Minutus

Hi,

Yesterday my friend woke up feeling terrible and had lost her voice, hardly able to stand on her feet. No obvious fever, yet her head felt heavy, her eyes hurt and watered a lot, she felt dizzy, her muscles felt sore, and her chest hurt as if inflamed.

She took a tsp of Bryonia 30 that morning, and later that day her eyes hurt less, yet felt droopy, her nose became stuffy with clear discharge and she was constantly sneezing - she especially started sneezing on entering a warm or stale area. She felt sleepy and exhausted, yet the pain in her chest was gone, and so was the cough. She wasn't thirsty yet was making herself drink water in large sips, she felt constantly hungry.

I felt Gelsemium was a better fit, so she took a dose that night. Now this morning, she reports that her head is not as heavy, she is less drowsy and her eyes aren't burning and sore like yesterday. They still hurt a little and water though. Her nose and sinuses are still painful to the touch and the skin around her nostrils is red. She is tending to breathe through the mouth rather than through the nose. Discharge is clear.

What is worrying her is her throat and chest as the coughing is back and it has moved down to her trachea. Her voice was gone again in the morning and she had to make many attempts to clear her throat. When she breathes in, it irritates her lungs and she coughs as she breathes out. The discharge is clear and not offensive, yet her lungs feel itchy.

Her face is still burning, yet this is more of an internal heat as when she touches it, it feels cold. Chills are travelling up and down her spine, which weren't so typical yesterday after the Bry dose.

Of main concern is that she had three pneumonias as a child and she is very concerned about her lungs as the X-rays they took some years ago revealed patches of necrotic tissue in her lungs, and I am not experienced enough at all to advise her properly.

Please can anyone help me choose the best remedy for her?

Many thanks in advance

Michelle

Why did you stop the Bryonia? Never leave a remedy that has improved things until it is clear that it's not working any longer.
I would try Bryonia again.
Liz

Hi Liz,

We weren't convinced it was the right remedy as it seemed to only partially help. Or perhaps we were expecting too much from one dose?

Many thanks!
Michelle

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Liz Brynin" wrote:

Michelle,
I have had that happen where a rx did only part of the acute case. For me, personally, gels is the one that usually
works for all the sx except the chest pain. I also had pneumonia several times and whooping cough as a child all
of which seemed to leave a weakness in the lungs. Every illness in me (fortunately very rare) goes to the lungs with
burning pain and dry coughing for 6-8 weeks. Horrible!
I would try the Bry again and see if that doesn't get those sx again. You may have to go back and forth between the
2.
tanya

forgot to ask--what potency did you give?
tanya

Many thanks Tanya.

We used 30c for both remedies, in Medicinal Solution.

Michelle

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "tamarque@..." wrote:

If you had to characterize her case, would you say it was more on the fact level (focusing on physical details, or
mental level (how it affects her thinking for example), or emotional (how she feels, weepy, angry, impatient, etc), or
on some other level?
tanya

Lol, tricky one. I would go for the physical details.

How would you work that into the rep?

Many thanks Tanya!

Michelle

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "tamarque@..." wrote:

the way I see it: bry was alright, and might have been repeated first. Herings law observing..

after gels. the problem becomes deeper again..

Well, one thing to ask is how she is feeling on those different levels and also
ask what her normative state is. You can rep the change; ie, irritable or morose,
or weepy.
You can also try to assess what the state was prior to 'getting sick.' For example,
there may have been a loss of some sort, or some money worry, or be