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Disturbing news re HIV drugs
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:30 am
by Soroush Ebrahimi
This is of interest to anyone dealing with HIV+ patients taking ARV's.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 032233.ece
Re: Disturbing news re HIV drugs
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:10 am
by healthinfo6
Clearly what's disturbing is NOT starting ARV's early on in HIV infections, allowing T cells to drop while HIV viral load increases leads to AIDS dementia.
Susan
Re: Disturbing news re HIV drugs
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:33 pm
by Tanya Marquette
There are people using homeopathy effectively with AIDs. And nutrition has been a close adjunct.
The drugs are a killer. The body may be living, but not in good shape.
I was friendly with a woman who was living with AIDS/HIV gotten from her husband who did die.
Her life was a roller coaster: taking drugs to build her T-cell count; withdrawing from the drugs as
her body began to show destruction from the drugs. She put herself on this regimen despite her
doctor's admonitions. However, she withdrew from most of the world, focusing only on her
children.. The shame and fear of rejection, coupled on the level of racism she had to deal with,
was just too much for her. Haven't seen her in about 4-5 yrs now so don't know how she is doing.
tanya
Re: Disturbing news re HIV drugs
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:13 pm
by healthinfo6
I guess you forgot pre-1995 when AIDS patients were dying in huge numbers. That stopped since the HIV drug cocktail. Everyone I know is doing very well on drugs, one straight wpman over 10 years on same drugs, no drug resistance, works out, eats well, etc. She is in excellent shape, physically, blood chemistry, etc. One time she went on drug holiday, whidh is no longer recommended, T cells dropped very fast.
Let us know the homeopathic remedies that increase T cell count in a few weeks to prevent death from kaposi's, pneumonia, etc.
Susan
Re: Disturbing news re HIV drugs
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:45 pm
by Joy Lucas
Starting with the nosodes and looking as well specifically at the antimiasmatic rx for the herpes range of diseases and pneumonia there must be hundreds of rx that will treat successfully but I don't think homeopaths are getting to treat enough cases of so called HIV/AIDS but you only have to look at the large number of rx that get listed as having an affinity for auto-immune diseases (again, so called) to see how many there would be and given that the simillimum is chosen on all levels then rx reaction will be quick.
Joy
http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/
Re: Disturbing news re HIV drugs
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:48 pm
by Tanya Marquette
susan,
there are, and were, many people who took control of their lives and used nutrition and herbs
to build health. many homeopaths began to treat hiv/aids with success. unfortunately, many
practitioners do not write up their cases. by the mid-90's there were many people who were
living with this condition for over 14 yrs who were not using drugs.
as with many conditions, it often takes some time for people to wrap their minds around what is
happening and make significant changes in their lives to build health. the nature of this health
condition was confusing and it took quite some time for people to understand it. also, some
of the organizing groups wrapped themselves in the drug paradigm and created the mantra
that research and allopathic drugs were the only solution.
and there are no remedies for homeopathy in the same way there are no remedies for a cold,
or asthma, or colitis, etc. the case needs to be taken and individualized--that is homeopathy!
tanya
Re: Disturbing news re HIV drugs
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:56 pm
by Tanya Marquette
we need to look at africa as an example. there are several projects that are based on homeopathy,
herbs and diet. the south african battle raged for years with the drug companies trying to force
governments to buy and distribute drugs and to prevent alternative protocols to get funding or
even publicity.
of course, aids in africa looks totally different than aids in the usa. isn't that an interesting phenomenon
that no one explores.
and vaccines have been so implicated in the dissemination of the condition, but this also gets little
attention.
i am beginning to feel that this is a conditon where the immune system can be assaulted in different,
but profound ways, with a variety of symptomatology based on how the immune system is compromised.
by altering the 'infectious' agent, one can experiment with the human body on its different responses to
that assault. just my theory.
tanya
Re: Disturbing news re HIV drugs
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:28 pm
by JULIE GRIFFITHS
Tanya,
AIDS ( and TB) is common to maize-growing areas in Africa. Maize is well-known to be a very unnutritious plant as it pulls up very few minerals from the soil. Selenium deficiency is classic to AIDS.
'nother thing to add is although many STDs are still rife in the UK, it seems AIDS is not.... If STDs are rife that would speak of a population that doesn't wear condoms. If that's true at all, then why is AIDS which spreads more rapidly in an 'uncondomized' society, so underrepresented?
Julie
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we need to look at africa as an example. there are several projects that are based on homeopathy,
herbs and diet. the south african battle raged for years with the drug companies trying to force
governments to buy and distribute drugs and to prevent alternative protocols to get funding or
even publicity.
of course, aids in africa looks totally different than aids in the usa. isn't that an interesting phenomenon
that no one explores.
and vaccines have been so implicated in the dissemination of the condition, but this also gets little
attention.
i am beginning to feel that this is a conditon where the immune system can be assaulted in different,
but profound ways, with a variety of symptomatology based on how the immune system is compromised.
by altering the 'infectious' agent, one can experiment with the human body on its different responses to
that assault. just my theory.
tanya
Re: Disturbing news re HIV drugs
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:31 pm
by Tanya Marquette
very good points you share.
the information that i am dealing with is not popular. it relates to the genocidal nature of the
eugenics people who look to depopulate the world by any means available to them.
vaccines are a very easy way to infect people. the gay community was seen as a sacrificial
lamb in the usa in order to get african governmental leaders to allow it to be dumped on their
own populations. it account for the sudden appearance and rapid spread of the disease. and
it also accounts for the different varieties of the condition since what is in a vaccine can be
manipulated for effect, research, etc.
this is not far fetched and is not new to medical history. hitler not only did experiments on
people, but the usa taught them to do that. remember the tuskgeegee syphilis experiements
on african-americans. think of the experiment scandals on institutionalized youth in our not
too distant past. think of all the other human experiments done without knowledge or consent
on the public, like the M-kultra LSD experiements. the list goes on in the usa alone.
so if the UK was not willing to sacrifice any of its population en masse, you will not see this
condition develop. i am believing the sex connection can only work in a population that
is already affected on a large scale. there are many people who have been exposed by
don't get the disease state. those stats are not make public but would be very interesting.
like any disease state, not everyone is affected. and to remember, an epidemic is defined
as something affecting only 10% of the population. polio never made it to that level. the
flu certainly hasn't. so, not to digress, hiv/aids may exist in england to a small degree but
is not being promoted and the people are not spreading it.
that is my take on this sinister medical assault on the people of the world!
tanya
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Re: Disturbing news re HIV drugs
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:00 pm
by Liz Brynin
I think there are several reasons for this.
1) - exposure. Multiple contacts = higher risks. This is probably down to cultural differences - which may sound racist, but I have read/heard that in Africa men use prostitutes more often than here in Europe. Which is not to say that we are not promiscuous, but that we maybe visit prostitutes less. And our prostitutes are more likely to insist on the use of condoms.
2) - better nutrition - however poor our nutrition here in Europe, it is still better in some respects than in Africa, where poverty - true poverty - is common. And this would tie in with the maize connection.
3) - faster diagnosis and treatment here in the West. Which helps with the containment - here in the UK you have to say who your sexual partners have been, so they can be contacted and warned/tested. And most people with AIDS are wary about spreading it, since they can be prosecuted, unlike STDs which are considered to be easily treatable. I doubt very much that this is done in Africa.
Liz
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