Minutus

I haven’t got a clue what homeopathic “drainage” (a French word) specifically is, but it was used on me for a year in 1997-8 by a pediatric surgeon turned classical (in her terms) homeopath from Luxembourg. At the end of the year, I had a rash come out all over my hands and feet. It lasted about 3 weeks on my hands and left in the order in which it had begun. Same on my feet, except that one spot on my toe stayed kind of cracked (open I think) for about 6 months.
That was 10 years ago and the recurrent sinus infections I had had for years have never returned. In addition, the pre-cancerous cervix I never even mentioned to the practitioner (I was apparently nearing the point of having to have surgery, but I thought that did not interest her) stopped being pre-cancerous. I kept having the prescribed PAP smears but they have all been negative. They had been getting worse and worse for years before her treatment. I am sure from the “protocol” she used that she was practicing “drainage”. Teresa (Northern VA)
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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Booyse
What are you "draining?" Someone explain drainage to me. It is a term that has been bandied around a lot without any real explanation about the process.
Now hahnemann had a lot say about drainage and the negative effects of such methods. Check as an example aph 59:

No not drainage, but the simillimum. Or is that a dirty word

Joy

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There is a lot more to drainage............it has to start with organotherapy, correcting the function or the organs in order to allow the removal of all the toxins that will be "liberated" from the tissues.
Drainage will follow with optimisation of the function of the organs now normalised (of course they start eliminating immediately), then the detoxification process can happen, specifically directed to some substances or non specific.
The purpose is to "rebalance" the body in order to make it possible to tolerate the big shift that will happen with proper treatment; often with the Simillimum, a discharge of toxins, e.g Mercury that has been sitting in the tissues, happens, but the body cannot deal with it, leading to extreme aggravations.
I have written a 400 pages book about that (Organotherapy, Drainage and Detoxification) describing the different methods and systems available...........
 
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Thank you Dr. Roz! I am grateful that you think it is worthwhile too!
Liz
There is a lot more to drainage............it has to start with organotherapy, correcting the function or the organs in order to allow the removal of all the toxins that will be "liberated" from the tissues.
Drainage will follow with optimisation of the function of the organs now normalised (of course they start eliminating immediately), then the detoxification process can happen, specifically directed to some substances or non specific.
The purpose is to "rebalance" the body in order to make it possible to tolerate the big shift that will happen with proper treatment; often with the Simillimum, a discharge of toxins, e.g Mercury that has been sitting in the tissues, happens, but the body cannot deal with it, leading to extreme aggravations.
I have written a 400 pages book about that (Organotherapy, Drainage and Detoxification) describing the different methods and systems available...........
 
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com

Hello Doc Roz,
But what are the "toxins"? can this process be observed in some way? Because
hahnemann based the organon on observation.

Let's break it down. The organ is malfunctioning. Why? Because the vital
force which normally results in a healthy function of the organ is now
dysfunctional. According to homeopathic principles, the symptoms produced
are always the "best possible scenario" so as to survive. i.e. the least
harmful level possible. If vitality drops or the symptoms are not allowed to
express at that level, then the pathology will develop on a deeper level. As
example, better a skin rash than asthma. Apply cortisone and you may end up
with asthma. Hahnemann was clear on this. It's not that you are driving the
disease in deeper. The disease state is in the whole organism and manifests
at a point that is the best possible event. So if you remove symptoms by
"draining" or "detoxining" an organ, the disease state still remains and now
will manifest deeper.

OK, so you say you will give a constitutional as well. Well, firstly the
constitutional remedy has to fight against the "dissimilar state" induced by
the drainage remedy. (Read up on dissimilar interactions). But for me the
most important point is , how can you be sure of the constitutional remedy
being the correct one? If the patient is somewhat improved, who is to say
its not just the draining that has produced a shift. Remember as well that
an initial aggravation (dry dose) is a marker that the remedy is working,
followed by improvement. The art is to get the dose right so that there is a
minimal agg. and then improvement. Presumably from what you say there is no
agg. with draining.
If you are not careful with your dosing. Most homeopaths, and I am not
saying yourself or Liz, who practice a multidisciplinary approach will also
give more frequent doses of the "constitutional". they have to anyway as the
effects of the remedy are curtailed by the other dosings going on.

The rebalance can only happen with the simillimum, otherwise all you achieve
is a temporary push on the seesaw to try and gain equilibrium, but as soon
as you let go, watch out for the rebound.

By the way, are you saying detoxing will achieve chelation type effects to
remove mercury or other heavy metals. do you have studies to show this? Or
is it a theory which sounds plausible, but is yet unproven and simply
believed like an urban myth?

Finally I re-emphasize what I said earlier. While a herb may stimulate one
area, even giving a seemingly beneficial result, what about its effects
elsewhere?

regards,
Paul
 
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Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. wrote:

There is a lot more to drainage............it has to start with organotherapy, correcting the function or the organs in order to allow the removal of all the toxins that will be "liberated" from the tissues.
Drainage will follow with optimisation of the function of the organs now normalised (of course they start eliminating immediately), then the detoxification process can happen, specifically directed to some substances or non specific.
The purpose is to "rebalance" the body in order to make it possible to tolerate the big shift that will happen with proper treatment; often with the Simillimum, a discharge of toxins, e.g Mercury that has been sitting in the tissues, happens, but the body cannot deal with it, leading to extreme aggravations.
I have written a 400 pages book about that (Organotherapy, Drainage and Detoxification) describing the different methods and systems available...........
 
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com

Yeeeesss!!!
There is a lot more to drainage............it has to start with organotherapy, correcting the function or the organs in order to allow the removal of all the toxins that will be "liberated" from the tissues.
Drainage will follow with optimisation of the function of the organs now normalised (of course they start eliminating immediately), then the detoxification process can happen, specifically directed to some substances or non specific.
The purpose is to "rebalance" the body in order to make it possible to tolerate the big shift that will happen with proper treatment; often with the Simillimum, a discharge of toxins, e.g Mercury that has been sitting in the tissues, happens, but the body cannot deal with it, leading to extreme aggravations.
I have written a 400 pages book about that (Organotherapy, Drainage and Detoxification) describing the different methods and systems available...........
 
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com

Done, except of course unless something is posted that agrees with your point of view and have no need to validate it. ☺

Kerry

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