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FEVER

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 9:00 am
by Jeff Tikari
I read many posts on fever and even the Reps advocate fever
remedies.
What is Fever?
Is it not the VFs way of fighting infection by raising the body's temp?
If this is so, why do we advocate rems. to bring down the fever -
unless, of course, it goes too high? Does not fever indicate that the
system is fighting the infection tooth & nail? Even in a cure for cancer the
blood's temp. is raised to kill the infection. Then why do we run to the
medicine chest to bring down even the mildest of fevers?
Will someone pls tell me?
Jeff
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Re: FEVER

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 3:32 pm
by Sheri Nakken
At 10:00 AM 5/17/2011, you wrote:
Because people are programmed that fever is bad and must take it down. Fever is not something current moms do well with.
So I teach that that is not a good practice to use drugs to take it down which also deplete glutathione from the liver which is necessary for detox in illness as well as detox from meds.

I share with them remedies that may match the fever AND OTHER symptoms that are going along with it - treating the whole person - not just the fever. But often just need to allow it
Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
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Re: FEVER

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 7:10 pm
by Elham Mohajer
you will come to know when you get fever.

No offence meant

best regards
Elham

Re: FEVER

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:53 am
by Jeff Tikari gmail
Some mails on 'fever' are becoming just brawls and finger pointing.
Isn't 'fever ' body's way of figting a virus/pathogen?
One of the ways to fight cancer is (very basically) to heat the blood
and re-circulate it to the body ? Thereby killing the pathogens with heat.
Is not our immune sys doing just this? And when our immune sys is winning
the fever goes away?
Even a bad abcess will bring on a fever and as it heals the fever will go away,
yes?
Jeff

Re: FEVER

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:07 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
Absolutely.

But we need to know the cause of the fever, as many have repeated. And we need to watch it carefully as sometimes it becomes too high; that is when it can create problems.

Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind". www.naturamedica.webs.com

Re: FEVER

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:27 am
by Sheri Nakken
just a question Joe - what is too high?
Sheri

At 07:07 PM 2/19/2013, you wrote:

Re: FEVER

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:28 am
by Sheri Nakken
and what would make it get too high?
Sheri

Re: FEVER

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:01 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
Too high is when the body/patient shows signs it cannot tolerate that level of temperature, so we are again and as usual back to individualisation.
What makes it too high, or OTOH tolerable, are the state of the patient, e.g hydration and underlying pathologies, again individualisation.

Let me tell you my daughter's story when she was 5 years old:
I was working in general medicine for the NHS. We had a local bad epidemic of Mycoplasma Pneumonia, people were hospitalised right and left, after having abundantly coughed on me and my colleagues....I brought the bug home as could be expected although I did not get sick, just "uncomfortable". No problem for my wife and son (individual again) but my daughter started being "subfebrile" (37.6 going up and down) and not really her usual self, cranky and tired, still going to kindergarten though.
For a few weeks I did everything, used everything, no need to make a list, the best indicated remedies did not change anything, herbs, vitamins, you name, I did it, no change.
Until I realised why: her immune system, and mine, always very healthy was "busy" defending her body and preventing the spread of the infection; although the remedies provided some help it could not "defeat the invader" that was a very virulent one.
"Pat" as we say in chess. And I could not stimulate her system more, I tried and it did not work, and fortunately she did not move into a cytokine storm....
I decided that I needed to weaken the aggressor so that her immune system would be able to finish the job. We knew the Mycoplasma was sensitive to Erythromycin; so I went on a "blitzkrieg": I gave her in one go one single daily dose of the antibiotic (3 x the normal dose usually given) and nothing else. Within half an hour, she fell deeply asleep, breathing normally but the perfect textbook picture of Belladonna less the agitation: she was glowing red and irradiating heat....but was calm and restful....so I did not give her Belladonna as I wanted the Mycoplasma cooked....needless to say, neither my wife nor I slept that night, we were constantly monitoring her and making her drink every time she woke up; and no, I did not measure the temperature, I knew that it was high but psychologically we would have freaked out and probably panicked if we knew (I am not Superman....). In the morning, her fever was gone, she was exhausted but feeling well, stayed at home another day and them went back to her usual mischief.

Does that answer your questions?

Not for the faint hearted, definitely...you need "cojones" to dare doing that, but hey, I am nuts, you know that :-)

Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind". www.naturamedica.webs.com

Re: FEVER

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:40 am
by Jeff Tikari gmail
Sorry for jumping in, Sheri.
Different constitutions can handle fever differently, some better than others.
A young immature system has a very limited repertory of diseases and so can't produce appropriate
leucocytes to fight the infection and takes recourse to high fevers to counter the invading pathogens.
When the onslaught of pathogens is intense, the system heats the blood more and more to fight off
the pathogens. And so young children get higher fevers which they can handle quite well. However, when the onslaught is uncontainable the fever goes still higher . The immune system is now desperate and on its knees. It has no other weapon other than high temperatures and in its desperation will produce temperatures which will not only kill the pathogens, but may do the same for the patient. What this temperature may be that will cause damage will depend on the invaded constitution and will vary.
Our job is to gently sponge the body and bring the temperature just a few degrees down to lower it from a dangerous situation - not elimenate it, for that will help the pathogen to multiply. Similarly fever reducing remedies will lower the temperature and help the infection to multiply but at the same time increase the burden of a despertate immune system.
Jeff

Re: FEVER

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:08 pm
by Sheri Nakken
I disagree totally
yes we have to individualize and look at all the symptoms and treat accordingly, fever being just one of the symptoms. But to treat a fever just because it is 104 and Irene thinks that causes brain damage and death, is ludicrous. (and then later she added prolonged fever to her stipulations). We don't sponge the body, we don't give fever-reducing remedies - those would be anti- treatmetn which would be allopathy.

We have so many problems with allopaths and many so-called homeopaths aren't much different. Think they can analyze blood, think they can fight the body to lower the fever, make it up as they go. That is not homeopathy

Sheri

At 08:40 PM 2/19/2013, you wrote: