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Vitamin C info - source needs to be GMO-free (tapioca is the source)

Sources for Sodium Ascorbate..................(this is the part of
Vitamin C that was used in all the research out there)

Have to be very careful now - much sodium ascorbate is from corn and
corn is genetically engineered and much comes from China now

so I don't recommend Bronson anymore (they told me that some is from
China and some is not and can't guarantee that not from China and is
not gmo-free)

this is where I just got my last batch and its not cheap - 8 oz
bottle for around $40
http://www.vitapurity.com/index_c.html

In UK I got from Health Plus http://www.healthplus.co.uk BUT NEED
to check if GMO corn-free
in Australia - Melrose was suggested to me - BUT NEED to check if GMO corn-free
http://www.naturalcity.com.au/product.aspx?id=2333

or google +sodium+ascorbate+australia+corn-free
Sodium Ascorbate Powder OR Ascorbic Acid (none of the other types -
NO calcium ascorbate or other mineral ascorbates)

Ascorbic Acid for those of you more alkaline (if you know your pH of
your body - can test your saliva and urine and if above 6.4, use
ascorbic acid) (PS Ascorbic Acid can also help to bring your pH down
and make you less alkaline)

Sodium Ascorbate for those of you who are more acidic (if you know
your pH of your body - can test your saliva & urine and if below 6.4,
use sodium ascorbate). Sodium ascorbate is buffered with
Bicarb. Also if you have a hard time tolerating the Ascorbic Acid
(stomach discomfort), use Sodium Ascorbate. (if you are EXTREMELY
acidic - and many are - you probably won't even absorb Vitamin C
until you become less acidic and that is another story how to do that)

We DO NOT synthesize Vitamin C in our own bodies as most animals
do! We are genetically lacking an enzyme (most of us - some people
may have it and those are the ones who live longer and seem to be
able to do anything to their bodies - we don't know). Dogs and cats
don't synthesize much either and so you see them greatly wounded by
vaccination without ability to recover.

That is why this is needed and really shouldn't be thought of as a
vitamin. IT IS A MAJOR NUTRIENT that we are lacking and can't
synthesize. I'll tell you more about that.

I have found a great book which I will share about.

Here is info on dosage and source to buy (not usually available in
health food stores).
IN ILLNESS - You or your child take it in increasing doses until you
start to get loose bowel movements (or the baby does if you are
breastfeeding), then you know you have reached your limit. Then you
back off a bit. You need to take in 3 or so doses a day to keep your
stores up. Start with the maintaining dose below and work your way
up until you reach bowel tolerance and then back off and maintain that.

Also if want to give to the baby that you are nursing, express some
breastmilk, dissolve the vitamin C. Using a plastic dropper, drip it
into the inside of her cheek until all in, or get it into her as she
breastfeeds by inserting the dropper without breaking her "seal" -
not so easy!!!

Can give yourself and baby gets by breastmilk and/or give to your baby.

If you are quite healthy, take it daily to keep your stores up, in a
maintenance dose as below.

MAINTENANCE DOSES
FOR AN ADULT probably 3,000-5,000 mg per day (divided in 2 or 3 doses - so
that would be 1,000 - 1500 mg three times a day or so)

FOR A CHILD - Needs to be spread out thru day as goes from body in 4
hours or so. 1 kg is 2.2 pounds........... so divide the babies
pounds by 2.2 and that will give you kilos and then multiply X's
200-375 mg of Sodium Ascorbate powder

Dosage rate = between 200 - 375 mg per kg of body weight over waking
hours, actual dose depends on individual.

So if your child weighs 4 kilos, one gram vitamin C = 1,000 mgs (
one-quarter of a level tsp) should be split into several doses, and
given from morning to evening....

One good pinch equals 250 mgs, if you want to use the vague method.

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SOURCES
Have to be very careful now - much sodium ascorbate is from corn and
corn is genetically engineered and much comes from China now
so I don't recommend Bronson anymore

http://www.vitapurity.com/index_c.html

In UK I got from Health Plus http://www.healthplus.co.uk BUT NEED
to check if GMO corn-free
in Australia - Melrose was suggested to me - BUT NEED to check if GMO corn-free
http://www.naturalcity.com.au/product.aspx?id=2333

or google +sodium+ascorbate+australia+corn-free
Articles & info

http://www.orthomed.com/titrate.htm
TITRATING TO BOWEL TOLERANCE

The maximum relief of symptoms which can be expected with oral doses
of ascorbic acid is obtained at a point just short of the amount
which produces diarrhea. The amount and the timing of the doses are
usually sensed by the patient. The physician should not try to
regulate exactly the amount and timing of these doses because the
optimally effective dose will often change from dose to dose.
Patients are instructed on the general principles of determining
doses and given estimates of the reasonable starting amounts and
timing of these doses. I have named this process of the patient
determining the optimum dose, TITRATING TO BOWEL TOLERANCE. The
patient tries to TITRATE between that amount which begins to make him
feel better and that amount which almost but not quite causes diarrhea.
http://www.orthomed.com/klenner.htm
Journal of Applied Nutrition Vol. 23, No's 3 & 4, Winter 1971
Observations On the Dose and Administration of Ascorbic Acid When
Employed Beyond the Range Of A Vitamin In Human Pathology Frederick
R. Klenner, M.D., F.C.C.P.

********* "How Much Is Too Much? Dr. Robert Cathcart believes the
ideal intake for any individual is the highest level they can
tolerate without loose bowels. On the basis of his experience with
11,000 patients over 14 years this bowel tolerance level may be 10 to
15 grams in a healthy person, 30 to 60 grams in a person with a cold,
and over 199 grams per day in a person with a serious infectious
illness. During an infectious illness the best clinical results have
been achieved by maintaining high vitamin C levels in the blood
through 3 or more grams every four hours.

Fortunately, vitamin C is one of the least toxic substances known to
man. Four studies gave 10 grams of vitamin C to over 3000 patients
without a single reported incidence of toxicity. Other than the
bowels there has not been one single case of toxicity resulting from
taking vitamin C supplements, despite unfounded reports of potential
risk for kidney stones, raising blood uric acid levels, or 'rebound'
scurvy. It is unlikely that any vitamin has been tested to such an
extent for toxicity and it is safe to assume that supplemental levels
of at least 10 grams a day, or up to bowel tolerance, are completely safe. "

(again this may need to be sodium ascorbate form)

*********** http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/mega_1_1.html#HOLFORD

VITAMIN C:

HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH?

By Patrick Holford

Most Animals Produce The Equivalent Of 3 to 15 Grams of Vitamin C Every Day
Vitamin C isn't a vitamin at all. It isn't a necessary component of
diet, at least for all mammals with the exception of guinea pigs,
fruit eating bats, the red vented bulbul bird and primates - which
includes us. All other species make their own.

This they do by converting glucuronic acid derived from glucose into
ascorbic acid (C6H8O6). Three enzymes are required to make this
conversion. One of these enzymes, or part of the enzyme system, is
missing in primates. Irwin Stone proposed, in 1965, that a negative
mutation may have occurred in these species so as to lose the ability
to produce vitamin C. In primates this is thought to have occurred in
the region of 25 million years ago.

Mutations can and frequently do occur in nature. Only those that put
a species at advantage at the time tend to become dominant.
Unfortunately, reversing such mutations is highly unlikely to occur.
Unlike other vitamins, vitamin C is required in large amounts which
could only be supplied by a tropical diet high in fruit and other
vegetation. if sufficient vitamin C could be obtained from such a
diet the quantity of glucose normally used to synthesize vitamin C
could be channeled towards energy production. This could conceivably
have been an advantage for primates or other species.

This advantage may have come at a price. Dr. Jungblut, an early
pioneer of vitamin C therapy in the 1930's, discovered that only us
primates and guinea pigs were susceptible to scurvy as well as
anaphylactic shock, pulmonary tuberculosis, diptheritic intoxication,
a poliomyelitis-like viral infection and a viral form of leukemia.
None of the vitamin C synthesizing laboratory animals had
susceptibility to these diseases. This is perhaps one of the first
observations that led to the idea that susceptibility to viral
infections could be a consequence of vitamin C deficiency. Could
humanity's history of disease - endemic infections, plagues and more
recently cancer and heart disease - be the result of our inability to
produce vitamin C and our inability to obtain it from the food we eat?

Vitamin C produced per day by different animal species
(equivalent for 70 Kg Man)

Goat 2,280 - 13,300 mg
Rat 2,737 - 13,902 mg
Rabbit 1,547 - 15,820 mg
Cow 1,099 - 1,281 mg
Mouse 2,352 - 19,250 mg
Sheep 1,736 mg
Cat 336 - 2,800 mg
More than 50% of People Require Over 2,500 mg to Reach Maximum Absorption
Vitamin C is One of the Least Toxic Substances Known to Man

The fact that almost all species continue to make vitamin C suggests
that the amount of vitamin C generally available from diet is not
enough for optimum nutrition except in exceptional circumstances such
as a tropical environment. The chart above shows the average amount
produced by each animal, adjusted to an equivalent body weight for
Man. Under normal circumstances the daily amount produced, adjusted
for comparison to a 70 kg man, is somewhere between 3,000 mg and
15,000 mg, with an average of 5,400 mg.

Species of monkeys, such as the squirrel monkey, require an
equivalent of 2,000 mg a day to maintain health and up to 1000 mg a
day to maintain blood levels found in the wild. Animals produce
variable amounts depending on their circumstances. Under conditions
of stress or infection synthesis can easily quadruple. Some primates
appear to require up to 2,800 mg a day equivalent to survive the
long-term stresses of captivity, while guinea pigs require 3,000 mg
per day to recover from anesthesia.

What about us? While a mere 60 mg a day can prevent scurvy, the
deficiency disease first identified by Dr. James Lind in 1753, it
would be illogical to assume that this is the optimal dose. A survey
of doctors in the US found that those who were healthiest consumed at
least 250 mg of vitamin C per day. A recent survey has shown that a
person's vitamin status is a good predictor of their mortality risk.
High blood vitamin C levels indicate a low risk for cardiovascular
disease and certain types of cancer and other immune based diseases.
Optimal intakes to reduce risk of such conditions would appear to be
at least 500 mg per day. Expensive Urine? But aren't you simply
making expensive urine when you take large amounts of supplements?
Dr. Michael Colgan investigated this often made rebuttal. He
investigated how much vitamin C we use by giving increasing daily
doses and measuring excretion. "Only a quarter of our subjects
reached their vitamin C maximum at 1,500 mg a day. More than half
required over 2,500 mg a day to reach a level where their bodies
could use no more. Four subjects did not reach their maximum at 5,000
mg." Increasing vitamin C intake from 50 mg to 500 mg tends to double
serum vitamin C levels. Increasing intake to 5,000 mg a day will
double serum levels again. Expensive urine? Vitamin C protects the
bowel, kidneys and bladder on the way out. As Dr. Michael Colgan
points out the average victim of bowel or bladder cancer spends
$26,000 for treatment - mostly to no avail.

While it is valid to infer from this brief history of evolution, a
comparison with other species, and average excretion rates that
optimal vitamin C levels are probably above 1,000 mg with plenty of
room for individual variation,what about 'hard evidence'? What levels
are required to ensure maximum function of enzymes and body systems
dependent on vitamin C? A quick review of some of vitamin C's
hundreds of biochemical roles will help us here. Vitamin C is
required for the synthesis of collagen. Our intercellular glue that
keeps skin, lungs, arteries, the digestive tract and all organs
intact. It is a potent anti-oxidant protecting against free radicals,
pollution, carcinogens, heavy metals, and other toxins. It is
strongly anti-viral and mildly anti-bacterial. Energy cannot be made
in any cell, brain or muscle without adequate vitamin C. The adrenal
glands have a high concentration of vitamin C which is essential for
stress hormone synthesis. Vitamin C is so central in so many chemical
reactions in the body that,without it, life is simply not possible.
Are Western Killer Diseases Symptoms of a Vitamin C Deficiency? The
immune system depends on having healthy immune cells and associate
molecules such as antibodies. Vitamin C is essential for both.
Antibody production increases on supplementing 1 gram of vitamin C.
It is also needed for interferon, complement, and prostaglandin
production, and is essential for the proper function of immune cells
such as lymphocytes and leukocytes. A recent study showed, in the
test tube, that vitamin C can even inactivate the HIV virus.

Thanks to the work of Linus Pauling and coworkers we know that 10
grams of vitamin C doubles the life expectancy of cancer patients,
and, in some cases effects a complete cure. Its role is even more
pivotal in cardiovascular disease, which is now being postulated as
the long-term consequence of vitamin C deficiency. Just about every
marker of cardiovascular disease, arterial damage, high blood
cholesterol levels, low HDL levels, high levels of oxidized
cholesterol, thick blood are all improved by adequate vitamin C
intake at levels up to 10 grams a day. Vitamin C increases resistance
to stress, lessens allergic reactions, helps arthritic conditions,
slows down the aging process and improves energy production.
Beneficial effects of vitamin C in human trials tend to increase with
the amount given up to, and above, 10 grams per day. On the basis of
research into vitamin C's effect on disease states it would appear
that an intake of somewhere between 1 and 10 grams may be optimal
simply for maintaining optimal function of the immune, endocrine and
cardiovascular system. How Much Is Too Much? Dr. Robert Cathcart
believes the ideal intake for any individual is the highest level
they can tolerate without loose bowels. On the basis of his
experience with 11,000 patients over 14 years this bowel tolerance
level may be 10 to 15 grams in a healthy person, 30 to 60 grams in a
person with a cold, and over 199 grams per day in a person with a
serious infectious illness. During an infectious illness the best
clinical results have been achieved by maintaining high vitamin C
levels in the blood through 3 or more grams every four hours.

Fortunately, vitamin C is one of the least toxic substances known to
man. Four studies gave 10 grams of vitamin C to over 3000 patients
without a single reported incidence of toxicity. Other than the
bowels there has not been one single case of toxicity resulting from
taking vitamin C supplements, despite unfounded reports of potential
risk for kidney stones, raising blood uric acid levels, or 'rebound'
scurvy. It is unlikely that any vitamin has been tested to such an
extent for toxicity and it is safe to assume that supplemental levels
of at least 10 grams a day, or up to bowel tolerance, are completely
safe. WHAT IS OPTIMUM Whichever way you look at it the figures come
out in the same ballpark. The optimum intake is likely to be in the
region of 1,000 mg (1 gram) to 10,000 mg (10 grams) per day, If you
are in the grips of cardiovascular disease, an infectious or immune
system disease, or cancer the ideal level may be much higher. If you
drink excessive amounts of alcohol, live in a polluted city, have a
stressful lifestyle, take drugs including aspirin, or smoke, your
optimal intake will again be raised. An intake of 200 to 300 mg of
vitamin C per day is required to raise the average smoker's vitamin C
level to that of a non-smoker. An intake of around 50 mg per
cigarette probably affords maximum protection.

Albert Szent Gyorgi, who isolated vitamin C in 1928, recommends 1
gram daily. Dr. Michael Colgan takes 5 grams daily. Dr. Linus Pauling
takes 10 to 18 grams daily. I take 5 grams daily on top of a diet
rich in food sources of vitamin C. The choice is yours.

***********
3000 mg Vitamin C

The Vitamin C Foundation recommends that every man, woman and child
over the age of 3 consume at least 3 g (3000 mg) vitamin C daily in
order to enjoy optimum health.

More during pregnancy (6000 mg), and much more during periods of
disease (20,000 to 300,000 mg).

RDI Source/Population
60-95 mg U.S. Recommended Intake
200 mg LPI & Levin/NIH Recommendation
3000 mg Foundation's daily recommendation
6000-12000 mg Levy's daily recommendation
6000-18000 mg Pauling's daily recommendation
6000-9000 mg Pregnancy
6000-18000 mg Heart Disease
14000-30000 mg Cancer
20000-300000 mg Cathcart/Levy Cure for Infectious Diseases

Comment

Our recommendation is more than 30 times what the United States
Government's National Academy of Sciences recommends (75-90 mg), and
15 times more than what the Linus Pauling Institute and the Levin
group at the National Institutes of Health recommend (200 mg).

Linus Pauling recommended 2 to 6 times the Foundation's vitamin C RDA
(6000 to 18,000 mg vitamin C). Pauling wrote that his recommendation
was based on the large amounts of vitamin C animals make for
themselves, and on the amount humans must ingest orally to achieve
similar levels.

Vitamin C author/expert Thomas E. Levy, MD, JD, recommends from 2 to
4 times our recommendation (6,000 to 12,000 mg daily)

Our recommendations are partly based on the work of Dr. Robert
Cathcart, III. Cathcart determined that the ability to tolerate oral
intakes of the vitamin vary between 4 and 16 g daily during ordinary
poor health. Cathcart's clinical experience demonstrates that
virtually every human being will tolerate 4 g vitamin C daily.

The Foundation recommends 1 g vitamin C for children based on their
age, up to the age of 3. One gram for one-year-olds, two grams for
two-year-olds, etc.

Our recommended daily allowance may not prevent or resolve diseases
related to lack of vitamin C. For example, we believe that heart
disease requires from 6000 to 18,000 mg vitamin C, and that cancer
may require 14,000 to 30,000 mg daily.

We do realize that if our recommendation were adopted by most people
in the world, there would be a grave shortage of the vitamin.
(Perhaps this is one reason that Government recommendations are so tiny?)

Owen R. Fonorow
http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/faq.html