Re: Question about 5th/6th edition dosing was Lousy Homeopaths
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:33 pm
Here are some of my thoughts on the whole thing ...................
Of course dry potencies work sometimes - depends on choosing the exact right potency and the person not being over sensitive. But what happens when you want to repeat the remedy?
Hahnemann recommended not repeating the same potency twice and only way to do that with dry is start with 30c, go to 200c, go to 1M and go to 10M and then what do you do and that potency may be way too high for some. By using remedies in water you can fine tune more and also aggravations will be way less or of shorter duration.
So many homeopaths were only taught dry dosing and this has to do with many factors.
1. The 6th edition of Organon didn't get into hands of homeopaths after Hahnemann died in 1800s
2. All the homeopaths at that time were following primarily the 4th edition in late 1800s
3. All the teachers of the early 20th century were taught by those homeopaths
4. Homeopathy pretty much died out in the US and when revived still taught by homeopaths who only learned 4th edition.
5. Homeopaths kind of set in their ways as most people are think dry is fine (but they aren't acknowledging the aggravations people have; or no results and they don't come back because remedy was right but potency was wrong). It isn't best for the patient as too much time has to go by before remedy is changed if not right. Too many aggravations. Too many non-results. Dr. Luc de Schepper and David Little teach this - they are the main homeopaths teaching this method (and of course their students).
Some homeopaths have started using LM potencies which are in water, which helps, but most aren't using them according to Hahnemann's instructions in his 6th edition of Organon. And very few homeopaths ever use C or X potencies in water which Hahnemann did toward also the end of his life (5th edition)
And as David Little says in his posting on Aphorisms 246, 247 & 248, in the past:
"It is very difficult to learn how to use the LM potency properly just by reading the 6th Organon. There was supposed to be a living lineage of teachers that could clarify the points and add oral teachings that are not contained in the 6th edition. Hahnemann was teaching Boenninghausen about the LM method when he died. Melanie Hahnemann asked Boenninghausen not to speak about the new methods in pubic until after she published the 6th Organon. Unfortunately, this task was not accomplished before the Baron and Melannie passed away. By the time the 6th edition was published in 1920 all those with personal knowledge of the LM potency had died. This makes it extremely difficult to put the entire LM method into perspective without studying the Paris casebooks, the testimony of those with inside information, and the eyewitness accounts of those who witnessed Hahnemann's practice between1838 to 1843."
We went a gentle cure and a faster cure and water potencies can do that. If an aggravation at the beginningn, with water potencies, it usually only lasts a few days. With dry potencies can last a long time or forever.
I saw problems with all the above and I kept studying and found water potencies and rarely use dry potencies at all (unless nothing else is possible).
Of course people have been cured with dry potencies but is it a gentle cure. Is it as fast as it can be? How many have not been helped - have given up because of how long it takes or severe aggravations?
Also homeopaths don't pay attention to the dose (the look at potency but not dose). Many think, because Kent said it, that 1 pillule = 10 pillules = 100 pillules and this is not true. 1 pillule or tablet in an amount of water is a dose.
To adjust for person's individual sensitivity with water potencies can adjust by:
1. selection of potency
2. number of tablets
3. amount of water diluted in a dilution bottle
4. amount of water dose from that bottle is further diluted in
5. number of succussions given to that dilution bottle before #4
With a dry pill you can only give the pill and hope and most homeopaths say it takes 3-6 weeks to know if it is working. That is not acceptable to me for my patients.
Just my thoughts
Sheri
Of course dry potencies work sometimes - depends on choosing the exact right potency and the person not being over sensitive. But what happens when you want to repeat the remedy?
Hahnemann recommended not repeating the same potency twice and only way to do that with dry is start with 30c, go to 200c, go to 1M and go to 10M and then what do you do and that potency may be way too high for some. By using remedies in water you can fine tune more and also aggravations will be way less or of shorter duration.
So many homeopaths were only taught dry dosing and this has to do with many factors.
1. The 6th edition of Organon didn't get into hands of homeopaths after Hahnemann died in 1800s
2. All the homeopaths at that time were following primarily the 4th edition in late 1800s
3. All the teachers of the early 20th century were taught by those homeopaths
4. Homeopathy pretty much died out in the US and when revived still taught by homeopaths who only learned 4th edition.
5. Homeopaths kind of set in their ways as most people are think dry is fine (but they aren't acknowledging the aggravations people have; or no results and they don't come back because remedy was right but potency was wrong). It isn't best for the patient as too much time has to go by before remedy is changed if not right. Too many aggravations. Too many non-results. Dr. Luc de Schepper and David Little teach this - they are the main homeopaths teaching this method (and of course their students).
Some homeopaths have started using LM potencies which are in water, which helps, but most aren't using them according to Hahnemann's instructions in his 6th edition of Organon. And very few homeopaths ever use C or X potencies in water which Hahnemann did toward also the end of his life (5th edition)
And as David Little says in his posting on Aphorisms 246, 247 & 248, in the past:
"It is very difficult to learn how to use the LM potency properly just by reading the 6th Organon. There was supposed to be a living lineage of teachers that could clarify the points and add oral teachings that are not contained in the 6th edition. Hahnemann was teaching Boenninghausen about the LM method when he died. Melanie Hahnemann asked Boenninghausen not to speak about the new methods in pubic until after she published the 6th Organon. Unfortunately, this task was not accomplished before the Baron and Melannie passed away. By the time the 6th edition was published in 1920 all those with personal knowledge of the LM potency had died. This makes it extremely difficult to put the entire LM method into perspective without studying the Paris casebooks, the testimony of those with inside information, and the eyewitness accounts of those who witnessed Hahnemann's practice between1838 to 1843."
We went a gentle cure and a faster cure and water potencies can do that. If an aggravation at the beginningn, with water potencies, it usually only lasts a few days. With dry potencies can last a long time or forever.
I saw problems with all the above and I kept studying and found water potencies and rarely use dry potencies at all (unless nothing else is possible).
Of course people have been cured with dry potencies but is it a gentle cure. Is it as fast as it can be? How many have not been helped - have given up because of how long it takes or severe aggravations?
Also homeopaths don't pay attention to the dose (the look at potency but not dose). Many think, because Kent said it, that 1 pillule = 10 pillules = 100 pillules and this is not true. 1 pillule or tablet in an amount of water is a dose.
To adjust for person's individual sensitivity with water potencies can adjust by:
1. selection of potency
2. number of tablets
3. amount of water diluted in a dilution bottle
4. amount of water dose from that bottle is further diluted in
5. number of succussions given to that dilution bottle before #4
With a dry pill you can only give the pill and hope and most homeopaths say it takes 3-6 weeks to know if it is working. That is not acceptable to me for my patients.
Just my thoughts
Sheri
) , and how nice for you--when *you* are treating my son or husband or cat or cow, if you want to use LMs, go for it. But I don't think either you or they would be happy at the process.
Length of time is not the issue, and aggravations have not been an issue. (And recall that my "patients" are friends and family, so they always let me know how things go! Good news/bad news...)