a lot more than an animal, which in turn impacts on our behaviours and responses - and this also should be factored in when considering symptoms.
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Re: vet rubrics

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:09 pm
by Tanya Marquette
Humans have the same flight/fight reactions as animals do. But we do have a cerebral aspect that we use to apply broader understandings
of what is occurring. But much of that learning has come after millenium of learning and understanding the world we live in.
The other aspect of the intellectuaal application is the defensive mode. Humans develop all kinds of reactions that mask and distort what we see,
and those often become the patterns of our lives; ie, neurotic behaviors and worse.
I think I disagree with you because I see humans learning on a cellular level. That is why rational explanations don't work in undoing learned
behavior patterns. In this we are very much like our furry companions. Homeopathy works because it by-passes the intellectual rationalizations
and defenses that we apply. In a sense working with animals is so much easier because they don't apply intellecutial rationalization and defenses
for dysfunctional behavior.
tanya
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Re: vet rubrics

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:25 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Can you give me an example or two?

Re: vet rubrics

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:25 pm
by Gisela Ahrendt
Tanya
I could not have said it better.
Gisela

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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: tamarque@earthlink.net
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 08:09:19 -0400
Subject: Re: [Minutus] vet rubrics
Humans have the same flight/fight reactions as animals do. But we do have a cerebral aspect that we use to apply broader understandings
of what is occurring. But much of that learning has come after millenium of learning and understanding the world we live in.
The other aspect of the intellectuaal application is the defensive mode. Humans develop all kinds of reactions that mask and distort what we see,
and those often become the patterns of our lives; ie, neurotic behaviors and worse.
I think I disagree with you because I see humans learning on a cellular level. That is why rational explanations don't work in undoing learned
behavior patterns. In this we are very much like our furry companions. Homeopathy works because it by-passes the intellectual rationalizations
and defenses that we apply. In a sense working with animals is so much easier because they don't apply intellecutial rationalization and defenses
for dysfunctional behavior.
tanya
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