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Baby who hates the car

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:07 am
by Dale Moss
A mom brought her 4 month-old daughter to me today. Baby is healthy, no illnesses, curious, cheerful, cooing away and blowing spit bubbles like crazy. Breast-fed, not vaccinated, not even diapered (this mom, like many her age, believes in training herself to pick up on her baby's cues that she needs to pee or poop). Easy, natural delivery.
First thing the mom says: "She absolutely hates the car -- she hates not being held and being confined in a car seat. She'll be okay the first five minutes in the car, then she loses it and starts up with blood-curdling screams until the end of the trip. She doesn't fall asleep in the car. I'll nurse her, but as soon as I put her back in her car seat, she's devastated."
Baby likes the fresh air when she's cranky and doesn't like being overheated. She has cold hands and feet. She's not yet turning over, but she's already cut a tooth. Teething doesn't seem to be a big deal.
When very young, she would start screaming when the sun went down, as if terrified. The mom gave her Aconite, which appeared to help. Now as soon as the sun goes down, she wants to go to bed -- doesn't want any lights, though it's dark, and no stimulation. She'll sleep from 6 PM to 7 AM, waking only to nurse. She'll scream if her mom tries to nurse her when she doesn't want to nurse.
She's very sensitive to noise, which can wake her; she won't fall asleep while people are talking around her. She cried a lot as a newborn, especially at night.
I'm concerned about this baby because her mom became pregnant shortly after leaving a house where she suffered chronic carbon monoxide poisoning. The mom was suicidal throughout her first trimester, probably from the depression that can go with CO poisoning. She was also on a bit of an emotional roller coaster with her partner. All that has passed, and she's a highly engaged mom who carries her child close to her.
No fear of downward motion, so I ruled out Borax. The crying in the car is probably because her mom is not holding or carrying her, rather than from the movement of the car itself. But I've never seen this before -- I always thought a trip in the car was a guaranteed ticket to dreamland for fussy little ones. Not this baby, however!
I've been thinking of Stramonium, but this baby loves her bath. Any other ideas?
Peace,
Dale

Re: Baby who hates the car

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:16 am
by Fran Sheffield
Pulsatilla may also be a possibility.

They can become fearful or anxious with nightfall, love to draw attention to themselves, sometimes shyly at first, but can become very stroppy if the carer isn't doing exactly what they want, when they want (plus all the other well known Puls symptoms).
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Kind regards,

Fran Sheffield

Re: Baby who hates the car

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:34 am
by eternalhealth
puls?

From: Dale Moss
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 10:07 AM
To: Minutus
Subject: [Minutus] Baby who hates the car
A mom brought her 4 month-old daughter to me today. Baby is healthy, no illnesses, curious, cheerful, cooing away and blowing spit bubbles like crazy. Breast-fed, not vaccinated, not even diapered (this mom, like many her age, believes in training herself to pick up on her baby's cues that she needs to pee or poop). Easy, natural delivery.
First thing the mom says: "She absolutely hates the car -- she hates not being held and being confined in a car seat. She'll be okay the first five minutes in the car, then she loses it and starts up with blood-curdling screams until the end of the trip. She doesn't fall asleep in the car. I'll nurse her, but as soon as I put her back in her car seat, she's devastated."
Baby likes the fresh air when she's cranky and doesn't like being overheated. She has cold hands and feet. She's not yet turning over, but she's already cut a tooth. Teething doesn't seem to be a big deal.
When very young, she would start screaming when the sun went down, as if terrified. The mom gave her Aconite, which appeared to help. Now as soon as the sun goes down, she wants to go to bed -- doesn't want any lights, though it's dark, and no stimulation. She'll sleep from 6 PM to 7 AM, waking only to nurse. She'll scream if her mom tries to nurse her when she doesn't want to nurse.
She's very sensitive to noise, which can wake her; she won't fall asleep while people are talking around her. She cried a lot as a newborn, especially at night.
I'm concerned about this baby because her mom became pregnant shortly after leaving a house where she suffered chronic carbon monoxide poisoning. The mom was suicidal throughout her first trimester, probably from the depression that can go with CO poisoning. She was also on a bit of an emotional roller coaster with her partner. All that has passed, and she's a highly engaged mom who carries her child close to her.
No fear of downward motion, so I ruled out Borax. The crying in the car is probably because her mom is not holding or carrying her, rather than from the movement of the car itself. But I've never seen this before -- I always thought a trip in the car was a guaranteed ticket to dreamland for fussy little ones. Not this baby, however!
I've been thinking of Stramonium, but this baby loves her bath. Any other ideas?
Peace,
Dale

Re: Baby who hates the car

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:36 am
by Dale Moss
Thanks for the suggestion, Fran. Pulsatilla did come up high on repertorization (as did Stramonium). One thing that struck me was her desire to "shut down" at night. She wants to go right to bed. Even though she loves her warm bath, she gets fussy after awhile and wants it over. Wouldn't Pulsatilla prolong the contact with the mom?
Peace,
Dale

Re: Baby who hates the car

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:39 am
by Rochelle Marsden
I wonder if this child is ruling the roost i.e. Lyco ?
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath with The Society of Homeopaths
EFT (Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

Re: Baby who hates the car

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:21 am
by Azadeh Razavi
is it a fear of seperation, or movement of car?or being tied up?
how is her reaction in highchair?
azadeh
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Re: Baby who hates the car

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:32 pm
by Dale Moss
Interesting idea, Rochelle, and Lyc. also came up high on repping. But in a healthy baby there are no physical sxs to confirm this remedy or any other. I'm gonna sit on this another day or so until I feel a strong intuitive "hit." Or get some confirmatories from the mom.
Peace,
Dale

Re: Baby who hates the car

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:35 pm
by Dale Moss
Azadeh, I think it is fear of separation, which would suggest Puls., although the baby was not timid around me and did not cry for mom when I took her -- at least not for a few minutes. Don't know how she is in a high chair because she's never in one: the mom almost always carries her in a sling, and the baby is not taking solid food yet.
Peace,
Dale
is it a fear of seperation, or movement of car?or being tied up?
how is her reaction in highchair?
azadeh
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Re: Baby who hates the car

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:57 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Any hints from the mother's case, or mother's emotional state prior to delivery, etc.?
How does the mother respond to and feel about the baby's behavior?

Re: Baby who hates the car

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:18 am
by Gail Allen
Just wondering if Carbon Monoxide has had a proving?

I'm just reading Clarke - he has Carboneum Oxide and suggests comparing it to

Carboneum Hydrogen. Both have better for open air and deep prolonged sleep.

Carbon Oxide also has icy cold hands.

Gail
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Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:57:01 -0600
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Baby who hates the car
Any hints from the mother's case, or mother's emotional state prior to delivery, etc.?
How does the mother respond to and feel about the baby's behavior?