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pharmacy handout

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:28 pm
by LynnP
I have difficulty w/my local pharmacy giving pts the rems and salts in the wrong potencies.
This is a busy pharmacy w/a fast turnover of staff.
I spoke w/the manager who is receptive to a handout w/pertinent info to give to his staff to help them understand the rems and the importance of potency.
All my handouts are geared to the pt.
Does anyone have info geared to the pharmacist?
Thank you,
Lynn, NYC

Re: pharmacy handout

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:55 pm
by Rochelle
This is a difficult one and I feel your frustration!! I also came across this a few years ago at a local health food shop where the owner would recommend and send for 200C potencies and he wasn't a homeopath or ever taken a course in homeopathy!! He has now retired. I used to have to sort put the mess when patients came to me !!
Once I had a whole pharmacy attend my homeopathic course !! That was a one off!!
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

Re: pharmacy handout

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:00 pm
by Lynn Cremona
I would change pharmacies
Doesn't matter if it's a conventional or homeopathic pharmacy...their
job is to distribute meds properly

There is a local conventional pharmacy in NJ, the owner sent his
pharmacist to be trained how to dispense homeopathic remedies including LMs.
I don't know where they went for the training, but if you check with
HPUS, they may be able to suggest where.

http://www.hpus.com/
Homeopathic Pharmacopoeia Convention of the United States (HPCUS)
P.O. Box 2221 Southeastern, PA 19399-2221
e-mail info@hpus.com

Lynn
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Re: pharmacy handout

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:04 pm
by LynnP
Thanks for responding Lynn.
I do not want to deal w/this by sending my pts to a diff pharmacy. Everyone should be able to go to their neighborhood pharmacy and buy a rem with as much ease as buying any product.

That my pharmacy, which is a very good pharmacy, can dispense hom & salts incorrectly – repeatedly - means that this is going on in many pharmacies.

The last pt that was given the wrong potency, took the tissue salt before realizing that it was in the wrong potency. He called me very frightened. "Am I going to die!?"

This man, who wasn't feeling well, had to come back into Manhattan to get the correct potency. (The pharmacy exchanged the already opened bottle for the new one w/o charge and is giving him %20 off of his next order.)

It is the oldest pharmacy in the US and has had a respected reputation for a very long time.

I think it will be helpful to have an information sheet to give to the pharmacy and to be able to give it to my pts to give to the pharmacy that they use if different- so I started working on one.
Below is my beginning draft.

If anyone has the time and inclination please check for accuracy and clarity and if anything should be included that is not or something should be left out.

I don't think it should be more than one sheet of paper, front & back.

Also does anyone know of any great current links to add at the bottom for further info?
Thanks again,
Lynn P
Homeopathy and Tissue Salts for the Dispensing Pharmacist

Remedies act differently in different potencies. Being exact with potency for a homeopathic remedies is as important as anything else dispensed at a pharmacy.

The potencies
The remedies are diluted (and dynamisized) with either lactose (by grinding - trituration) or water and alcohol (by shaking - succession).

X = Decimal potency (dilutions of 1 to 10) (Can be represented as D potency in Europe.)
C-= Centesimal potency (dilutions of 1 to 100) (Can be represented as DK and CH potencies in Europe.)
M = Millesimal potency (dilutions of 1 to 1,000)
CM = Millesimal potency (dilution of 50 to 1,000)
LM = 50 Millesimal potency (dilution 1 to 50,000 w/ 100 successions) (Can be represented as Q potency in Europe.)

The number before the letter tells how many times this dilution was applied and the remedy ground or shaken.

A 6X potency means that a remedy was diluted 1 to 10 and then ground or shaken 6 times.
A 6C means that the remedy was diluted 1 to 100 and then ground or shaken 6 times.

Tissue Salts
Not actual "salt", the twelve mineral electrolytes are found in the body where they act to help normalize tissue processes and restore metabolic function on the cellular level.

Although the salts are not considered homeopathic, they are lightly "dynamized" and diluted like homeopathic remedies.

Also called "cell" salts, "biochemic" (chemistry of life) salts and "Schussler" salts, after chemist Dr Schussler who developed them.

Unless specified differently tissue salts are commonly dispensed in a 6X potency (see above under potency) The salts only come in a "X" potency, otherwise at the higher potencies they become, through dynamic dilution, a homeopathic remedy.

Tissue salts do not come in a blue tube.

Homeopathic remedies

Homeopathy is a scientific methodology for healing the "whole person (mind-body) that has its hypothesis in the works of Hippocrates, Parcelsus and other healers who recognized that a substance that produces symptoms in a healthy person, if diluted through a specific process, can cure those same symptoms or that "like cures like."

Homeopathic remedies are primarily made from natural substances, such as salt and flowers that have been so diluted that there is no longer any gross material left in the remedy. What is left is the energetic blueprint of the substance. Because of this dilution, homeopathy is especially well suited to highly sensitive people.

Through understanding an individual's clinical picture or "totality" the homeopath can match this individual picture with the therapeutic remedy picture.

* Each homeopathic remedy pill is 1 dry dose (or for making medicinal water solution.)
* Avoid touching the remedy. (The remedy can be transmitted by dermal contact.) A pill can be shaken into a cap then dropped under the tongue or into a bottle/glass. If any pills spill out dispose of them.
* Store remedies out of direct light and away from strong odors and heat.
* Possible antidotes: coffee, electric blankets, meds, dentistry, recreational drugs, strong odors.

Homeopathic remedies and tissue salts have no drug interactions with prescription drugs and do not interfere with the action of prescription drugs.

Remedies are FDA approved, prepared in FDA inspected sterile facilities, and listed in the HPUS, (the homeopathic equivalent of the USP.)

For further information please visit the websites:
The Homœopathic Pharmacopœia of the United States - http://www.hpus.com/
Links to homeopathic studies
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Lynn Cremona wrote:

Re: pharmacy handout

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:24 pm
by Tanya Marquette
lynn
what is the pharmacy you talk about?
are you in the new york area?
tanya

Re: pharmacy handout

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:30 pm
by LynnP
Yes, Bigaloes in Greenwich Village & while they do not make that many mistakes... they do... enough.
And they are very knowledgable but they have a regular turnover of pharm techs.
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Tanya Marquette" wrote:

Re: pharmacy handout

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:47 pm
by Tanya Marquette
Ah, yes. I know Bigalow's. I think they are too big for their capabilities and so make
mistakes. They have been around so long that they

Re: pharmacy handout

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:08 pm
by Tanya Marquette
competed post below:

Re: pharmacy handout

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:03 pm
by d_rona2000
Hello Lynn,
Tried to send you an offlist email with attachment but the email would not go through. Please let me know an email address.
Donna
D C Rona, PhD, ND, DHM

Re: pharmacy handout

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:34 pm
by Soroush Ebrahimi
Dear Lynn
Please consider that you may need to make some changes:

X = Decimal potency (dilutions of 1 to 10) (Can be represented as D potency in Europe.) CORRECT

C-= Centesimal potency (dilutions of 1 to 100) (Can be represented as DK and CH potencies in Europe.) CORRECT

M = Millesimal potency (dilutions of 1 to 1,000)
INCORRECT. M potency means that the C dilution (ie 1/100) has been carried out 1000 times)

CM = Millesimal potency (dilution of 50 to 1,000)
INCORRECT. CM means that C potency has been carried out 100,000 times
Also there is MM which is C carried out 1000,000 times
The normal series is Tincture, 3C, 6C, 12C, 18C, 30C, 200C, 1M, 10M, 50M, CM, MM
LM = 50 Millesimal potency (dilution 1 to 50,000 w/ 100 successions) (Can be represented as Q potency in Europe.) CORRECT

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You had also written
The number before the letter tells how many times this dilution was applied and the remedy ground or shaken.

A 6X potency means that a remedy was diluted 1 to 10 and then ground or shaken 6 times.
No - it means that it was serially diluted 1:10 six times. The number of succussions is not stated.

A 6C means that the remedy was diluted 1 to 100 and then ground or shaken 6 times.
No - it means that it was serially diluted 1:100 six times. The number of succussions is not stated.
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Heat also destroys homeopathic remedies.
Please double check
Rgds
Soroush
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Subject: [Minutus] Re: pharmacy handout
Thanks for responding Lynn.
I do not want to deal w/this by sending my pts to a diff pharmacy. Everyone should be able to go to their neighborhood pharmacy and buy a rem with as much ease as buying any product.

That my pharmacy, which is a very good pharmacy, can dispense hom & salts incorrectly – repeatedly - means that this is going on in many pharmacies.

The last pt that was given the wrong potency, took the tissue salt before realizing that it was in the wrong potency. He called me very frightened. "Am I going to die!?"

This man, who wasn't feeling well, had to come back into Manhattan to get the correct potency. (The pharmacy exchanged the already opened bottle for the new one w/o charge and is giving him %20 off of his next order.)

It is the oldest pharmacy in the US and has had a respected reputation for a very long time.

I think it will be helpful to have an information sheet to give to the pharmacy and to be able to give it to my pts to give to the pharmacy that they use if different- so I started working on one.
Below is my beginning draft.

If anyone has the time and inclination please check for accuracy and clarity and if anything should be included that is not or something should be left out.

I don't think it should be more than one sheet of paper, front & back.

Also does anyone know of any great current links to add at the bottom for further info?
Thanks again,
Lynn P

Homeopathy and Tissue Salts for the Dispensing Pharmacist

Remedies act differently in different potencies. Being exact with potency for a homeopathic remedies is as important as anything else dispensed at a pharmacy.

The potencies
The remedies are diluted (and dynamisized) with either lactose (by grinding - trituration) or water and alcohol (by shaking - succession).

X = Decimal potency (dilutions of 1 to 10) (Can be represented as D potency in Europe.)
C-= Centesimal potency (dilutions of 1 to 100) (Can be represented as DK and CH potencies in Europe.)
M = Millesimal potency (dilutions of 1 to 1,000)
CM = Millesimal potency (dilution of 50 to 1,000)
LM = 50 Millesimal potency (dilution 1 to 50,000 w/ 100 successions) (Can be represented as Q potency in Europe.)

The number before the letter tells how many times this dilution was applied and the remedy ground or shaken.

A 6X potency means that a remedy was diluted 1 to 10 and then ground or shaken 6 times.
A 6C means that the remedy was diluted 1 to 100 and then ground or shaken 6 times.

Tissue Salts
Not actual "salt", the twelve mineral electrolytes are found in the body where they act to help normalize tissue processes and restore metabolic function on the cellular level.

Although the salts are not considered homeopathic, they are lightly "dynamized" and diluted like homeopathic remedies.

Also called "cell" salts, "biochemic" (chemistry of life) salts and "Schussler" salts, after chemist Dr Schussler who developed them.

Unless specified differently tissue salts are commonly dispensed in a 6X potency (see above under potency) The salts only come in a "X" potency, otherwise at the higher potencies they become, through dynamic dilution, a homeopathic remedy.

Tissue salts do not come in a blue tube.

Homeopathic remedies

Homeopathy is a scientific methodology for healing the "whole person (mind-body) that has its hypothesis in the works of Hippocrates, Parcelsus and other healers who recognized that a substance that produces symptoms in a healthy person, if diluted through a specific process, can cure those same symptoms or that "like cures like."

Homeopathic remedies are primarily made from natural substances, such as salt and flowers that have been so diluted that there is no longer any gross material left in the remedy. What is left is the energetic blueprint of the substance. Because of this dilution, homeopathy is especially well suited to highly sensitive people.

Through understanding an individual's clinical picture or "totality" the homeopath can match this individual picture with the therapeutic remedy picture.

* Each homeopathic remedy pill is 1 dry dose (or for making medicinal water solution.)
* Avoid touching the remedy. (The remedy can be transmitted by dermal contact.) A pill can be shaken into a cap then dropped under the tongue or into a bottle/glass. If any pills spill out dispose of them.
* Store remedies out of direct light and away from strong odors and heat.
* Possible antidotes: coffee, electric blankets, meds, dentistry, recreational drugs, strong odors.

Homeopathic remedies and tissue salts have no drug interactions with prescription drugs and do not interfere with the action of prescription drugs.

Remedies are FDA approved, prepared in FDA inspected sterile facilities, and listed in the HPUS, (the homeopathic equivalent of the USP.)

For further information please visit the websites:
The Homœopathic Pharmacopœia of the United States - http://www.hpus.com/
Links to homeopathic studies

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com , Lynn Cremona wrote: