Minutus

Hi, we have a 1 year old rescue dog, who was found very weak, dumped in the garbage at the age of 2 days old, with his 7 siblings, who one by one died, except for one brother.

Wednesday the house guinea pig died .. since then, the dog dares not go into the garden (the guinea pig died in the garden). He's always been afraid of dead animals. He walks away or starts to scream.

We think this is a consequence of the death of his brothers and sisters, perhaps because they died around him, still while he had his eyes shut.

Would this come under Fear of Death, or would it be another rubric?

Thank you!
Michelle

www.bulgarianstreetdogs.org

Animal expressions are sometimes interpreted through our human concepts – so selecting vocabulary can be difficult. You obviously know this individual well, so I expect you are discerning 'fear' as opposed to 'grief' or even 'sensing danger'. However the human 'fear of death' is usually not based on experience of physical death around one, but rather fear of what comes next, judgement, pain, separation, loss, etc. and that is what our 'fear of death' rubric is based upon. So I would be hesitant to interpret an animal's fear concerning dead animals in those terms – or use that rubric for an animal. You may get a better remedy indicated by using grief or sensing danger rubrics.

What is interesting is that you say he is always 'afraid' of dead animals. This is the 'rare and peculiar' for a canine – who should normally be driven by curiosity toward a dead animal. On a primal level he should normally perceive a dead animal as potential food. The healthy canine will even roll in the remains of a dead animal – the scent being interesting and exciting to them – not causing a fear reaction.

If the vocabulary (human vs animal perceptions) keeps you from finding a great remedy for this individual at this moment, consider Bach Flowers to give comfort to the dog and help him cope. I have had very good success with rescues (canine and wildlife) using the Bach Flowers for 'settling', which gives you a little time to breath and work out a good remedy without the stress factor covering up the other expressions.

Donna
D C Rona, PhD, ND, DHM

www.NaturopathOnTheWeb.com

www.DrRonaLikesJuicePlus.com

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Subject: [Minutus] Help with rubric for dog
Hi, we have a 1 year old rescue dog, who was found very weak, dumped in the garbage at the age of 2 days old, with his 7 siblings, who one by one died, except for one brother.

Wednesday the house guinea pig died .. since then, the dog dares not go into the garden (the guinea pig died in the garden). He's always been afraid of dead animals. He walks away or starts to scream.

We think this is a consequence of the death of his brothers and sisters, perhaps because they died around him, still while he had his eyes shut.

Would this come under Fear of Death, or would it be another rubric?

Thank you!
Michelle

www.bulgarianstreetdogs.org

Ah yes, of course! Thank you Donna.

We have tried the Bach Flowers, and they didn't help him at all.

I seem to recall reading "watched siblings die" as an 'ailment from' in the Materia Medica, and I thought it was Ambra Grisea, yet I don't see it now. Have you seen this?

Thanks again
Michelle

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, D C Rona wrote:

HI Michelle
What was the relationship between the dog and the guinea pig, if any.
Also, can you explain a bit more he's always been afraid of dead animals and walks away or starts to scream.
I don't think Fear of Death is the right rubric, but may be we can narrow it down to something more appropriate.
Regards
Christine Wyndham-Thomas
www.homoeopathyclassical.com
www.dogsonholiday-uk.com

How about this one:
Generals – History; personal – death of siblings when they are infants - syph
From Synthesis
Interesting to note there is an orange checkmark next to it which indicates specific veterinary rubric

I could not find one that was specific to 'watching siblings die'. But then, from what you have described, it does not sound like you are looking for 'ailment' from but rather a 'fear'.

Hope this helps.

Just out of curiosity – how long did you try the Bach Flower remedies – and were they selected based on his specific fears or issues? Or selected out of the general problems of rescue dogs? Have you tried them with this new incident of the death in the garden yesterday?

Donna
D C Rona, PhD, ND, DHM

www.NaturopathOnTheWeb.com

www.DrRonaLikesJuicePlus.com

rona@consultant.com
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Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:46:22 +0000
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Subject: [Minutus] Re: Help with rubric for dog
Ah yes, of course! Thank you Donna.

We have tried the Bach Flowers, and they didn't help him at all.

I seem to recall reading "watched siblings die" as an 'ailment from' in the Materia Medica, and I thought it was Ambra Grisea, yet I don't see it now. Have you seen this?

Thanks again
Michelle

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com , D C Rona wrote:

Having just had an interesting experience with a duck who sought shelter with us -- we'd had ducks a few years ago, and this one felt their energy here and thought we'd be sympathetic -- I'd suggest that your rescue dog is feeling the energy of the dead guinea pig. Rather than fear of death, he may be feeling fear of ghosts.
Opium or Stramonium would be likely contenders for helping him, depending upon his other symptoms.
Peace,
Dale

>according to the totality,it seems the patient here(the dog) has been having symptom ever since the siblings past away,ie 'never been well since',brothers and sister died.
good luck.
-joe