can homeopathy deal with engineered viruses?

[Ananda Ruchira]

Hi all,

there's a lot of news circulating about the Swine Flu being a laboratory gene-enineered virus. Some of those articles also bring up the old allegations that HIV is also an engineered product of big Pharma etc.

Well, on one hand I don't know what to think about that. True or Hype?

The apparent fact that HIV can't be cured - no matter what medicines, the virus(?) remains and will flare up again if treatment(s) don't continue.

So my question is: can homeopathy cure engineered diseases?

Until now, we have based our medicine on Natural diseases and work within the Natural laws. If an engineered virus is designed to work against nature - what can natural medicine do?
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[Liz Brynin]

But surely everything in this world can only work within the boundaries of the natural world - there is no other way. We can engineer things (GM foods; vaccines; super-viruses etc) but we still have to use the chemical building blocks that exist on earth.
So likewise, a remedy will exist - or can be made - that will help treat anything. We just haven't sen what's needed yet - but that's a different story.
Perhaps you might like to look at the work of Peter Chappell, who is working with very different remedies in Africa, and apparently treating AIDS very successfully. And yes - maybe it's not homeopathy as we know it, but I don't know enough to say if he's basing it on 'Like cures like' or not.
Liz

[Carol Smyth]

I have no idea about whether HIV is created or not, but I did see on the WHO site that there is currently an HIV vaccine in development.

Carol

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

The problem with conventional medicine is that it tries to fight micro organisms.
This is a futile action in the long term as in less than 80 years since the development of the first antibiotic, we have antibiotic resistant bacteria.
By their shear numbers and rapid regeneration, they can adapt to the conditions faster than we can.
Also they have been on the Earth far longer than we have!
Homeopathy on the other hand treats by symptom similarity. That is the secret of its success.
So as long as we have a set of symptoms, there is hopefully a remedy that is a close match.
So the disease agent and its source is not relevant - the symptoms it creates are.
Best wishes
Soroush

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I have no idea about whether HIV is created or not, but I did see on the WHO site that there is currently an HIV vaccine in development.

Carol

[Ananda Ruchira]

Hi Liz,

thanks for the insight.

But.... what if....

if the viruses are designed (intentially or unintentially) to lodge themselves into the cell structure somehow (now I sound like a sci-fi thriller, but nowadays may not be so farfetched).......????????
PS I'm aware of PC's rx's. They treat but don't cure (as does many other homeo & alt meds)
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[Tanya Marquette]

my thinking is going to the concept of epigenetics for a possible
solution. if trauma can lay down new dna structure and homeopathy
deals with this trauma miasmatically, then this seems to suggest that
a miasmatic type remedy will be needed. however, we may not have
that remedy on hand yet. do to this engineered virus, will we need to
create a new miasm with remedies?
as for didi's sci-fi reference: well yes, most science fiction is based on
reality. some writer's were great visionaries or had deep philosophical
and political insight into the world we live in. thus, their writings describe
reality or do a great job of predicting what is to come. even comic books
have been successful. remember the archie comics with their future looking
clothes and cars? within about 15-20 years of these comics we saw those
very designs created in the popular culture and space crafts soaring the
universe.
as for hiv and flu viruses: we have numerous documents available to us
that spell out the manufacturing of these bioweapons. we know where
some of the labs are located and we have the evidence of the disasters
that occur when new germs are released/let escape into local surrounding
areas.
tanya
tanya

[Elizabeth Brandegee]

If they lodge themselves in there, we have remedies that suppurate foreign objects as you know. Good point as Soroush mentioned, it's the symptoms that concern us in finding the match, then it will be managed energetically & physically no matter what the disease agent. Assistance outside homeopathy is wise as well, as there are other natural tools complimentary in these situations.
Liz
Posted by: "Ananda Ruchira" abhalight@gmail.com anandaruchira
Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:25 am (PDT)
Hi Liz,

thanks for the insight.

But.... what if....

if the viruses are designed (intentially or unintentially) to
lodge themselves into the cell structure somehow (now I sound
like a sci-fi thriller, but nowadays may not be so
farfetched). ......??? ?????
PS I'm aware of PC's rx's. They treat but don't cure (as does
many other homeo & alt meds

[Liz Brynin]

Hi Ananda
Well, I guess it's no different from some of the viruses we already have - for example, HPV, or HSV, which are capable of getting into the genes and causing inherited problems. I think viruses have always had that capability (in some cases) but now we can manipulate them to cause exactly the kind of chronic problems that we want.
What do you think? Have you looked at the Minutus website (I'm sure you have) and the Repertorium Virosum? It's fascinating stuff.
Liz

[Ananda Ruchira]

HI all,

Nice to hear others on this subject.

Liz wrote:
True. But before human intervention, everything around us was "natural" and biodegradable. Its humans that produced substances (in vast unnatural quantities) that will take centuries to return to a natural state - eg - plastics, nuclear waste, radio waves, etc. .... .... and now bioweapon disease???

with this in mind, I'm baffled by HIV - we can treat, but -as yet- not cure. the virus remains lodged in the body. Its possible to get a patient to zero-virus in testing, but if the patient leaves treatment, the virus will bounce back. I'm baffled by the multi-disease nature of HIV. Untreated HIV can produce multiple diseases in the same body. Pneumonia + TB, Skin lesions + kaposi's + warts, etc.

This is perhaps because (untreated) it utterly destroys the immune system.
And that our Natural laws of healing are based on diseases occuring naturally with an intact immune system.

There are few or no infectious diseases occuring that destroy the immune system as HIV does. If there are any that do, they quickly self-destruct since they would progress quickly and therefore have little chance of spreading widely. (???right?? eg Ebola outbrakes don't spread far because the victims have little time or chance to interact with others beyond their village before they die)

The contributors of this subject have given good insights. Perhaps our homeopath-researchers should take into consideration that these man-made bioweapons need a different kind of approach to find the right medicines.
Sincerely,
Didi Ananda Ruchira
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[Sheri Nakken]

there are people with AIDS symptoms and not HIV positive
there are people HIV positive who never get AIDS symtpoms
I would suggest as I have before that there is no proof HIV causes AIDS
We really don't have good information or knowledge about viruses for many reasons, mostly because so much money is made off of them being touted as they are - as invasive and bad.
http://www.wellwithin1.com/AIDS.htm

I'm sure it is very frustrating where you are and dealing with people with this diagnosis which can be for many reasons having to do with the immune system.

Sheri
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