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Picture quiz - What do these skin problems have in common?
18 May 11
Each of the dermatological presentations pictured has something in common. What is it?
1.

2.

3.


4.
5.

6.
Answer
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They are all examples of herpes simplex virus (HSV) infection.
HSV infection mainly affects the skin and mucous membranes of the mouth and lips (mainly HSV type 1)
and genitals (mainly type 2), but may occur on other sites. Primary HSV can be unnoticed or cause
limited to extensive mucosal (picture 1) and/or cutaneous blistering (picture 2) and systemic upset
- rarely including meningitis or encephalitis. It is followed by latency, as the virus hides in
sensory ganglia - usually trigeminal in type 1, sacral in type 2. Primary infection in late
pregnancy can cause congenital HSV infection.
Some people have localised asymptomatic or clinical recurrences in roughly the same site, often
provoked by an upper respiratory tract infection, stress, sun exposure, fatigue or menstruation.
Characteristically, HSV presents with stomatitis and/or crops of clear umbilicated vesicles and
oedema. The blisters become purulent then crust over, clearing within three weeks and rarely leaving
scars. HSV is the most common cause of recurrent erythema multiforme (picture 3). HSV in patients
with atopic eczema may erupt as extensive monomorphic vesicles, or eczema herpeticum (picture 4).
Persistent blistering and ulceration (picture 5) can arise in immunocompromised individuals.
Secondary infection may occur. Blisters can be especially painful if they affect the genitals
(picture 6).
Oral aciclovir is suppressive and may be prescribed for intermittent short courses or
prophylactically. Dose varies from 200-800mg five times daily, depending on the severity of the
infection, and should be started promptly once symptoms arise.
============

Can I use this opportunity to also invite colleagues to visit Dr Shahrdar's work on both Minutus and
his mater work - Repertorium Virosum - which helps us understand about the true meaning of miasms
and in reality is a development of Hahnemann's work - it is as if Hahnemann was able to use all the
modern medical science information.

http://www.minutus.org/library/articles.asp

http://www.repertoriumvirosum.com/about.htm

Best Regards
Soroush

Dear Ellen and Minutus colleagues
Sorry that the photos did not come through on Minutus - hence the link. If you register with PULSE which is a Doctors' website, you can get such information from time to time.
The beauty of Dr Shahrdar's work is that it teaches one to learn to take into account common symptoms associated with 'named' diseases. Some homeopaths totally ignore these because in a similar way that allopaths do not know what to do with 'patient-speak' and 'sensation as if' symptoms (which are like gold dust to homeopaths), we did not know what to do with them until we got RV.
With Ardavan's RV, you are able to identify the possible micro organism(s) which may have caused these symptoms and similar to Hahnemann's work on Syphilis and Sycosis come up with a few specific remedies. Cross-referencing these with the homeopathic range of remedies that cover the patient's symptom, you then find that one or two remedies cover both aspects. This is where the Similimum for the patient can be found.
I think it is best for Dr Shahrdar or Dr Moradi who are experts at using RV to answer your specific questions.
Best wishes

Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ellen Madono
Sent: 25 May 2011 00:29
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] What do these skin conditions have in common?

Dear Soroush,

I have a questions about HSV and Dr. Shahrdar's work. I have a px who came to me for genital herpes. Sulphur confirmed by HFA (homeopathic Facial analysis) and chosen by ordinary classical repping is decreasing the outbreaks and also he is now getting outbreaks on his fingers that he says look like what he get on his genitals. So I am guessing that Sulphur is working. I was also led by keynotes.
Let's say these methods did not work. Eventually he is unable to get rid of this supposably incurable condition. I have been working with him for 5 months.
The bacterial infection is confirmed by lab tests. So I go to Dr. Shahrdar's program (Repertorium Virosum - RV). There I find HSV I and HSV II. How do I differentiate between them? Can I choose one of the HSV just based on the lab tests?
This may be a very poor example of what I am trying to ask, so please think of the answer at a slightly abstracted level. I am not asking what I should do for this particular case. I am asking what is done in general.
Let's look at my rubric choices. He has very few symptoms: Restless legs when sleeping, painless, itchless eruptions on the penis, sudden indigestion, high body temperature, frequent eruptions of his skin, very theoretically driven, intolerance for inept subordinates, lack of concern for how his clothes look, gegarious, excess eating, drinking and smoking. No one could miss Sulphur from that list. But let's say the list were less obvious but the same kind of non-pathological symptoms. Would I rep it? If I had a similar list of symptoms, I doubt that I would find them among the typically pathology symptoms of the RV. Could the RV still be useful?
Best,

Ellen Madono
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Picture quiz - What do these skin problems have in common?
18 May 11
Each of the dermatological presentations pictured has something in common. What is it?

1.

2.

3.


3f>

4.

5.

6.
Answer
-
They are all examples of herpes simplex virus (HSV) infection.
HSV infection mainly affects the skin and mucous membranes of the mouth and lips (mainly HSV type 1)
and genitals (mainly type 2), but may occur on other sites. Primary HSV can be unnoticed or cause
limited to extensive mucosal (picture 1) and/or cutaneous blistering (picture 2) and systemic upset
- rarely including meningitis or encephalitis. It is followed by latency, as the virus hides in
sensory ganglia - usually trigeminal in type 1, sacral in type 2. Primary infection in late
pregnancy can cause congenital HSV infection.
Some people have localised asymptomatic or clinical recurrences in roughly the same site, often
provoked by an upper respiratory tract infection, stress, sun exposure, fatigue or menstruation.
Characteristically, HSV presents with stomatitis and/or crops of clear umbilicated vesicles and
oedema. The blisters become purulent then crust over, clearing within three weeks and rarely leaving
scars. HSV is the most common cause of recurrent erythema multiforme (picture 3). HSV in patients
with atopic eczema may erupt as extensive monomorphic vesicles, or eczema herpeticum (picture 4).
Persistent blistering and ulceration (picture 5) can arise in immunocompromised individuals.
Secondary infection may occur. Blisters can be especially painful if they affect the genitals
(picture 6).
Oral aciclovir is suppressive and may be prescribed for intermittent short courses or
prophylactically. Dose varies from 200-800mg five times daily, depending on the severity of the
infection, and should be started promptly once symptoms arise.
============

Can I use this opportunity to also invite colleagues to visit Dr Shahrdar's work on both Minutus and
his mater work - Repertorium Virosum - which helps us understand about the true meaning of miasms
and in reality is a development of Hahnemann's work - it is as if Hahnemann was able to use all the
modern medical science information.

http://www.minutus.org/library/articles.asp

http://www.repertoriumvirosum.com/about.htm

Best Regards
Soroush
--
English: tokyohomeopathy.com

Japanese: tokyohomeopathy.jp

Dear Ellen,
Symptoms of both HSV1 and HSV2 are very miliar but HSV2 is more malignant than HSV1. Usually but not always eruptions of HSV are itching and painful
If you see RV and select the following rubrics:
Male - Eruptions
Mind - Restlessness
Skin - Eruptions
Extremities - Eruptions, hands

The top Viral state is CXA, CXB and Echo then HSV1 and HSV2
I selected following rubrics:
MALE GENITALIA/SEX - ERUPTIONS - Penis
EXTREMITIES - ERUPTIONS - Fingers
SKIN - ERUPTIONS - itching - without
SKIN - ERUPTIONS - painless
EXTREMITIES - RESTLESSNESS - Legs - night
PERSONAL CHAPTER - VIRAL MIASMS - CXA, CXB, ECH (Coxsackie viruses & Echoviruses)

The top 3 Remedies are Caust, Ars, Rhus-t, and Sulph is the 9th one!
Rgds,
Nader

From: Ellen Madono
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 3:59 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] What do these skin conditions have in common?

Dear Soroush,

I have a questions about HSV and Dr. Shahrdar's work. I have a px who came to me for genital herpes. Sulphur confirmed by HFA (homeopathic Facial analysis) and chosen by ordinary classical repping is decreasing the outbreaks and also he is now getting outbreaks on his fingers that he says look like what he get on his genitals. So I am guessing that Sulphur is working. I was also led by keynotes.

Let's say these methods did not work. Eventually he is unable to get rid of this supposably incurable condition. I have been working with him for 5 months.

The bacterial infection is confirmed by lab tests. So I go to Dr. Shahrdar's program (Repertorium Virosum - RV). There I find HSV I and HSV II. How do I differentiate between them? Can I choose one of the HSV just based on the lab tests?
This may be a very poor example of what I am trying to ask, so please think of the answer at a slightly abstracted level. I am not asking what I should do for this particular case. I am asking what is done in general.

Let's look at my rubric choices. He has very few symptoms: Restless legs when sleeping, painless, itchless eruptions on the penis, sudden indigestion, high body temperature, frequent eruptions of his skin, very theoretically driven, intolerance for inept subordinates, lack of concern for how his clothes look, gegarious, excess eating, drinking and smoking. No one could miss Sulphur from that list. But let's say the list were less obvious but the same kind of non-pathological symptoms. Would I rep it? If I had a similar list of symptoms, I doubt that I would find them among the typically pathology symptoms of the RV. Could the RV still be useful?
Best,
Ellen Madono
--
English: tokyohomeopathy.com
Japanese: tokyohomeopathy.jp

Dear Dr. Moradi,

Just to inform other readers, Dr. Ardavan Shahrdar's Repertorium Virosum (RV) is a software tool using modern medical data used for two purposes:
1.) to identify the infectious disease symptoms and to associate them with specific infectious diseases (a much larger number of miasm than the traditional 4, but maintaining the classical definition of a miasm) as well as
2.) to associate symptoms with a hierarchy of specific remedies.

Dr. Moradi, I am trying to learn how to use the RV, so I very much appreciate your reply. I am attempting to re-do your analysis using the Repertorium Virosum. I am going to go over my understanding of your analysis and I have the following questions:

1.) I was unable to locate Skin-eruptions-painless Skin-eruptions-itchless in the RV. These are not pathological so I am surprised they are in the RV.

2.) What is the "personal chapter"? Do you mean the Paraclinical chapter? I suppose not because I was unable to find "Viral Miasm".

I think you did the two forms of analysis provided by the RV: Remedy and Miasm analysis.
You come up with non-herpes miasms. They rated above herpes (HSV) which were suggested by the Px's lab tests. You come to HSV1 and 2 by eliminating the other higher ranking miasms based on the typical symptoms of those higher ranking disease. Eliminate CXA (feet and hands not sexual organ should be affected), CXB (Pain of chest, throat, fever not present), and ECH (Echovirus should affect major organs. Is more serious.)
So by ellimination, I am left with HSV1 and HSV2 (Herpes 1 and 2). This is supported by lab findings of the HSV virus (1 or 2 unknown).

Since both HSV1 and 2 are sexually transmitted, it could be either. Except the symptoms are very mild (painless, itchless) so as you say, it must be HSV1. So, assuming that the miasm is HSV1, you came up with a list of remedies. As I said above, I could not find all the symptoms that you found in the RV.

I would like to reproduce your line up of remedies. So, I very much appreciate your reply. I am hoping to get better at using the RV.
Thank-you,
Ellen Madono

Dear Ellen,
The first group of rubrics is from RV but the second group is from Synthesis.
We have added PERSONAL CHAPTER to the synthesis based on RV and Materia Virosa, therefore you can not find it in RV2 and Synthesis. Of course without it you can match the result of RV2 and individual repertorization and check the shared remedies to find best similimum.
If you have any question pls do not hesitate to ask.
Kind Regards,
Nader
From: Ellen Madono
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:30 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] What do these skin conditions have in common?
Dear Dr. Moradi,
Just to inform other readers, Dr. Ardavan Shahrdar's Repertorium Virosum (RV) is a software tool using modern medical data used for two purposes:
1.) to identify the infectious disease symptoms and to associate them with specific infectious diseases (a much larger number of miasm than the traditional 4, but maintaining the classical definition of a miasm) as well as
2.) to associate symptoms with a hierarchy of specific remedies.
Dr. Moradi, I am trying to learn how to use the RV, so I very much appreciate your reply. I am attempting to re-do your analysis using the Repertorium Virosum. I am going to go over my understanding of your analysis and I have the following questions:
1.) I was unable to locate Skin-eruptions-painless Skin-eruptions-itchless in the RV. These are not pathological so I am surprised they are in the RV.

2.) What is the "personal chapter"? Do you mean the Paraclinical chapter? I suppose not because I was unable to find "Viral Miasm".
I think you did the two forms of analysis provided by the RV: Remedy and Miasm analysis.
You come up with non-herpes miasms. They rated above herpes (HSV) which were suggested by the Px's lab tests. You come to HSV1 and 2 by eliminating the other higher ranking miasms based on the typical symptoms of those higher ranking disease. Eliminate CXA (feet and hands not sexual organ should be affected), CXB (Pain of chest, throat, fever not present), and ECH (Echovirus should affect major organs. Is more serious.)
So by ellimination, I am left with HSV1 and HSV2 (Herpes 1 and 2). This is supported by lab findings of the HSV virus (1 or 2 unknown).
Since both HSV1 and 2 are sexually transmitted, it could be either. Except the symptoms are very mild (painless, itchless) so as you say, it must be HSV1. So, assuming that the miasm is HSV1, you came up with a list of remedies. As I said above, I could not find all the symptoms that you found in the RV.
I would like to reproduce your line up of remedies. So, I very much appreciate your reply. I am hoping to get better at using the RV.
Thank-you,
Ellen Madono
--
English: tokyohomeopathy.com
Japanese: tokyohomeopathy.jp

Thanks Dr. Moradi,

Do you mean that you have added special files to the Personal Chapter of Synthesis? Can I get those file?

Best,
Ellen

Ellen, thanks for your excellent questions about this. It’s been good to have this discussion on Minutus. For me, RV remains a tool with lots of potential although it’s very difficult to use practically because the rubrics are so limited. I hope more people will share their case-based process of searching in RV.
Rosemary
"Life does not consist mainly, or even largely, of facts and happenings. It
consists mainly of the storm of thoughts that is forever blowing through
one's head."
~Mark Twain

Dear Rosemary,

I think the RV is so physiological and mostly the rubrics are pathological. There are mind rubrics, but as you say it is very limited. But the assumption is that you are also using a rep like Radar or the Complete and you are comparing big repping results to RV repping. Since the data base for the RV rubrics is shared, I think it is more like the rubrics are collaboration of big repertory results. The RV is only used when there is a paucity (lack) of useful symptoms (you have only disease symptoms, px has suppressed symptoms with medications , patient can't tell you symptoms, rubrics are all over 50 so only polycrests appear etc.) Dr. Shahrdars course that will be starting in September will go over the situations where the RV is unnecessary because there are other more powerful or appropriate repping strategies as well as the situations when the RV is very useful.

As you see in the case that I presented, my repping results came up with Sulphur and he found other remedies by using the RV. So, my guess is, if my incurable STD does not dissappear in lab tests, then I try the RV remedy. The STD is very clear in this case, but interesting the correspondence between the STD and the RV miasmatic infectious disease are not necessarily the same.

I hope Dr. Moradi will tell me if I am understanding this correctly.

Best,
Ellen

Dear Rosemary,
RV is very easy to use if one knows its philosphy and pattern of natural diseases and its relationship to chronic patterns. Ellen is going to set a class on the web regarding how Dr Shahrdar's teaching and Repertorium virosum help us in finding best similimum in chronic diseases esp in those with "Paucity of Symptoms"
Rgds,
Nader

From: Rosemary C. Hyde, PhD
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 7:52 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Re: What do these skin conditions have in common?
Ellen, thanks for your excellent questions about this. It's been good to have this discussion on Minutus. For me, RV remains a tool with lots of potential although it's very difficult to use practically because the rubrics are so limited. I hope more people will share their case-based process of searching in RV.
Rosemary
"Life does not consist mainly, or even largely, of facts and happenings. It
consists mainly of the storm of thoughts that is forever blowing through
one's head."
~Mark Twain