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Poisoned cells make Viruses - The Nature of Viruses

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:56 am
by Sheri Nakken
http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/poisonvirus
Poisoned cells make Viruses
The Nature of Viruses
"I had long presumed the evidence for these illnesses being due solely to viral infection must be overwhelming - but I have found to my surprise that scientists have long known that the guaranteed way to make cells produce viruses in the laboratory, including flu and measles virus, is not primarily by getting them infected, but by exposing them to stress and toxins! "

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Dr David Gordon, the Chair of the Clinical Drug Trials Committee at Finders University in Australia, testified, at the 2007 Parenzee trial in Australia, that there is no need to ?purify a virus in order to identify it'. He repeated emphatically: ?No need to purify' then rhetorically questioned: ?Has any virus ever been purified?' He explained: ?The issues are exactly the same with any virus.' He doubted if any virus was ever isolated from sick cells. It seemed that a cellular illness was all the proof he needed to conclude that unseen viruses were present - no matter how artificial the laboratory circumstances or what chemicals were added.
So - viruses may not be the primary causes of illnesses - they might instead be caused by a cell being poisoned. Why do our cells make them? Could they be possibly a protective reaction ?"
Key Concepts
* How to find a Virus for a Vaccine
* How they find the measles virus
* Why our cells make retroviruses
* Why Poisoned Cells make Viruses
* What are Viruses and Bacteria?
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Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
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Re: Poisoned cells make Viruses - The Nature of Viruses

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:27 pm
by Shannon Nelson
? The way to make *anything* sick is not "primarily" through infection, but rather through (stress and toxins, which lead to) increased susceptibility. That's not because infection plays no role, but instead is because exposure does not *lead* to infection unless the defenses are down. (Or unless the exposure is to a pathogen for which the system doesn't have a defense.)

You wrote (or was it part of the quote?):
As previously agreed, of course they are not "the primary causes of illness"--because the vast majority of the time, the defenses are quite adequate.

"caused by a cell being poisoned"? Of course; the cell is "poisoned" when the virus injects its DNA.

"Why do our cells make them?" If and only if the viral DNA has been inserted.
I am slightly familiar with Enderlein's work, and the varous forms "morphing", between harmless and harmful, changing form, etc. I'm unaware whether viruses are included in this or not, but would be interested to know whether Enderlein himself did include them--anyone know?

"Could they be possibly a protective reaction?" This is a really interesting question. Sheri, can you explain it? For e.g., what might the viruses be protecting, and what might they be protecting it against? I'm just not sure where to go with that...

Shannon

Re: Poisoned cells make Viruses - The Nature of Viruses

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:28 pm
by Liz Brynin
Hi Sheri
I had already looked through all these articles -and I have no problem with anything they say. It's the same story with any illness - if you are susceptible, the bacteria/ viruses - whatever, will multiply because they have IDEAL CONDITIONS for doing so. Then when you look under a microscope, you find loads of these viruses/bacteria and you say: "Voila! That's what is making him ill" OK?
Fine. No problem.
Then, please explain to me how I got/caught/ picked up/attracted Hep. A in the UK? It MUST have been from my children - and I totally accept the possibility that they were exposed to some kind of toxin together while on holiday in Peru with their dad - but how did they pass it to me, four weeks later, in the UK?
Liz